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Xplorer88

this is what really motivates me to keep trying and trying....i love reading people's out of body experiences. most of the new ones i find or look up are usually peoples first or second OBE. however as much as i enjoy reading these as i am a beginner myself, the novices and professional Astral Projecters are the onse with the most amazing and intriguing adventures/stories...prolly cus theyre not so confused when they AP, they understand whats going on better and they can do it more often as well as control it better. i spend alot of times searching for good stories/experiencs so i decided to put this forum together so that ppl can post their stories on one POSTing. also cus im lazy lol :-P

anyway im really interested in reading your stories....the weirder the better
i'd love to hear about the places you've visited and the people you've met
as well as things youve learned from the experience itself or maybe a guide
teaching and guiding you.  :? :-D :roll:


thanks for posting!!!
"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

AlanRK

Have you read Robert Monroe's trilogy? He details around hundreds of OBE's which anyone, be they novice or adept, can benefit from reading. Keep in mind though that every experience you read about will be second-hand, so details and perceptions can get really muddled. It's great to draw inspiration from reading those experiences, but try and remain objective and unassuming about things until you yourself can get some experience of it. Don't let others peoples ideas influence your own expectations, and your own experiences will be all the more richer for it.

I personally am reluctant to share any experience on a public forum that's accessible to the whole world. How about I'll add you to an IM, and I can share some things more freely, eh?

Xplorer88

yea def, i get what your saying i just want a sort of slight preview of what the rest of the astral world/planes can offer...ive yet to leave the RTZ or meet entities :/

sometimes when im feelin like givin up on trying to have further OBE's and exits, reading someones story makes me almost jealous :| and i want to experience simliar things for myself and it pushes me to keep trying  :lol:

and definitley ill send u a message with my IM, cant wait to hear'em!!!!! :-D :-D :-D
"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Greytraveller

Hi Xplorer
I'm glad that you started this thread 'cause I had an OBE a few days ago and am going to post it here. Usually I start a new thread topic yet this thread seems appropriate so here it is.
I titled this OBE                    "Short Flight"
Thursday November 11, 2010 (OBE # 98)
   This OBE was not preceded by a dream. It was late morning and I was in a deep hypnagogic state. Though there were no vibrations there was mild sleep paralysis. I had a sense that this was the right condition to deliberately go out of body and so made the effort to separate. Yet it was not easy and took about 5 minutes to fully get OOB. I was concerned about moving physically or opening my eyes and fortunately neither happened.
   Totally blind I rose up about 2 feet above my physical body. Without a plan of action or a specific goal in mind (forgot about Astral Pulse Island yet again! I need to do something about that) I decided to try to get outside by going through a window. Without vision I had to find my way by touch alone (forgot to use the "Clarity Now" affirmation, doh!). After a minute or so of groping about I reached the window.
   Getting outside through the window was surprisingly easy. I floated/flew about 30 feet above the yard lying horizontally. Gradually sight came, first I could see the yard, then the street and a nearby tree. I thought about what to do next and decided to visit CK (had not seen her since high school). This would take me to Stanton Heights, another neighborhood about a mile away. I made a flight of only one block and there an apartment building blocked my way. Unable to go over this building I tried to go around it. Yet the OBE suddenly ended and I found myself reintegrated back into the physical.
   Notes. Time was about 9:00 AM. Duration was 10 to 15 minutes. I lay on my right side. Location was a familiar physical Locale I. Deliberate,  Confused (due to initial lack of sight),  Flight,  Floated,  Sleep Paralysis,  Meditation (before),  Affirmations (before), Pranayama (before). After reintegration I was pleased at being able to deliberately go out of body yet was very unsatisfied with the quality and duration of the OBE.
Thanx for reading it. Regards  8-) Grey

Xplorer88

cool! thx for posting....damn #98 ur so lucky lol :-D

"Notes. Time was about 9:00 AM. Duration was 10 to 15 minutes. I lay on my right side. Location was a familiar physical Locale I. Deliberate,  Confused (due to initial lack of sight),  Flight,  Floated,  Sleep Paralysis,  Meditation (before),  Affirmations (before), Pranayama (before). After reintegration I was pleased at being able to deliberately go out of body yet was very unsatisfied with the quality and duration of the OBE.
Thanx for reading it. "


^^^i like this setup and info your recording for your notes or if its for ur obe journal...gonna revise my own and start recording some of that info for mine+would be useful to keep track of that information as well.
"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Xanth

Xplorer88,

The entire forum is really here for that purpose, that is, sharing of experiences.  :)
Do a forum search... I'm sure you'll find lots of great experiences to read about.

