weird xperience last night. HELP, spirit abduction?

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rem

Hello guys.. so this is what happened to me last night... i was trying to sleep.. which i was having problem with, then when i was finally falling asleep, i felt really weird... like my body started to shake a little, then i felt i was being lifted and i was like i turned 90 degrees and then i got really scared.. cause it wasnt a pretty feeling , so i stoped it... just wishing it to stop, but everytime i was about to fall asleep.. it would happen again,  so like.. the second time.. i felt like my arm and my leg rised, and i was being pulled in a gentle way, but that weird sensation came came back,
and i was thinking like.. "noo wait im not ready", and then i saw a text in my mind, i dont know why and i cannot remember what it said, and it stopped and i was in my bed again.. same position as ever.. so i guess what was moving was my non physical body, but anyway.. it happened a third time this time.. same.. i felt the touch of someone gently lifting me, and i heard a song, song was saying.. "trust in yourself, you can do it" and in that moment i was like "okay i dont know why but that gives me some confidence "  and i stopped refusing for a second.. but then when my body turned the 90 degrees in the air again, i saw a figure, the one that was touching me, it was a dark shadow, thats how i remember, a dark human shadow, so i got really scared, you know.. like my mind related dark to evil... really quick, and im not sure if it was a good or evil presence, or even if all this crap really happened or not, but what i know is that.. i told him.. " no, no not now, in the name of jesus christ let me go" and i was on my bed again, the weird sensation would come each time i was falling asleep,  so i got afraid of sleeping, and i putted like a barrier around me imagining, hoping it would help  and i waited til 8 am for the daylight to shine to go back to sleep.

The thing is, i mean i been reading bout this stuff, and getting mentally ready to start training, and all of a sudden someone tries to take me out of myself .. that really freaked me out, i've never have a OBE,  thats why all the feelings where so unfamiliar, who knows.. maybe everything was a dream, but that wouldnt explain why my body would feel shaky each time i was about to fall asleep.

So please people, any opinions or Theories?  im really freaked out. o.o

blis

It sounds like whatever it is is trying to help get you out of body. Try not to be frightened. I'd say through thinking about and wanting to project you've attractred a helper. It might even be a part of yourself.

I've twice had similar experiences. The first time I had managed to get my arm out but nothing else and so asked for help. Suddenly I could feel something pushing my legs up into the foetal position. Then I became aware of big waves in the duvet to my side like it was trying to push me off the side of the bed.

If I hadnt just that moment asked for help I would have totaly freaked out as well(I nearly still did). Try and be re-assured by the fact that it stopped when you said no. It tried to help you do something you desire and left you alone when you freaked out. Sounds pretty friendly to me. If you can get into a trance and ask for it's help it may very well still be there.

I know you say it kept feeling like it was about to happen again each time you almost fell asleep but that doesnt neccisarily mean that it was the thing was doing it. You might just have been naturally separating or falling into a deep trance or something.

Years ago before I knew anything about this stuff I went through a stage where I used to drop straight into full blown sleep paralysis when falling asleep. It used to freak me right out and I could feel when it was about to happen and  i would jolt myself up before it could grip me. The onset of that was a pretty weird scary sensation as well(one I havent experienced since). I spent several nights keeping myself awake because of it.

Things like this should teach you you have nothing to fear. You're still here and nothing bad happened to you. The non-physical you is immortal and the physical you cant be harmed by non physical entities.

rem

Mmm, you r right,  i feel better now.. i may as well ask for help from whatever was trying to give me a push yesterday.

but i mean.. once i get fully out of my body... is there a chance i will see the thing more .. amm human like?  cause if i just see a dark shade.. is gonna scare mee.. xD

Also.. is there a way to i dont know.. turn on some light in a dark environment while APing?

Thanks

CFTraveler

I agree, you've been consciously or subconsciously wanting help to get out, so chances are some self-aspect obliged.  If when you do get out it still looks uncomfortable in appearance, just fly away quickly.  But chances are, if you're not afraid, it won't be scary looking.

Ginny2

Hi rem,

Our beliefs have power. Maybe another way to look at what you're going through is to realize that inner fear-based beliefs (which nearly every human adult has) have to come out in order to stop them from inhibiting you. I came to see it as my subconscious freaking out in the beginning...and in a relaxed state I had to actually talk to it with respect, reassuring it that what I was attempting to do was good. I even struck a deal with my sub :-D, asking that it help me, guard my body while I was APing, promising that I would always return :roll:. Kinda silly but it worked.

