Wassup!!

[rem]

Hello everyone, i been practicing lucid dreaming for some months now, and i got interested in astral traveling, so i got here, i'd like to learn about astral traveling, and maybe try it some time.

[personalreality]

Welcome to the Pulse

[Ryuk]

rem and ryuk ))

[Xanth]

Hi there Rem,

Welcome to the Pulse.

[rem]

So i wanted to ask something.. is there any risk with practising Astral projection? like.. spirits.. following you around or something?
that scares the hell out of mee!! o.o

[Xanth]

Nope.
Well at least, I've never had any issues. 

[Chris J.]

Welcome, Rem.

Where's the notebook?

[rem]

Welcome, Rem.

Where's the notebook?

HAHA, lol, i didnt get it at first. you mean the death note? xD

So when you go out of your body... how does everything looks like?, and, amm how do the spirits look like? o:

[Xanth]

HAHA, lol, i didnt get it at first. you mean the death note? xD

So when you go out of your body... how does everything looks like?, and, amm how do the spirits look like? o:

What you see around you is coloured by your perception of what reality should be.
And since us humans really only have life on Earth as our only perception of what reality SHOULD be, that is how our reality in the Non-Physical generally is.

Spirits look, for the most part, exactly like you and me. 

[personalreality]

physically there is no harm.

i imagine that if one were spontaneously projected, and depending on what they see, they could potentially have a nervous breakdown of sorts.  like if a very devout christian were thrown out of the body and witnessed what they believed to be hell (like Dante maybe), it could be a traumatic enough experience to break their psyche.  but i don't think that's very probably, just possible.

[rem]

ohh i see.. mm okay.. so where can i start gathering information about how to start and what to do and not to do if i go Out of body?

[Xanth]

First, you'll want to join a forum I know about... called the Astral Pulse... oh, wait...

Next, just read... soak up all you can, especially if you're anything like me.
I read all I could on the subject, and then some.

Then, when you do find yourself "oot and aboot"... just trial and error really.

That's my advice. 

[rem]

Okay, amm so spirits, you say they look like you and me, so, then never look like, creppy or something?  like i dont know.. ugly ghosts that will make me tinkle my astral self? xD and do they look like.. "transparentish".. or they look solid?

[Xanth]

Well yeah, you COULD come across spirits who don't know they're dead... who have died in a rather "horrific" way, and they don't realize that they can shed that realization from themselves.

But they're still JUST people.  People like you and me.
The only difference is that some of them might not have physical bodies to return to. 

[rem]

So lately i've been like.. i dont know scared of darkness in my house.. and i kinda feel like i am being watched..
is there any chance that when i go out of body.. ill see a spirit right away? and is there any chance that the spirit is evil? O:

[Killa Rican]

There's  a chance but dont assume anything is evil. Project out of your body with 0 expectations and then work with what you get.

And welcome to pulse!!

[Xanth]

So lately i've been like.. i dont know scared of darkness in my house.. and i kinda feel like i am being watched..
is there any chance that when i go out of body.. ill see a spirit right away? and is there any chance that the spirit is evil? O:

I won't say "no"... but I will say that I highly doubt you will. 

In any case... I fully believe that concepts such as "good" and "evil" are solely human concepts, they do not exist outside of human consciousness.
Any time that someone says that they encountered something "evil" or "good" while projecting, they are applying their own concepts and ideas upon something that can not be categorized as such.

[rem]

okay, so , is astral projection like.. lucid dreaming? i mean, what  is the difference? and in astral projection.. can you create all you want from nothingness, and have all the powers you like???

[Xanth]

okay, so , is astral projection like.. lucid dreaming? i mean, what  is the difference? and in astral projection.. can you create all you want from nothingness, and have all the powers you like???

That question took me a little while to figure out to ask. 
Congrats.

I see all of these experiences (dreams, lucid dreams and astral projection) as happening within the same 'area' of consciousness.
What differentiates these experiences if how consciously aware you are during them.

http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/08/31/dreams-lucid-dreams-and-astral-projections%E2%80%A6-what%E2%80%99s-the-difference/
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/01/how-i-convert-a-lucid-dream-into-an-astral-projection/
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/10/04/my-new-consciousness-designations/

Those are articles I wrote on my own website getting my thoughts on this particular subject down. 
I hope you enjoy them.

[rem]

So, dreaming and astral traveling take place in the same plane and just the % of consciousness is different?  and so the first's times i go out of body, it will be just in my personal space before i can go to the place where all the astral spirits are?,

[Xanth]

So, dreaming and astral traveling take place in the same plane and just the % of consciousness is different? 

The way I see it, yes. 

and so the first's times i go out of body, it will be just in my personal space before i can go to the place where all the astral spirits are?,

The "personal space" I call Focus 2 oC.
The place where all the "astral spirits" are, I call Focus 3 oC.

There's no hard and fast rule of where you'll end up... however, *generally*, if you're doing Mental Rundowns, you'll end up in the rundown of your creation... this being Focus 2 oC.

The trick to accessing Focus 3 oC is to keep your thoughts and emotions under control so you stop fueling the environment around you... then allowing it to fade away to see the collective consciousness areas.

[rem]

well... since im kinda of afraid of the spirits.. xD... i think i'd like to go to focus 2 first for a while... is there something in specific to do in order to go to focus 2? and whats a mental rundown?

[Xanth]

Information on Frank Kepples Focus Model: http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/01/my-view-on-the-wider-reality/

Information on Mental Rundowns:
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/06/phasing-method-mental-rundowns/
and
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/17/phasing-mental-rundown-in-greater-detail/

Basically, Focus 2 oC is the area of consciousness where you dream.
You're there every night. 

[rem]

Thanks for the info, so is there a software similar to the brainwave gen, that has similar presets? because when i try to install the brainwave, it says  "please wait while the setup is initializing"  and it gets stuck there.. nothing happens.. i thought well.. maybe its some heavy data...so i left it.."initializing" the whole night, and nothing happened...

So any other software you recommend?

[Xanth]

The software is fine... it's your computer, then, that has the issue.
If you're using Vista or Windows 7, right click the installation file and select "Run as Administrator".