How I got out!!! Finally

[ahzab33]

Hi,

Finally after months of trying, I have gotten out and had such a convincing experience that I have no doubt that this was the real deal. Prior to this, I had thought I had gotten out or had some experience where I had separated but did not actually move away from my body so I was reluctant to share those experiences. This one, however was it. This is how it went down.

I decided to use affirmations. I had tried many other techniques such as meditation, phasing, waking up without moving, etc. Affirmations yielded the best result to date. I have an iPod with a program called Speakit. It gives me the ability to copy and paste text into it and listen to it being read. I have used this program to listen to entire books since I don't always have time to sit and read them.

I typed up an affirmation and made it repeat over and over and listened to it while laying down to go to sleep last night. I didn't fall asleep right away so I decided to listen to some chapters from Adrian Cooper's book 'Our Ultimate Reality' where he was describing the Astral Planes, namely the lower planes and the lower Astral Entities. I listened to it and started to doze off. Once it was over, I woke up realizing it had finished playing but I did not bother to start it over again. I had probably slipped into a light sleep of about 5 minues or so.

I layed there for a few minutes and then I was struck with a very strong charge of energy out of nowhere hitting me in my back. It was so strong I felt like I was being tazed, but without the pain. This was different from the vibrations I had felt during meditation, about 100 x stronger. It threw me out of my body. As I exited I heard noises that sounded digitized, like the one in the matrix when Neo gets engulfed by that mirror after touching it. I was then in a black void. I could not see but I could sense my surroundings and I could hear voices all around me. I felt threatened. I felt like I was surrounded by beings. I went into attack mode and started fighting them for some reason. I shot fireballs at them. I could not see what I hit but I could something was hit. It got kinda wild and I tried to control my thoughts but I think due to the fact that I had listened to that portion of the book that spoke of lower Astral beings and such, thats where I ended up I believe. Maybe my mind created it. I have no idea.

After about ten seconds I got pulled back in to my body. I felt the re-intergration of the astral and etheric body take place as it took a couple of seconds and then I could move again. I then rolled over, took the blindfold off my face and looked around. I was like what the hell was that!!?? I thought for a moment, that was it. It all happened so fast that I didn't even have time to think about it or explore my surroundings. It felt like I was thrust into a pit with a bunch of people fighting. I guess that's what they call a spontaneous OBE.

Your thoughts are welcomed.

Jamil

[Stillwater]

That sounds like it might have been a kundalini relatated experience, from what you said about the intensity and the pain in your back. Those are two of the classic signs.

[ahzab33]

Interesting... It wasn't really pain though, just intense vibration. It didn't hurt. It just caught me off guard. I mean I was laying there and then it just hit me out of nowhere and I got the falling sensation. I heard Kundalini is extemely painful and happens after years of meditation. Does your body become paralyzed during or after Kundalini?

[solarity]

kundalini is a natural process

[Stillwater]

It may not have been Kundalini, but a powerful rising, vibrating sensation from the lower back is probably the most prominent symptom of the first Kundalini episode a person experiences. Some paralysis has been reported, but seems it seems to differ by the individual.

Kundalini is sometimes triggered during meditation, sexuality, OBE sessions, several types of Yoga, or spontaneously.

If it was actually a Kundalini episode, there is still indeterminacy. For many people, they will have the initial experience, they will have a wave of positive growth in their life, and they will move on. There are others who have a far less mild experience; these people will have recurrent pain, intense OBE-type visions, and sometimes the sensation of their body being compelled to take certain poses. There are few constants with Kundalini, and everyone has a slightly different set of symptoms and timeline. It sometimes lasts days, sometimes years.

If you have more symptoms, and suspect that it was a Kundalini experience, keep us posted. There are several people here on the forums who have had the experience in their lifetimes.

[ahzab33]

Wow. Definately will keep you guys posted...

[T.L.]

Vibrations, and sometimes intense motion same things that happen right before I exit my body. So congrats on that.

[AstralBeginnings]

It may not have been Kundalini, but a powerful rising, vibrating sensation from the lower back is probably the most prominent symptom of the first Kundalini episode a person experiences. Some paralysis has been reported, but seems it seems to differ by the individual.

I experience this huuuge vibration up my back and out of my head on EVERY obe.