Hope this helps and much love,

Ginny

Pauli2

rem, it was most likely one of your guides you saw. They always hide in the dark until you have learned enough to get more direct help. The guide may have helped you to OBE even.

If you send the dark shadow some feelings of love, you might see some more. :)
Former PauliEffect (got lost on server crash), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_effect

rem

Mmm yea but maybe he would take it wrong and just leave me.. after sending him away and putting a barrier around me..  is there a way to communicate with the guide?, but that'll be scary.. a better way.. how can i tell him to appear in my dreams or something.. so i dont freak out when i see him on AP?

Xanth

Quote from: rem on October 24, 2010, 10:17:26
Hello guys.. so this is what happened to me last night... i was trying to sleep.. which i was having problem with, then when i was finally falling asleep, i felt really weird... like my body started to shake a little, then i felt i was being lifted and i was like i turned 90 degrees and then i got really scared.. cause it wasnt a pretty feeling , so i stoped it... just wishing it to stop, but everytime i was about to fall asleep.. it would happen again,  so like.. the second time.. i felt like my arm and my leg rised, and i was being pulled in a gentle way, but that weird sensation came came back,
and i was thinking like.. "noo wait im not ready", and then i saw a text in my mind, i dont know why and i cannot remember what it said, and it stopped and i was in my bed again.. same position as ever.. so i guess what was moving was my non physical body, but anyway.. it happened a third time this time.. same.. i felt the touch of someone gently lifting me, and i heard a song, song was saying.. "trust in yourself, you can do it" and in that moment i was like "okay i dont know why but that gives me some confidence "  and i stopped refusing for a second.. but then when my body turned the 90 degrees in the air again, i saw a figure, the one that was touching me, it was a dark shadow, thats how i remember, a dark human shadow, so i got really scared, you know.. like my mind related dark to evil... really quick, and im not sure if it was a good or evil presence, or even if all this crap really happened or not, but what i know is that.. i told him.. " no, no not now, in the name of jesus christ let me go" and i was on my bed again, the weird sensation would come each time i was falling asleep,  so i got afraid of sleeping, and i putted like a barrier around me imagining, hoping it would help  and i waited til 8 am for the daylight to shine to go back to sleep.

The thing is, i mean i been reading bout this stuff, and getting mentally ready to start training, and all of a sudden someone tries to take me out of myself .. that really freaked me out, i've never have a OBE,  thats why all the feelings where so unfamiliar, who knows.. maybe everything was a dream, but that wouldnt explain why my body would feel shaky each time i was about to fall asleep.

So please people, any opinions or Theories?  im really freaked out. o.o
Realize, that you screwed yourself over when you thought "DARK" and then linked that to "EVIL".

Simply, stop worrying and start experiencing.  :)
Know that NOTHING is going to harm you when out of body.  :)

Go with the flow and stop fearing the unknown... I know it's easier said than done, but linking "human" concepts to what you're experiencing are only going to cause you to fear more.

CFTraveler

Quote from: rem on October 24, 2010, 20:40:38
Mmm yea but maybe he would take it wrong and just leave me..
A self-aspect can never leave you, they can stop acting on your say so, but not 'leave', because they are part of you.
Quoteafter sending him away and putting a barrier around me..  is there a way to communicate with the guide?,
You do it every time you think- there is nothing 'special' to do or say- just wanting this help is enough-if you can handle it you will receive it.

Quotehow can i tell him to appear in my dreams or something.. so i dont freak out when i see him on AP?
You can ask before you go to sleep, and wait for a dream for the next few days.


rem

thnx you guys.. ill try no to fear anymore and try to handle it.

moondreamer

This used to happed to me all the time, and I became so afraid.  This went on for many years on and off where I would feel myself float up and turned around.  It was just in the last year...one night, I was lying in my bed and I felt like someone was pulling me up again, and I just simply said "who are you?" and I got a his face, and I wasn't afraid anymore.  I stayed there, and what I got after that was loads of reassurance, and it was the most beautiful experience.  If this is your guide (and sounds like it could be), you simply communicate by thought.  This has led to many, many more such experiences even more powerful than that one.

My dream/astral projection blog
http://moondreamscape.blogspot.com/

rem

Woo.. cool moondreamer, so, it was your guide? so you asked him and what did he say or though whatever.. hehe

moondreamer

I had trouble 'hearing' thoughts at that time.  What happened though was that if I became worried, I felt immediately surrounded by this intense energy/love and would also feel like he was physically holding my hand.

The next time, right before I felt myself leave my body, I asked him to be present with me.
My dream/astral projection blog
http://moondreamscape.blogspot.com/