My half phasing experience

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OutOfThePrison

On my meditation I started to breath from my mouth to clear my mind&relax my body. Well I couldn't do it well my body wasn't completely relaxed and then I started my phasing process. Firstly I started to think my imaginary foots and then I imagined that I'm laying between the grasses. After a while I realized that I'm nearly completely phased and I'm not a physical creature anymore. Brteahing became very hard-this is my main problem-and my whole body headed upwards except my head. It was an interesting experience. I was tired and the breathing was making harder the prosess so I finished the phasing process and started an exist technique, but some places of my body was still on physicall awareness and I finished the meditation because breathing was so hard(I think this is same as sleep paralysis, both phasing and sleep paralysis with body asleep-mind awake meditation are same )

My question: Is using exit technique on the middle of the phasing process true? must I use the exit technique when I am sure that my physical awareness is nearly finished or is it necessary to wait to go to location which I imagine on the phasing process?)..I use roll-out method for exiting.

Xanth

"Phasing" doesn't use exit techniques.

http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/06/what-is-phasing-and-noticing/

If you're trying to use an "exit technique", then you're aiming for the separation type sensations of the "Classic OBE".
With Phasing you're aiming for an abrupt but smooth transition directly into the non-physical.  :)

OutOfThePrison

After I decide that I'm relaxed enough I imagine myself on a imaginary location. Is this a diffrent method than phasing?

Xanth

Quote from: OutOfThePrison on September 07, 2010, 11:48:43
After I decide that I'm relaxed enough I imagine myself on a imaginary location. Is this a diffrent method than phasing?
For the most part, yes.
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/06/phasing-method-mental-rundowns/
As there are no "exit techniques" for Phasing. 

However, it sounds like you're confusing yourself with two distinct ways of going "out of body".
It sounds like you're trying to mix Classic OBE methods with Phasing.
Classic OBE methods entail things like "exit techniques" and "separation sensations". 
Phasing deals with being "Here"... shifting your focus away... then being "There".  That's the best way I can describe it.

If you're doing the "roll out" method, you're no longer Phasing.  That's a Classic OBE method.

You need to pick one or the other.  Either relax yourself to the point where you can do an exit technique...
Or just do Phasing.

OutOfThePrison

Quote from: Xanth on September 07, 2010, 13:26:28
For the most part, yes.
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/06/phasing-method-mental-rundowns/
As there are no "exit techniques" for Phasing. 

However, it sounds like you're confusing yourself with two distinct ways of going "out of body".
It sounds like you're trying to mix Classic OBE methods with Phasing.
Classic OBE methods entail things like "exit techniques" and "separation sensations". 
Phasing deals with being "Here"... shifting your focus away... then being "There".  That's the best way I can describe it.

If you're doing the "roll out" method, you're no longer Phasing.  That's a Classic OBE method.

You need to pick one or the other.  Either relax yourself to the point where you can do an exit technique...
Or just do Phasing.

I think I understand thanks for explanation. It is better to phasing completely without using other methods to OBE.  I remember that I was completely lost my physical awareness on a meditation and I felt that I am "going" to my "phasing location (That location was Astral Pulse Island beach) and I insisted on focusing it but I lost the concentration. My idea is I would easily move as with my Astral body If I would use a seperation technique or maby it is better to say "moving technique" but I'm not sure

Xanth

Quote from: OutOfThePrison on September 07, 2010, 14:24:25
I think I understand thanks for explanation. It is better to phasing completely without using other methods to OBE.
It's neither better to Phase OR do Classic OBE methods.
But you can not do them both at the same time.  :)

QuoteI remember that I was completely lost my physical awareness on a meditation and I felt that I am "going" to my "phasing location (That location was Astral Pulse Island beach) and I insisted on focusing it but I lost the concentration. My idea is I would easily move as with my Astral body If I would use a seperation technique or maby it is better to say "moving technique" but I'm not sure
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here.

OutOfThePrison

My English is bad and it isn't easy to explain the metaphysical experiences for me so sorry :-)

I try to say that I was transformed to non-physical form or I believed to that in one of my phasing tryings. But it failed. I believe that If I tried to move to the corner of my bed I would be successful at that moment. I hope I could explain it If I can't sorry  :?

OutOfThePrison

I mean I couldn't go to my imaginary location(Astral Pulse Island) by saying "I failed"