Debate

[newmoon]

Hi, I'm currently working on willfully having an OBE.  I have spontaneously done it many times as in without thinking or trying and then boom I'm just there.  And I can do what I consider remote viewing.  The difference to me seems to be that when I remote view I'm aware of my body and it's more like looking in a window or watching a movie without the frame, and there's minimal interaction.  But for instance one time I wanted my boyfriend to know I was visiting him, he was just working and unaware at first of my presence, so I sent him my scent (he really like my perfume) and the next day when we met, he asked if I had 'eagle flighted' to see him at the exact time I remote viewed him. So obviously it worked.  My spontaneous OBEs are much more physically there and interactive-vivid, seemingly more solid, as if I were actually there physically-just with some extra powers ie flying, being in different planes etc.

So as I said I've been working on trying to have OBEs at will.  I was talking with a friend who says remote viewing is just an OBE at a lower form and if I keep remote viewing I can change that into an OBE.  But it seems like a very different process to me. With that I just go into my head, sometimes I'm not sure if I'm imagining or not until someone confirms it later.  When I try to OBE by relaxing I get the buzz and feel lighter like I've expanded and am floating or something, but then what?  The rope trick and rolling/pushing out don't seem to work.  I can't seem to pull myself out or just float up.  I'm really not afraid and I know I can do it, but just can't figure out how.  Any suggestions?

[missym]

Well, for starters,
Robert Bruce talks about Remote Viewing in his book Astral dynamics, and according to him, when you have a remote viewing it is a very weak version of the projected double of yourself at that place, while your physical self is still (barely) awake.
Because you're physical self is still awake, it can not generate enough energy to keep the projected double of you 'there', which is why Remote Viewings don't last very long and are not completely controlled, and why you can still control your physical body while experiencing a RV
I don't believe it's possible to turn a RV into an actual OBE, because your physical body is still awake. You need to be in a "mind awake + body asleep" state to have an OBE or AP.

The method that personal reality suggested is to let yourself get into a sleep-like position at a time/place you could sleep. Don't try any methods, just let it happen naturally. Act like your trying to sleep, and when random images start to appear, stop them and focus on the ringing in your ears. Keep yourself just on the verge of sleep. After the vibrations, and after you pop out of your body, THEN do the rope technique or roll-out method.

good luck!