Has anyone had access to the astral realm. just by closing their eyes.....

[Annika]

I feel like I can see myself when i close my eyes, in rainbow/white colors.

You know.....I've never tried to look at myself when I close my eyes because there are so many other interesting things to look at, but I may have to give that a try. I mean, seeing yourself in rainbow/white colors has to be pretty cool......thanks!

[mon9999]

HI Annika! I advice you to consult a psychic, I mean a true psychic careful from the fraud one

[NoY]

I have experienced this from the age of 20
its a result of clear audio this comes from the heart and your mind makes a cosmetic to represent the emotions you are feeling
and its incredibly accurate
however most beings will look more attractive to you than they actually are because your using love to perceive them

have you ever seen a picture of arch angel Michael with one foot on land and another in the water its like that a being of both reality's

over time you will learn to hear them as well and then you wont be able to shut them up

:NodesOfYesod:

[Annika]

HI Annika! I advice you to consult a psychic, I mean a true psychic careful from the fraud one

I'm a little leery of psychics....some, I'm sure work from the heart and their true abilities, but some seem to be more interested in fiduciary gain, but I'll consider it and thank you for your advise!

[Annika]

I have experienced this from the age of 20
its a result of clear audio this comes from the heart and your mind makes a cosmetic to represent the emotions you are feeling
and its incredibly accurate
however most beings will look more attractive to you than they actually are because your using love to perceive them

have you ever seen a picture of arch angel Michael with one foot on land and another in the water its like that a being of both reality's

over time you will learn to hear them as well and then you wont be able to shut them up

:NodesOfYesod:

Very interesting....are you viewing the astral realm and how do you know it's the astral???
Thank you for your response.....

[NoY]

clear audio transends all levels of the astral real time zone and all time
all paralels everything

what ever you sympathetically resonate with

I have adventures over all existence and at all levels
its a joy to finally see somebody else who may be similar

:NoY:

[Annika]

clear audio transends all levels of the astral real time zone and all time
all paralels everything

what ever you sympathetically resonate with

I have adventures over all existence and at all levels
its a joy to finally see somebody else who may be similar

:NoY:

Hi Noy....
I"ve been away for a few days and wanted to ask you how your ability came about? I was interested in Ascension and as soon as I verbalized the statement, all sorts of strange things began to happen. I don't know if my ability was always there and I just didn't realize it or if it came about because of my intention for ascension. It's nice to know that someone else has had my experience....I really felt that this was true as well! Anyway, I 'd love to know more about your experiences.....? Hopefully you'll read this....
Take care...

[NoY]

The human energybody/system usually matures around the age of 20

when i turned 20 I was suddenly hit with a wall of hatred and I started having visions and dreams and uncomfortable experiences all through the day

because I could not run from it I decided to start sorting it out. if  i saw something I didn't like id fix it If I disagreed with something id argue the point and if somebody needed backup id be there. once I had taken the position of holy king always truthfull always trying to get it right from a moral perspective, the spirit started to use me and sent me all over life and over time to fix problems and correct things that needed attention.

I have had many adventures in other kingdoms because I became usefull to the spirit. by choosing to be good
all of life asks for good so its possible to be drawn to the other side of existence if your what they are asking for

:NoY:

[astralization]

Annika, your ability to see another realm when you close your eyes is incredible, only I wish I could do that or at least Astral Project. I feel like I need some guidance, I try to look for my higher self but I can never seem to reach him. If anyone is willing to help me develop my abilities, then please contact me.

[Xanth]

Annika, your ability to see another realm when you close your eyes is incredible, only I wish I could do that or at least Astral Project. I feel like I need some guidance, I try to look for my higher self but I can never seem to reach him. If anyone is willing to help me develop my abilities, then please contact me.

If you desire help, you only have to go as far as posting a question here on the forums. 

Find the appropriate section and ask away!

[Annika]

Annika, your ability to see another realm when you close your eyes is incredible, only I wish I could do that or at least Astral Project. I feel like I need some guidance, I try to look for my higher self but I can never seem to reach him. If anyone is willing to help me develop my abilities, then please contact me.

Hi Astralization:
Yes, it is a cool ability, but I'm not sure how I got it, so I'm not sure if I can be of much assistance to you! I had only done astral projection one other time about 10 years ago and it wasn't intentional, but I knew what it was from the "get-go"! How this ability to see into the astral realm came about, just by closing my eyes,  is still unclear to me! However, there are some incredibly knowledgeable people on this site, who would be able to give you help regarding anything "astral"! My higher self occasionally speaks to me, but not often......I get the impression from my higher self that "I'm" supposed to figure a lot of this out on my own, but realistically, I could use assistance regularly!   