[ahzab33]

Is there such a thing as being pulled or helped out of your body by somebody/something? In the past whenever I would try to project and I got to the point of being able to see through my eyelids, I would often perceive beings running around in my room as if they were waiting for me to come outside and play. I think that may have held up my progression a bit. Now I'm wondering it's possible one of those beings could have pulled me out, which would explain the feeling of being surrounded upon exit.

[personalreality]

kundalini is a word that is thrown around way to much

[T.L.]

I agree with Pr. I had so many people say that to me in the past few years when talking about the vibrations. Which feels like being electrocuted without the pain. I would just tell them I've read about it, but it doesn't quite fit what I am talking about. Perhaps in a way it refers to the same kind of thing. I read a few books about it, and it just reminds me of my pre obe symptoms... nothing more. Just the lead up to the real fun.

[personalreality]

IMO the definition of being alive involves consistent kundalini movement.

If you're alive and growing then your kundalini is moving.  It's not some esoteric thing that only happens if you're "chosen" or following some tradition towards "enlightenment".   Everyone, regardless of what we might think of their "awareness", is on a path toward enlightenment.  That's the definition of experience, moving toward enlightenment (which is a loaded word in itself).  Whatever you do in life you are on your path toward your ultimate life purpose. 

Some people have kundalini experiences that are intense and sporadic, others have a steady flow throughout their whole life and may never "feel" these symptoms others speak of.  It's often a neglected truth that your "Kundalini rising" isn't just energy up your spine, it's a full energetic awakening.  It effects your entire energy system and any kind of energy work you do (which can be as simple as trying to AP) stimulates this kind of energetic growth.

[Stookie]

It does seem true that many spontaneous kundalini experiences tend to happen to people who haven't been in the game very long, or have little energy experience beforehand. Maybe that's why it's so shocking to their system. As always, I could be completely wrong.

[personalreality]

No, I completely agree.

It continues to happen all your life, but your energetic system is much more conditioned to the energy surges so it is often barely even noticeable.

[Xanth]

It does seem true that many spontaneous kundalini experiences tend to happen to people who haven't been in the game very long, or have little energy experience beforehand. Maybe that's why it's so shocking to their system. As always, I could be completely wrong.

I can definitely relate to that.
As I had in my early meditation days what I believe to be a kundalini experience.

I was on a break between college classes, a long one, so I decided to go home for the three hours.
I got home, jumped on my bed and started meditating to some music... and what I experienced, I can only describe as extreme bliss.
It felt like it shot up my back, which caused me to arch my back... and the feeling was just intense ecstasy.  It lasted 5 or so seconds.

I haven't had it happen since... this was probably a good 8 - 10 years ago, but I remember it like it was yesterday.

I took it as a sign that I was definitely on the right path.

~Ryan

[personalreality]

you were listening to like an enya song or something.

[Xanth]

you were listening to like an enya song or something.

I'm impressed!
You ALMOST got it right!

That scored you some points. 

Yup, I was listening to "Return to Innocence" by Enigma. 

~Ryan

[Greytraveller]

Greetings Ahzab

To answer your question. --- Yes there is such a thing as a person helping another person out of their body. It is a relatively rare occurance yet it does happen.
Regarding the threatening beings that you encountered. Yes, it is possible that those beings were only the product of your own mind. On the other hand they may also have been real beings with an objective existence. There is quite a lot of controversy about this. My feelings, backed by personal experience, is that you did the right thing. Better safe than sorry. Maybe those beings could not have hurt you and yet again maybe they really were dangerous. Anyway congrats on the OBE.

Regards 
Grey

[Stillwater]

Yeah, I agree with greytraveler. The most accepted answer is that such entities, if do indeed exist independently of our own minds, don't have much potential to do harm. But no one really has the authority to say for sure.

[ahzab33]

Thanks guys,

One thing I noticed in this experience is that rationale was not very apparent. It was as if I acted out of emotion rather than common sense. I have read up on OBE long enough to know that I really don't have anything to fear from these entities such as death or pain or anything. When it was all over, I was kicking myself because rather than exploring I spent the time trying to slay entites that may have been created by my own mind after listening the chapter on the lower astral. Anyway, hopefully i'll get back on soon. At least now I know how to do it.