What are reptilians and greys?

[mcdwg]

I don't know where to post this question, sorry if it's in the wrong place.
While reading posts here in the forum I have come across many mentions of reptilians and greys. What are these? Non-physical beings inhabiting the earth? Physical beings living underwater, underground?

[cpt. picard]

The Reptilians and Greys are theoretical "extra-terrestrials" that many people claim to have sighted. The Reptilians are either thought to come from the Draconian constellation, or are thought to have evolved on planet earth from the dinosaurs, and became technologically advanced before humans appeared and now reside in large underground bunkers. They are as the name implys, intelligent reptilian humanoids. The Reptilians are also thought to be capable of shapeshifting. Many conspiracy theorists believe the Reptilians to possess power over earth's affairs and also have power over the Greys. Many people belive the "illuminati" to either be reptilians who are holding the shape of a human, or to posess some reptilian DNA in their bloodlines. The Reptilians are usually described as primarily existing in a nonphysical dimension, but being capable of manifesting in this one. Other people say they exist on the physical and mental planes and lack an astral body (as they possess little emotion). They have been accused of meddling in the human races affairs throughout all of history.

The Greys are your typical looking alien, with grey skin a huge head, a slit for a mouth and huge black eyes. They are often the aliens reported by abductees. In my opinion they are a little more mysterious. Some believe they are aliens from the zeta-riticuli star system or constellation. Others think they may have evolved on earth like the reptilians, except from dolphin like creatures. And the other theory, which has been speculated on due to accounts of abductees having their sperm or eggs tooken, and then seeing "hybrid" grey-humans. This theory is that the Greys are us from the future. Due to genetic modification, they are unable to reproduce, so they have gone back in time to take DNA from natural humans. Others believe they are not biological at all, but merely the androids the reptilians or other aliens use to do their dirty work. It is usually agreed upon, that whatever the Greys are, they operate more on a hive mind as opposed to being individuals, but apparently there are some rogue greys who have cultivated the faculties for individualism. They are also said to be highly proficient astral travellers.

Anyways, its all just theories and tooken from other people's accounts, I just listed some of the common themes mentioned in alien encounters.

[zareste]

Don't take Picard too seriously. He's a few bricks short of a wall

Our galaxy has life all over the place, and humanoids are a common intelligent type. Some resemble reptiles, some look like greys, some look like us. When people say 'reptilians and greys' it's hard to tell who they're talking about because a lot of species can fit either description. What they're usually talking about are the interstellar organizations that are meddling with Earth.

All humanoids are physical in the same sense that you and I are, but some have ways of transcending our perceived reality. We would only see them during astral projections or in an altered state of mind. Some live above, some below, some among us. It's a rather broad subject

[cpt. picard]

Im a few bricks short of a wall? I stated common information about reptilians and greys, and made it clear that this is not factual nor did I say I even believe in these things. Then you come on and state some information you could not possibly prove or verify other than your own, or other peoples opinions, and you state it like its fact. You sir, are a few bricks short of a wall.

A few users such as Zareste and Kurtkurt42, try to say there are several species of greys or reptilians that are unrelated. I don't buy this, as it only demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of basic evolutuonary principles. Either way, I would be wary of people such as Zareste that claim to know facts and truth about these aliens, which we have no actual evidence that they even exist. I must say, I did not expect to be insulted for giving generic common information about these two races, and stated that it is all speculation.... Are you really this unaccepting of other people's opinions? Or are you just plain ignorant of what most of the literature regarding these two species says?

[Xanth]

All the good Captain was pointing out was that NONE of this has ever been proven to be true.
... although playing devil's advocate, it has also not been proven false either.

I prefer using Occam's Razor here though.

EDIT: Hmmm I think I put a double negative in there somewhere... but meh, you get my point.  LOL

[cpt. picard]

Apparently using Occam's Razor and the scientific method, as opposed to blind faith, means im a few bricks short of a wall 

[personalreality]

Does anybody like the ancient astronaut jazz?  Human/alien hybrids?  

What about people like Icke?  Does Icke say the same stuff as what Picard posted first?