Take care

[Xanth]

Hi Astralization:
Yes, it is a cool ability, but I'm not sure how I got it, so I'm not sure if I can be of much assistance to you! I had only done astral projection one other time about 10 years ago and it wasn't intentional, but I knew what it was from the "get-go"! How this ability to see into the astral realm came about, just by closing my eyes,  is still unclear to me! However, there are some incredibly knowledgeable people on this site, who would be able to give you help regarding anything "astral"! My higher self occasionally speaks to me, but not often......I get the impression from my higher self that "I'm" supposed to figure a lot of this out on my own, but realistically, I could use assistance regularly!   

Take care

Hi Annika. 

Have you tried closing all off all thoughts and emotions as you view these 'scenes'?  What I mean is view what you're viewing but with a passive awareness of sorts?
The reason I ask is that those thoughts and emotions might be fueling what you're seeing... just as thoughts and emotions fuel what we perceive on the astral.

[Annika]

Hi Annika. 

Have you tried closing all off all thoughts and emotions as you view these 'scenes'?  What I mean is view what you're viewing but with a passive awareness of sorts?
The reason I ask is that those thoughts and emotions might be fueling what you're seeing... just as thoughts and emotions fuel what we perceive on the astral.

Hi Xanth....
Interesting question.....when this experience first began, I had a lot of fear and intrepidation, of course initially, I could only feel someone touching me, then after that, being able to "see" them with my eyes closed......not truly understanding what was happening and why! After about a month of being able to see them with my eyes closed, I figured out that there was a reason for this to happen and then, I calmed down and I was able to calm my emotions and thoughts down as well. As strange as this may sound, I think these beings know me.....maybe from another life time....I don't know! They are the same beings each time, except occasionally a new one will show up. I "know" that they are trying to tell me something, because when I ask them who they are, they mouth it back to me, as if to say 'we hear you"!
My thoughts and emotions these days are calm and tranquil for the most part and these beings are a part of my life! I hope that answers your question!

[personalreality]

I know I'm a little late on this one, but I disagree with some of the other people's dimensional theory in regards to seeing into other realms...here's a picture to illustrate.



I don't think the etheric is the closest to the physical.  I think that what is described as the etheric is really the next "physical" dimension above ours.  It's still all about perspective, scale and position. 

[Annika]

I know I'm a little late on this one, but I disagree with some of the other people's dimensional theory in regards to seeing into other realms...here's a picture to illustrate.



I don't think the etheric is the closest to the physical.  I think that what is described as the etheric is really the next "physical" dimension above ours.  It's still all about perspective, scale and position. 

Hi Personalreality...
So, do you think that I'm viewing another dimension or density? And if so, which am I seeing when I close my eyes? I would be extremely interested in your opinion?
Thanks for responding!

[personalreality]

Let me elaborate a little on my picture.

Firstly, that is a 2-D representation of something that is both interdimensional and extra dimensional.

In my paradigm, AP takes place in the imaginal realm, the truly non physical.  You might think of the imaginal realm as the source of all thought, more appropriately the source of all that we consider to be intangible energy.  I refrain from describing it as THE SOURCE or God because that energy encompasses all existence.  You might think of God in this paradigm as that which unifies the physical and the non.  So this non physical "place" is the source of psychic abilities, ideas & contemplations, spiritual energy, magickal action, etc.

Conversely, the physical dimensions (ours, 4th, 5th, etc) exist simultaneously in the same space but the matter vibrates at frequencies that increase relative to the dimension.  It is possible for we 3-D people to move up to higher dimensions provided we can properly increase our energetic frequency.  Its important to know that these dimensions are all physical relative to the indigenous beings.  If we were to raise our energy and move up a dimension we would experience as physical that which appears non-physical from our relative position in 3-D. 

Now, the transitions between dimensions isn't necessarily either or, its more like a gradient.  What this means in relation to projection is that sometimes when we are intending to go to the imaginal  realms we actually raise our energy enough to begin a transition to the 4-D.  I think that most of the time we probably don't go all the way and experience what is often referred to as the etheric or the real time zone.  This produces the effect of seeing what appears to be our physical world from a seemingly non-physical perspective. 

So what we call the etheric or rtz is really our perception of the frequency gradient between dimensions.  If this is the case then one might assume that there is a similar experience between all dimensions.

