Not being able to move in the astral

[jly]

Can someone explain the reasons why it is difficult to move in the astral body. Virtually every time I am in the astral I cannot move. I am at a loss as to how to solve the problem.

Thanks to anyone who has experience with this matter.

[jub jub]

The first OBE I ever had found myself floating near the ceiling. I didn't have any clue on how to get going so I started making a swimming motion as if I were doing the breast stroke. It worked! Now it's just a matter of thought.

[Xanth]

Perhaps putting it this way will better describe the issue...

When you were born into this world, did you get up and run right away?   
Technically, the same holds true.

You've shifted your awareness into a, literally, new body for you to explore and understand with.
It's going to take several attempts to figure out how to move it properly.
Remember it's all about thought. 

~Ryan

[Fourthdimension]

I also had this problem jily and some times i still do. But xanth is right its all about thought. When i first projected every one told me its all about thought so try and move with your thought but i think even though i new it was thought i was still trying to move my astral as if it was my physical but slowly i got in the hang of it. Sometimes though i still feel as if i am been dragged around but mabye its just i am been taking someplace that i need to view more than the rest so mabye my higher self is forcing me there

Do you ever have trouble with astral wind? I always use to have trouble with that as well and remember numerous times asking cft traveller what to do haha.

But all in all the people who have already replied to your topic has sumed ot up . patience, persistence and practice.

[jly]

When you were born into this world, did you get up and run right away?   
Technically, the same holds true.

You've shifted your awareness into a, literally, new body for you to explore and understand with.
It's going to take several attempts to figure out how to move it properly.
Remember it's all about thought. 

~Ryan

Xanth: I have been projecting for years. I have not always had this problem. So far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with thought since thoughts I have about moving when I am there make no difference.

[Xanth]

Xanth: I have been projecting for years. I have not always had this problem. So far as I can tell, it has nothing to do with thought since thoughts I have about moving when I am there make no difference.

In that case, you can ignore my initial post!  LOL

Has anything changed in your life recently?
Any major shifts in lifestyle?

~Ryan

[Fourthdimension]

Jily are you been dragged to places you dont wanna go or are you just stuck on the spot and cant move

[Naykid]

I find that the further away from my physical, the easier it is to move. 

Virtually every time I am in the astral I cannot move

Can you elaborate on this some?  Are you by your physical, have you just become aware in a dream, are you lying on your bed,couch, chair?  Almost sounds like you are stuck in paralysis, but hard to tell without more info.

[jub jub]

I find that the further away from my physical, the easier it is to move. 
Can you elaborate on this some?  Are you by your physical, have you just become aware in a dream, are you lying on your bed,couch, chair?  Almost sounds like you are stuck in paralysis, but hard to tell without more info.

I was wondering that as well. Getting out of the body all together is another can of worms. There must be a milion threads out there that address this subject.

Seriously though, the breast stroke works wonders! 

[CFTraveler]

Can someone explain the reasons why it is difficult to move in the astral body. Virtually every time I am in the astral I cannot move. I am at a loss as to how to solve the problem.

Thanks to anyone who has experience with this matter.

There may be many reasons, but I do think that if you're close to your body it'll be more difficult. (Which is what Nay said).  Get away asap, even if you have to 'swim against the tide', and things will lighten up as soon as you leave the room.
Does this only happen with etheric projections, or does it also happen in the astral?

[Yin]

Is this due to the natural attraction one has to their physical body?

[CFTraveler]

Is this due to the natural attraction one has to their physical body?

I think so, but also etheric projections can be 'heavier' than astral projections (for the same reason) and more energy dependent.
I have had a similar experience while in the astral, but I think it had to do with other things, like my lack of development at the time.

[Yin]

I think so, but also etheric projections can be 'heavier' than astral projections (for the same reason) and more energy dependent.
I have had a similar experience while in the astral, but I think it had to do with other things, like my lack of development at the time.

Would you say this is because you're in a higher density than the astral?

[CFTraveler]

Maybe, if density applies (and it might, I have the idea it does).  This is a hard question to answer for me because I constantly go back and forth between the idea that the etheric is another differently scaled version of the physical (perhaps down to the nonlocal, or the quantum foam state) and something totally different.

[Yin]

I agree it is a hard question, it would depend entirely on the structure of the nonphysical, and I do not have any real beliefs of it as I don't have any experiences that I could even make an educated guess based off of. We could start with.. do we think the nonphysical is made up of particles also?

[Fourthdimension]

There is a theory which relates the non physical to the string theory because all atomic particles vibrate and all the sub atomic particles also vibrate at a certain level so mabye the non physical is also vibrating on a diffrent frequency to be as it is .

or...

Well i think that the non physical has to be made of particals. what else would it be made of? mabye its made of diffrent particles then we have here in the physical?

i have never experienced this but has anyone seen any thing like microwaves or beams transmitting to satlites in our houses from satalites space or rdio frequencys or any of those percievable in the astral? if so then the astral might be made of similar meterial?

[Yin]

There is a theory which relates the non physical to the string theory because all atomic particles vibrate and all the sub atomic particles also vibrate at a certain level so mabye the non physical is also vibrating on a diffrent frequency to be as it is .

or...

Well i think that the non physical has to be made of particals. what else would it be made of? mabye its made of diffrent particles then we have here in the physical?

i have never experienced this but has anyone seen any thing like microwaves or beams transmitting to satlites in our houses from satalites space or rdio frequencys or any of those percievable in the astral? if so then the astral might be made of similar meterial?

Its funny, because, I was going to say different frequencies also but pulled it back to particles as I figured it was more of a generic term, in this I remembered about string theory.. and was like wait.. do I believe in string theory without even knowing it?

[jly]

Jily are you been dragged to places you dont wanna go or are you just stuck on the spot and cant move

I just cannot move the body. Sometimes I also cannot even speak.

[Chubysnow]

Try thinking about moving, relax yourself, feel yourself move, believe yourself move, and you will move.

[personalreality]

sense memories help a lot.  that includes the sensation of movement.  pay attention to how it feels when you walk and try to apply it out of body.

[Naykid]

Wiggle your toes.  That is a sure way to get out of not being able to move.