[zareste]

Apparently using Occam's Razor and the scientific method, as opposed to blind faith, means im a few bricks short of a wall  

that's not the reason at all

on subject: Icke says a lot of things, but I think he's more driven by fame than fact, like it's all about name-branding to him. While some of his facts may be right-on, his speculations are too generalized and, frankly, racist

I think I've gotten wind of the ancient astronaut thing though. It wouldn't surprise me. A lot of ancient civilizations knew things like the Earth being round and the formation of planets and so forth. Some of them could have made contact with the outside and gotten the specifications for an anti-gravity craft.

[personalreality]

I don't know that I would say racist.

Anti-Zionism, definitely, but that's different.

I don't disagree though.

[Tiny]

I don't know where to post this question, sorry if it's in the wrong place.
While reading posts here in the forum I have come across many mentions of reptilians and greys. What are these? Non-physical beings inhabiting the earth? Physical beings living underwater, underground?

Dear mcdwg,

I will answer since you appear to be genuinely and unconditionally interested in the subject.


The Reptilians and Greys are essentially remnants of an ancient, huge space empire, known as the Anunnaki that once collapsed and dispersed and they are now stranded here on Earth trying to establish a miniature-version of their beloved empire known as the New World Order. They operate both in physical and astral (real-time) bodies from where they manipulate and tyrannize the inhabitants of Earth.
Many of their consciousnesses also temporarily take on human bodies in order to infiltrate and influence human societies from within. To These belong the kind of politicians that seem rather illogical and focused very tightly on an agenda.
The aliens in their alien bodies are housed not only in spaceships (that can also reside underwater) but huge underground and in-mountain installations. There also exist cloaked bases on land that are protected by holographic projectors that for example will create convincing images of monsters to anyone who would walk too close to them.


Evidence for the alien presence can also be found in thousands of years of history and eye-witness aswell as well documented abduction reports of the last 100-200 years. Some of these accounts have been proven genuine under hypnosis.
On a few occasions I've accidentally seen the Reptilians myself through clairvoyance but I do not recommend anyone contacting them telepathically on purpose.

The leading alien groups also battle among each other for power although the Reptilians and Greys have been observed by many as being allied.
However, alien UFO battles have been observed by third generation night vision goggles and their ships are cloaked with a technology whereby lightrays of the lower end spectrum are bent around the hull making them invisible for the eye.
Only in very few cases are their cloaking shields down.

The aliens rarely utilize weapon warfare against humans, mostly technological and telepathic mind-control programming.
They are actually very paranoid control freaks which means that they are also monitoring and trying to influence every corner of the internet and trying to ristrict it by law. China and Britain have already taken this step.
They have engineered this 'control grid' in society that everybody can feel to a bigger or lesser degree (groups, pol. parties, activities, belief systems etc. supported by the Aliens).
People who choose to not participate or do not fit in the control grid are usually mobbed, demonized or financially disadvantaged.
They have been chemically and social/intellectually dumbing down humans in many ways as to reduce any possible resistance to the NWO.
The religion of modern-age's darwinism is a recent example of such hopeless delusions imposed upon the human mind.


kind regards,

Paul

[cpt. picard]

Science is often used for political purposes in the modern day, but to say science itself is a religious fad shows a lack of understanding. Science as it should be does not include political agendas or biases. It is about coming up with a theory, and then trying to prove it wrong. If you cannot prove it wrong, but you can prove it true, then it is a fact or law, although keep in mind, that scientific laws are still THEORIES. Even Newton's Laws of Physics are only theories, as Einstein eventually proved that newtonian physics do not always apply (light speed for example). If you think science is nothing but a religion, then explain how your computer is working right now, explain how we can engineer a space craft? I'm not saying the scientific community can't be downright unreasonable, but thats usually because of some type of political agenda that those scientists arent even aware of, as I said, science in its pure form is one of the best ways to discern truth from theory from bovine excrement.

And while we are on the topic, I would rather be part of the new  fad religion science which has demonstrated its usefulness time and time again, as opposed to the old world religion of "blind faith" that many of you prefer. As for you Tiny, you know I have many similar beliefs about the NWO and related topics as you do, in my opinion, the whole characterisation of "science" and other intellectual subjects being "nerdy" or "uncool" is part of the media's way of dumbing down the population (along with fluoride, propaganda, chemtrails etc but thats off topic). The last thing the NWO wants, is its younger citizens growing up knowing how to think critically.