This explains the difference between remote viewing and clairvoyance.  Remote viewing is essentially projecting awareness into this transdimensional gradient to see a 3-D event from a distance.  Clairvoyance then is reading energy in the imginal realms that is associated with an object, thought form, being, etc. 

The imaginal realm is a collective that represents the energetic connections of all of existence.  Therefore you can connect to anyone or anything, time is irrelevant in this place, and read the energy.  This is why your psychic abilities are better if you can associate emotion with whatever you're trying to read because emotional/feeling (both the mental and physical sensations and actions) power is what moves energy.  So to use this in AP, if you want to visit a friend you'll be more successful if you can bring up an associated emotional energy than if you just think of their face.  This is how things are identified in the nonphysical, by their energy signature and the energy associated with them.

In your case it depends on what you see.  Either way its just a form of psychic sight.  If what you see looks a little odd or out of place its probably clairvoyant vision picking up your own energetic perception of where you find yourself.  If it looks like a real copy of physcial reality then it is probably remote viewing.

[Annika]

Let me elaborate a little on my picture.

Firstly, that is a 2-D representation of something that is both interdimensional and extra dimensional.

In my paradigm, AP takes place in the imaginal realm, the truly non physical.  You might think of the imaginal realm as the source of all thought, more appropriately the source of all that we consider to be intangible energy.  I refrain from describing it as THE SOURCE or God because that energy encompasses all existence.  You might think of God in this paradigm as that which unifies the physical and the non.  So this non physical "place" is the source of psychic abilities, ideas & contemplations, spiritual energy, magickal action, etc.

Conversely, the physical dimensions (ours, 4th, 5th, etc) exist simultaneously in the same space but the matter vibrates at frequencies that increase relative to the dimension.  It is possible for we 3-D people to move up to higher dimensions provided we can properly increase our energetic frequency.  Its important to know that these dimensions are all physical relative to the indigenous beings.  If we were to raise our energy and move up a dimension we would experience as physical that which appears non-physical from our relative position in 3-D. 

Now, the transitions between dimensions isn't necessarily either or, its more like a gradient.  What this means in relation to projection is that sometimes when we are intending to go to the imaginal  realms we actually raise our energy enough to begin a transition to the 4-D.  I think that most of the time we probably don't go all the way and experience what is often referred to as the etheric or the real time zone.  This produces the effect of seeing what appears to be our physical world from a seemingly non-physical perspective. 

So what we call the etheric or rtz is really our perception of the frequency gradient between dimensions.  If this is the case then one might assume that there is a similar experience between all dimensions.

This explains the difference between remote viewing and clairvoyance.  Remote viewing is essentially projecting awareness into this transdimensional gradient to see a 3-D event from a distance.  Clairvoyance then is reading energy in the imginal realms that is associated with an object, thought form, being, etc. 

The imaginal realm is a collective that represents the energetic connections of all of existence.  Therefore you can connect to anyone or anything, time is irrelevant in this place, and read the energy.  This is why your psychic abilities are better if you can associate emotion with whatever you're trying to read because emotional/feeling (both the mental and physical sensations and actions) power is what moves energy.  So to use this in AP, if you want to visit a friend you'll be more successful if you can bring up an associated emotional energy than if you just think of their face.  This is how things are identified in the nonphysical, by their energy signature and the energy associated with them.

In your case it depends on what you see.  Either way its just a form of psychic sight.  If what you see looks a little odd or out of place its probably clairvoyant vision picking up your own energetic perception of where you find yourself.  If it looks like a real copy of physcial reality then it is probably remote viewing.

Hi again....personalreality!
My first words after reading your response was "WOW"! And maybe this correlates to what the beings are trying to tell me. As you maybe aware from reading my previous posts on this....I have limitations in communicating with these beings, but before I could see them with my eyes closed, they were working feverishly on raising my frequency! I mean, I had already started the work by changing parts of myself that were "not so great" and began seriously meditating, but they seemed really intent upon my frequency being raised.....the vibrations that I felt in my body constantly were just incredibly intense!
It was after that period, that I could see them with my eyes closed! I thought at first that the beings wanted to instill some peace & calm in me, because they sensed that I was fearful of what was touching me because I had no sight reference....they were right! They knew me "well" from the beginning!
I think now that it was a two-fold purpose.....certainly to calm me down, but I have an extremely strong feeling that they are trying to communicate something to me or just communicate in general.
It would make sense that if I were perceiving another dimension or even partially entering it, that the beings would be able to touch me, but I can't touch them! My sight into their world is somewhat perplexing to me....it seems much darker than 3D is.....as if the light value has incredibly decreased! I've asked them why it is that I can see them when my eyes are closed and I think the answer is either way beyond a yes or no response or I already know the answer and I just have to figure out what it is!
If you have any other insights into this experience that I'm undergoing, I would be most appreciative of hearing them or if there is written material that you could direct me to....again, I would be most appreciative!!
Thank you......

