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lucidguy

Hi I'm new here, I stumbled on this forum when I was googling the astral plane and thought I would join. Anyway, I have a question. Some nights I wake up in my old room in my old house only it isn't the way I remember it, posters that weren't there are there. And the door is open. Sometimes, I think I am about to have sleep paralysis and think Oh no I'll be frozen and get paralyzed. Sometimes I close the door before "He" comes, other times I leave my body only I can't see my physical body on the bed. I can also close the door with my mind and sometimes I am watching TV and suddenly there is a blackout and I know he will come (in the episode) I can also sometimes make doors appear in my room that weren't there or windows open (so I can escape)

I'm just wondering, is this the astral plane or just a typical sleep parylisis episode? Sometimes I also ask questions and get answers in my head, like why am I here or what happens when I die.

Xanth

Welcome to the Astral Pulse, lucidguy!  :)
Nice of you to join us.

That's an interesting set of experiences you have.
I'm assuming that during these experiences that you're either Lucid (you realize that you're dreaming) or you have full waking consciousness?
The nature of the reality, I find, is directly related to the state of the consciousness observing it.

During these "experiences" are you able to move at all?

personalreality

welcome.

i think these are all relatively common "otherworld" experiences.  call them whatever, hallucinations, lucid dreams, astral projections, etc.

sleep paralysis is just a physical reaction to waking up during REM sleep.  it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with projection or lucid dreams.
be awesome.

lucidguy

Quote from: personalreality on September 30, 2010, 09:39:46
welcome.

i think these are all relatively common "otherworld" experiences.  call them whatever, hallucinations, lucid dreams, astral projections, etc.

sleep paralysis is just a physical reaction to waking up during REM sleep.  it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with projection or lucid dreams.

Hi Ryan :) Thanks for the welcome, yeah sleep parylisis is natural but I'm not sure if walking around a room that isn't my own counts as sleep paralysis :)

lucidguy

Quote from: personalreality on September 30, 2010, 09:39:46
welcome.

i think these are all relatively common "otherworld" experiences.  call them whatever, hallucinations, lucid dreams, astral projections, etc.

sleep paralysis is just a physical reaction to waking up during REM sleep.  it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with projection or lucid dreams.

Oh and as I said yes, I am able to move around in the room that isn't my own...

personalreality

my point is that during a "normal sleep paralysis" episode, you're experiencing astral projection.  so it's not either or, it's ap during sp. 

sleep paralysis is not it's own kind of OBE.  people use sleep paralysis for the induction of astral projection.  the rest of your experience is common in both AP and LD.  Many of my projections start out in my old house, or in a house that 'feels' like my old house even if it doesn't look like it. 
be awesome.

lucidguy

Quote from: personalreality on September 30, 2010, 19:25:46
my point is that during a "normal sleep paralysis" episode, you're experiencing astral projection.  so it's not either or, it's ap during sp. 

sleep paralysis is not it's own kind of OBE.  people use sleep paralysis for the induction of astral projection.  the rest of your experience is common in both AP and LD.  Many of my projections start out in my old house, or in a house that 'feels' like my old house even if it doesn't look like it. 

Cool so I'm not the only one who has had these experiences. Do you know why that is? I used to think my old house was haunted before I found out about Sleep Paralysis which is why those experiences are more terrifying than the one's in my new house. So can you change the environment in the astral plane? If so I guess I do visit different dimensions. I must admit after googling this my spirituality has I don't know, evolved from just simple religion. I now realize we are spiritual multi dimensional beings.

Xanth

Quote from: lucidguy on October 01, 2010, 03:17:22
Cool so I'm not the only one who has had these experiences. Do you know why that is? I used to think my old house was haunted before I found out about Sleep Paralysis which is why those experiences are more terrifying than the one's in my new house. So can you change the environment in the astral plane? If so I guess I do visit different dimensions. I must admit after googling this my spirituality has I don't know, evolved from just simple religion. I now realize we are spiritual multi dimensional beings.
I think it's safe to assume that you're not alone in ANYTHING you can experience.
There will always be someone, somewhere who has experienced the same thing at some point.  :)

personalreality

A thought just occurred to me that you maybe also be experiencing remote viewing or something similar.  remote viewing imo is essentially astral projection, but instead of "going there" you're just "looking there".  that may also be happening if you don't experience and projection related sensations (like exiting the body), though exit sensations aren't necessary to project.
be awesome.

lucidguy

Quote from: Xanth on October 01, 2010, 08:45:18
I think it's safe to assume that you're not alone in ANYTHING you can experience.
There will always be someone, somewhere who has experienced the same thing at some point.  :)

Yeah it's really nice to know that, I thought I was just dreaming or something.

lucidguy

Quote from: personalreality on October 01, 2010, 09:23:04
A thought just occurred to me that you maybe also be experiencing remote viewing or something similar.  remote viewing imo is essentially astral projection, but instead of "going there" you're just "looking there".  that may also be happening if you don't experience and projection related sensations (like exiting the body), though exit sensations aren't necessary to project.

That's pretty cool as well, maybe some of them are. Maybe some are lucid dreams (hence my name)