Anyways, yes, Im sure some of that information came from David Icke, but even I think he's a little coocoo. As for anti-zionism being racist? I think zionists wish it was racist so they stiffle criticism easier. I would also have to disagree that Darwinism is a religion, it has fossil, genetic, and even observed evidence (microorganism have been observed going through mutations that provide benefits to the organism). It is a fact that alleles change from generation to generation, evolution is a FACT, whats not a fact, is exactly how the alleles change and what causes the mutations (aliens maybe? ). Do you really think Darwinism is as delusional as Christianity, Islam or belief in Reptilians? You are all of course open to your opinions, I'm just letting you know that I disagree wholeheartedly.

[cpt. picard]

Anyways Zareste, do you mind explaining your opinion of me if its not for me personal beliefs?

[zareste]

it is personal beliefs. I find yours crazy, and your assertion that they're based on any sort of science is the reason people think science is some kind of religious lunacy

[cpt. picard]

Of which beliefs are you referring? You believe all science is complete bull? Seriously?? There's is no point in arguing with a fundamentalist like yourself. Science is science it dosen't define my beliefs, it does not require belief. You are the one associating all science which blatant skepticism or something, you have some problem with science as if its even one thing. Its a way of examining things. It cannot examine everything. It dosen't mean I'm an atheistic skeptic but it dosen't mean I'm the complete opposite either. But forget it, this forum is as hopeless as ever.

[CFTraveler]

Hi mcdwg.
To add to the info, some experiencers postulate that greys may be us in the future, and this is why they seem to believe (or they have said so to those experiencers) they have the right to mess with us (you know, abduction experiences, etc.).  I don't know if this has any grain of truth in it, but it sure seems compelling.

[personalreality]

Sorry

[Capt. Picard]

Your hypocrisy is downright amazing Personal Reality. You accuse me of being unaccepting of others beliefs? Why? Why because I state I trust science, though after explaining it, its clear my views on it are very similar to yours, but apparently you are too quick to judge that you would rather associate me with fundamental skepticism or something. If I seriously used science in every aspect of my life, I wouldn't believe in things such as astral travel which my only evidence is my experiences. Comparing how our observations effect realty with christianity? Im not sure where you are going with that, the observations you are referring to are wave-particle duality? Anyways, I recommend rereading my previous posts in this thread a little more carefully, you are seriously pretty much critising me and then practically agreeing with me in the same post. And you wonder why I think people on this forum are just plain stupid and ignorant. I should also point out that Zareste was the only one critising anyones beliefs, in fact, I'm not sure how you "intuitive" people think they learned my beliefs from this thread. I stated common alien info and made it clear that it is speculation. Zareste comes on, insults me and states a bunch of alien crap as if its fact. And Im the one who gets critized? Im sorry, but that's a bunch of crap. Anyways Im done, few people on this forum can seem to comprehend what Im saying.

[Tiny]

Welcome back, Capt. Are we gonna be cool this time?

[personalreality]

sorry

[Xanth]

Take it to PM's gentlemen.

[personalreality]

i did good sir

[Capt. Picard]

I was being as considerate as possible (example, not stating anything as fact), but it is you and zareste and others that are downright critical of anything I say. Then you get mad and accuse me of doing that to you when Im in fact trying to defend myself from your attacks. Seriously, re-read my posts and show me where I've done what you are saying. I am not being a "wanna-be elitist", I dont see how, I call you a hypocrit becuase youre mad that Im mad that you people dont accept me here when I try to accept other peoples opinions. Your postulations that science was created for the sole purpose of of "opposing spirituality" is completely ludicrous. Just because some scientists use it for that, does not mean that all science is purely there to oppose spirituality. Im sorry if there is something you people dislike about me, but this thread in particular just angrys me, if you would read my first post here you would understand that I was not deserving of the comments thrown at me, I did not state anything but other people's opinions on the repitlians and the greys, I acknowledged that those opinions arent even mine! How are you guys so sure that your own "facts" about these aliens are correct? Do you honestly not see where Im seeing hypocrisy? Anyways if you want a truce fine, but Im not gonna bother posting much in this forum anymore.

[personalreality]

Has anyone read Zecharia Sitchien's books?

[CFTraveler]

I have but I'm not going to get into it because he has too many fans here.
Just saying hi.

[personalreality]

haha.

I like his books, but liking and agreeing with are two different things.