[personalreality]

Let me first respond by clarifying that this is just my theory based on subjective experience and years of philosophical, ontological and metaphysical research.  But as far as I'm concerned it is as right as I can possibly be at this moment in my existence (where my attention is focused now).  And it may sound cocky or pretentious but part of my reality paradigm states that there is no such thing as objectivity.  I think objectivity in almost any sense is wasteful and unnecessary.  We are all perceiving reality from infinitely unique perceptions, infinitely unique scales and positions.  We are all seeing a different facet of the jewel.  Which, incidentally, is also my personal "proof" of "god", but unfortunately because of the nature of the "Rusty (my name...since it's also an adjective I thought I'd specify) Paradigm of Reality" it is impossible for any other person to perceive "my proof". 

Anyway, I have not read your other posts, I will look into it.  But I do have some positions on your situation.

First, let's do some magick!  Magick (in the Rusty Paradigm of Reality, a.k.a. personalreality)  is the manipulation of "astral" energy by means of physical action.  I also define magick within the Arthur C. Clarke third law that states, "any sufficiently advanced technology appears as magic."  So magick as is practiced by occultists (people who study things hidden) is simply a a technological understanding of energetic principles.  While scientists were studying matter, magick practitioners were studying nonphysical energy manipulation.  The two are really one in the same, just from different perspectives.  Both utilize the personal creative power of humans.  [Though it seems that there is a large schism between to two when they ought to be unified, I believe both could progress much further if they were combined.....perhaps in some sort of "mind based technology"  ] 

So, why does that matter?  Well, by moving into perception of the nonphysical realms you are essentially practicing magick, though weakly.  This is why energy work is important, it increases the available supply of energy thereby allowing you to more easily manipulate these imaginal realms.  Here's where things can get tough though.  We, as 3-D beings, born of the 3rd dimension (physically speaking), developed and evolved in the 3rd dimension, perceive reality as 3-D beings.  What this means is that we can't really comprehend the fundamentals of either the imaginal or other physical dimensions naturally.  (we can, but we're out of practice, our muscles of perception have atrophied)  For example, perceive a hyper-cube (a 4th dimensional cube) right now.  We can draw what it ought to look like on paper, but that's not perceiving what it really is.  Our brains just aren't wired to handle that yet.  The same can be said of the imaginal realms.  There perception is based on the sensation of nonphysical/spiritual energy as opposed to sensation of thermodynamic, photon, chemical, etc.  All things move according to the energy signature they emit in this imaginal realm.  This is where the benefit of meditation comes in.  By meditating regularly you gain control of your ability to produce specific mental action in a give situation.  If we apply that to magickal practice for example, that means that we have the control to generate a specific sense memory and associated emotional response of a specific energetic signature.  With this skill we can more accurately and powerfully manipulate the movement of energy.  The more skilled you become the easier it becomes for you to effect change in our physical reality. 

I don't know how well it is illustrated on my diagram, but I want to make sure I point out that Astral Projection or voyages into the imaginal realm is not a purely 3-D experience.  All beings, existing in any physical dimension are psychically connected through the "astral".  4-D beings astral project just as well as 3-D or 5-D beings, etc.  I won't really speculate on their projection abilities (ease, frequency, etc.), but I do want to say that in my paradigm everything can project into the imaginal.  Because of that I don't think you're interacting with 4-D beings in the dimensional gradient.  It would be much simpler for these beings (where ever they're from) to astral project and communicate with you there. 

As for the darker bit, you gotta remember that your brain is used to processing sensory stimuli from the 3rd dimension.  Hyperdimensional or extradimensional stimuli is not going to be the same.  It may take you time to adjust to perceiving these new stimuli.  Perhaps what you're seeing really is dark, maybe they created the environment for you from your mind.  Who knows.  Nevertheless, nonverbal communication in the astral means something very different than nonverbal communication in the physical.  It's basically telepathy, but telepathy isn't sending thoughts, it's sending whole perceptions and feelings.  That's what you need to practice to more easily communicate with them.

[Annika]

Hey Rusty....

