hi

[soli]

I am learning how to phase with the guidance of Frank Kepple's informational posts and various sources found elsewhere that I have collectively organized in memory over the period of time I have been trying to gradually understand this process. I will be posting on this forum here and there to inquire and partake in discussions that I see fit. Thank you for reading my lil intro 

[personalreality]

you're welcome.

direct all phasing questions to Xanth as he is the forums official phasing representative. 

he even started the church of frank if you're interested in joining.    ( jk  )

we are here to help eachother so ask any questions that come up.

[soli]

you're welcome.

direct all phasing questions to Xanth as he is the forums official phasing representative. 

he even started the church of frank if you're interested in joining.    ( jk  )

we are here to help eachother so ask any questions that come up.

hi personalreality, your post on phasing for beginners coincided with Frank's so I will try it with the idea of listening to your ear's ringing. I think I know that sound and I can have it occur if I want to, it is very high pitched and constant, and as it occurs within the brain I believe it could be a useful tool in keeping one's awareness. From looking it up this seems to be medically called "Nonpulsatile tinnitus", however that seems to be only if the ringing is permanent.

[personalreality]

tinnitus is the word that describes the ringing in the ears.  But yes, that word usually describes a chronic disease where the sound can range from noticeable to painful and never goes away.

technically normal tinnitus never goes away, it's just so faint that we don't notice it most of the time.  But you'll find that if you can identify it you can make it louder and easier to focus on.

the difference between my technique and Frank's is that mind doesn't involve visualization, which one of frank's methods does.

his noticing is very much like what i do.

[soli]

tinnitus is the word that describes the ringing in the ears.  But yes, that word usually describes a chronic disease where the sound can range from noticeable to painful and never goes away.

technically normal tinnitus never goes away, it's just so faint that we don't notice it most of the time.  But you'll find that if you can identify it you can make it louder and easier to focus on.

the difference between my technique and Frank's is that mind doesn't involve visualization, which one of frank's methods does.

his noticing is very much like what i do.

Yes, Frank has stressed meta-physical imagery in his posts yet in his actual phasing instructions makes no real mention of it which has confused me as to what he advocates as far as depth in visualization is concerned. I feel that visualization is a means of communication to the subconscious due to how we think in pictures at least according to science which allows a more understandable translation than simply saying "I want to phase". Yet as to its necessity I feel so long as you are able to communicate in some way that visualization is not a necessary tool but a useful one if that is the preferred method.

[personalreality]

There is another level to visualization which is what frank and robert bruce both acknowledge, though at least frank was trying to take the mystical language out of it. 

your emotional energy is very important.  the visualization has to captivate your senses.  the pictures that we think in are connected to emotional memories.  that energy is what moves reality and gives us real control of our perception and our attention.  in the phasing rundowns you are doing something to engage your senses and thus the real power of you attention.  in rb's rope technique, you want to make climbing a rope feel as real as possible to sense memories of actually climbing.

[soli]

There is another level to visualization which is what frank and robert bruce both acknowledge, though at least frank was trying to take the mystical language out of it. 

your emotional energy is very important.  the visualization has to captivate your senses.  the pictures that we think in are connected to emotional memories.  that energy is what moves reality and gives us real control of our perception and our attention.  in the phasing rundowns you are doing something to engage your senses and thus the real power of you attention.  in rb's rope technique, you want to make climbing a rope feel as real as possible to sense memories of actually climbing.

after reading a bit more I am starting to understand that visualization isn't visualization but proper visualization is F2 itself. Do you find truth in this? I'm confused by what you mean as far as senses goes, which sense? I am thinking along the lines of "sight, hearing, touch, etc", you I think are speaking along the lines of conscious awareness?

[Timandra]

I am learning how to phase with the guidance of Frank Kepple's informational posts and various sources found elsewhere that I have collectively organized in memory over the period of time I have been trying to gradually understand this process. I will be posting on this forum here and there to inquire and partake in discussions that I see fit. Thank you for reading my lil intro 

Hi soli, welcome to the forums and nice to meet you here. 

[personalreality]

Your senses (sight, hearing, taste, touch, smell) get stimuli from their environment and create "sense memories" in your mind.  You can pull up those memories to "trick" your brain into thinking you're actually experiencing the situation that made the memory.  But most importantly, our mind associates emotion with sense memories.  Emotion is the real truth behind perception.  Having control of this emotional energy and being able to bring up emotionally charged sense memories (even if you're not totally aware of the emotion) is how to most effectively manipulate your reality. 

If you think about it, emotions are the most unique thing in human awareness.  Each of us experiences emotions differently because of the experiences in our life that shape our perception.  When you are happy, it's not uncommon for that feeling to be associated with past experiences that were similar and that adds to the experience of that emotion now.  I have different memories that are associated with my emotions, so I experience happy differently than you.  That's where true personal power comes from, being able to call up these memories and recreate the experience while in ritual. 

When you're doing your visualizations you want to make it seem as real as possible, which you do by engaging your sense memories and your emotional memories associated with sense memories. 

Just so you know, this is the basic principle behind magickal practice as well.

[soli]

Your senses (sight, hearing, taste, touch, smell) get stimuli from their environment and create "sense memories" in your mind.  You can pull up those memories to "trick" your brain into thinking you're actually experiencing the situation that made the memory.  But most importantly, our mind associates emotion with sense memories.  Emotion is the real truth behind perception.  Having control of this emotional energy and being able to bring up emotionally charged sense memories (even if you're not totally aware of the emotion) is how to most effectively manipulate your reality. 

If you think about it, emotions are the most unique thing in human awareness.  Each of us experiences emotions differently because of the experiences in our life that shape our perception.  When you are happy, it's not uncommon for that feeling to be associated with past experiences that were similar and that adds to the experience of that emotion now.  I have different memories that are associated with my emotions, so I experience happy differently than you.  That's where true personal power comes from, being able to call up these memories and recreate the experience while in ritual. 

When you're doing your visualizations you want to make it seem as real as possible, which you do by engaging your sense memories and your emotional memories associated with sense memories. 

Just so you know, this is the basic principle behind magickal practice as well.

Oh, I understand what you mean by senses now, the memory of a sense as translated by one's self, it does not matter what the type of sense is for it is still a sense. As sound is a wave that is picked up by our ears and translated into a sense, but, it is a "sense" and not a "sound sense". With sense an emotional memory is created based upon it as when someone yelling at you it is translated and an emotion is derived from it. My only question is how does one use a sense charged memory in order to cause a certain intention to manifest when the intention has no real connection to the situation in the memory?

[personalreality]

I can't answer phasing questions, don't do it.

You'll have to talk to Xanth, or read the Frank PDF

[soli]

I can't answer phasing questions, don't do it.

You'll have to talk to Xanth, or read the Frank PDF

ok, I edited my post then to reflect on the current discussion and left a question for you 

[personalreality]

It's about associated memories. 

For example, consider the law of attraction crap out there.  All those books on visualizing what you want.  Say you want a new car, you don't say "I hope I get a new car", you visualize yourself already having the car and you bring up the emotions that you would feel if you were in the new car.  You may not have specific emotions tied to that exact scenario, but your mind goes through the experiences you've had in your life and finds one that has a similar emotional tone.  Say you got a new cat or a new computer or something.  It brings up that emotional memory, then you use your imagination to apply it to this car scenario.  That's where the ability to think abstractly comes in.  That's why humans have higher level brain function, to allow us to think abstractly, hypothetically.