Thank you for your perceptions and ideas......I'm trying to combine many different viewpoints to see how they correlate to my experiences and what can be useful as defining my reality as it exists now.

Take care.....

[personalreality]

That's all anyone can do.  My experience is essentially useless to you when it comes to your liberation.  The best you can do is try on different beliefs and see what your intuition says.  Eventually you'll find that when your view certain perspectives through your own perceptual filter they begin to feel right.

[Xanth]

I was thinking about this again the other day...
I was attempting to, somehow, fit it into Franks Phasing Model of Consciousness... and I came up with it.

Assuming that the "beings" you're seeing are "real"... then you're simply having a Focus 1 / Focus (2 or 3) overlay experience.

I was toying with this the other day while having a break at work.
I was sitting at my desk and just staring into the blackness behind my eyes.
Staring, staring, staring... hey is that a street?  ... hey, is that a building?
All the while staring into the blackness these forms started taking shape.  I'd try to focus in on them more... and I ended up losing it.

But in a sense this is what I believe you're doing, but you're tuning into something 'more' than just images.  You're tuning, literally, into another Focus of Consciousness.  Which I believe to be Focus 2 or 3.  

Focus 2 would be more your subconscious, so you wouldn't much response from anything you saw.
However, if it was Focus 3, you'd get actual responses and actions back.

I remember now doing this once before while I was meditating.
I was sitting there meditating then I decided to ask a simple question regarding my Animal Spirit.
I asked, "What animal is my animal spirit"... well, in the blackness behind my eyes, I saw, as clear as day, an Eagle soaring through the sky.  I saw it flapping it's wings and flying towards me, then swoop down and then up and out of my field of vision.

~Ryan

[Annika]

I was thinking about this again the other day...
I was attempting to, somehow, fit it into Franks Phasing Model of Consciousness... and I came up with it.

Assuming that the "beings" you're seeing are "real"... then you're simply having a Focus 1 / Focus (2 or 3) overlay experience.

I was toying with this the other day while having a break at work.
I was sitting at my desk and just staring into the blackness behind my eyes.
Staring, staring, staring... hey is that a street?  ... hey, is that a building?
All the while staring into the blackness these forms started taking shape.  I'd try to focus in on them more... and I ended up losing it.

But in a sense this is what I believe you're doing, but you're tuning into something 'more' than just images.  You're tuning, literally, into another Focus of Consciousness.  Which I believe to be Focus 2 or 3.  

Focus 2 would be more your subconscious, so you wouldn't much response from anything you saw.
However, if it was Focus 3, you'd get actual responses and actions back.

I remember now doing this once before while I was meditating.
I was sitting there meditating then I decided to ask a simple question regarding my Animal Spirit.
I asked, "What animal is my animal spirit"... well, in the blackness behind my eyes, I saw, as clear as day, an Eagle soaring through the sky.  I saw it flapping it's wings and flying towards me, then swoop down and then up and out of my field of vision.

~Ryan

Hi Ryan.....
I just read Franks Phasing Model of Consciousness and you might be onto something, because I'm definitely getting responses and not just images! Frank also states that Focus 3 occurs "after physical death" and I most definitely feel as if I'm still alive....so how does that factor in?
Thanks for your response!

[Xanth]

Focus 3 is simply what most people would refer to as "the afterlife".
You can still have a Focus 1 - Focus 3 overlay experience.
Hell, Frank mentioned that you can have a Focus 1 - Focus 4 overlay!  He referred to that as being pretty trippy.  LoL

~Ryan

[wakey]

When I was younger, when I closed my eyes, faces started to appear in the blackness. A lot of faces... At the beginning I was able to spot out eyes, then mouth and then the whole face. At first I was scared, but then i got use to them. Right now I don't see them anymore, I guess I just forgot about them and didn't pay any attention so in time they dissapeared.

With "when I was younger" I actually meant "2 years ago".

[Annika]

Focus 3 is simply what most people would refer to as "the afterlife".
You can still have a Focus 1 - Focus 3 overlay experience.
Hell, Frank mentioned that you can have a Focus 1 - Focus 4 overlay!  He referred to that as being pretty trippy.  LoL

~Ryan

Ok....if it is a Focus 3 overlay experience, how are these beings able to touch me? I can assure you that I'm not hallucinating the touching, as it's been going on for quite a while now. Just last night while I was laying in bed....couldn't sleep, one of the beings was patting me on the shoulder as if to comfort me! Right now, one of them has their hand on my shoulder??? And my eyes aren't closed......? Perplexing.....