Greytraveller

Hallo Xplorer
Yes, the OBE is # 98, but I started numbering them back in 1993. So 98 OBEs over 17 years is really not that impressive.
Also you might want to record --
1) pre-OBE sensations, things like vibrations, sleep paralysis and strange noises.
2) How you moved about during an OBE. This includes floating inside a building, flying outside or instantly teleporting to another location.
3) any familiar or unfamiliar people or beings that you met OOB.
Note also that meditation, breath exercises, chakra and energy meditations done during the day (before an OBE occurs) are very important and should also be recorded as having an affect on an OBE.

Regards  8-)
Grey

Xplorer88

Have tried to OBE in the past month almost everyday with no success since my last OBE/exit, but here's a semi-Lucid Dream from 2 days ago that i was hoping would turn into an OBE. BUT for some reason when i realized i may be able to convert it into an OBE, i woke up<-maybe cus i thought of my physical body in bed and maybe intenting "seperation" or w.e?

((cant remember too many details and exactly what was happening before I became lucid but my memories after becoming lucid were much clearer. So I separated it into 2 parts: prelucid and lucid))

DESCRIPTION:
in the dream
(PRE-lucid):
i was with my cousin i dun remember exactly what it was we were doing(?). we kept trying something but couldnt figure it out or it wouldnt work. then my uncle who passed away almost 2 years ago, came and said to stop what we were doing and that he'd be right back. he seemed kind of mean when he said it but i ignored him as we left.(he was sometimes mean when he was alive, i remember thinking this when I was younger, but usually it was a front for him just trying to do something nice or advice you on something or it was for your own good.)
me and my cousin kept trying w/e it was we were trying anyway but with no success. Then a little while later he came back carrying something covered in white bag or cloth......he also said something to us but I cant remember what it was as he gave it to us. (dammit)

+ LUCID: when my uncle came back he showed me some wooden things he was carrying...then he gave it to me, wasnt 100% sure what it was at first but after i put it on i was more conscious and started noticing details (which ive noticed is something i never do in regular dreams, like the place and surroundings usually I only focus on the person and whats happening/go with the flow) I started noticing his clothes(he was in the army long time ago and he was dressed in military pants and boots) and also became aware of my thoughts at that moment and my surroundings in detail...and started realizing I was becoming "lucid".

The wooden things he handed me which I was now wearing and realized they were Wooden Wings, and they were "mechanical". I was wearing it like a bookbag and they were actually "flapping" for lack of a better word, and I was flying/floating with him. I realized that what I must have been trying over and over with my cousin, before I came Lucid, but with no success, was flying, since he had came back to "help". I looked around at where I was and it looked like "watchtower" from smallville if any of you watch that show. It had an old look to it looked wooden built or sumthin but a place for either inventions or research and missions or maybe a real watchtower not sure there was a big round window at the top and a very high ceiling. The wings reminded me of something Leonardo davinci made a drawing of as potential wings/invention for man to fly. So as im floating im realizing that im lucid and that these are things I have told myself to look out for in dreams(floating/flying) and if it were to happen to remember to use it and convert it to an OBE. I smiled cus im still floating in the air and I think ok so ill convert it to a OBE since im already flying...(I also smiled at what my mind had created->wooden wings to AP lol) if im just dreaming that means that im here but really im still in my bed my body is still there and I can possibly use this flying to OBE! When I realized this I woke up in my bed....errrrrrrrrrrr>:[   !
"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Greytraveller

Hallo Xplorer

That Lucid Dream Was close to becoming an OBE. Keep trying to go out of body. A desire to go OOB, including an unconscious desire, can eventually turn a lucid dream into an OBE, even when you least expect it.

Regards  8-)
Grey

Jarrod

In my experience most OOBEs happen when I'm not expecting anything, and it seems, specifically because I'm not expecting anything. haha

iamkuljuarenot

this morning around 11 o'clock I had my second OBE ever!!  It started off with me being in a dream, and I was leaving a location like a restaurant or something and when I was driving I saw a figure on the left side of the road so I slowed down, and then I sped up again really fast and at that point I felt a grab or a pull on my right shoulder.  It kind of startled me and pulled me out of the dream.  So, I was still in a very dreamy trancelike state just laying in my bed when I started getting very intense vibrations.  Soon thereafter i could feel from my torso down being lifted into the air, but I was stuck at my head.  I tried to roll out the rest of the way and I pulled out.

When I got out I started walking right away for some reason but i couldn't really see that great but all of a sudden i shot straight up into the air through the ceiling i could see everything below me (i live in an apartment on the 3rd floor), and then almost instantaneously i found my self shot back down to the ground level, I'm assuming what would be the apartment 2 floors below me.  I've never been in there before I'm guessing it can't be set up too differently than mine but nothing in it seemed recognizable or anything so after wandering around it a couple times i decided to jump out the window and was outside. 

At the beginning i could jump up in the air and swim through the air but it seemed like the farther i got from my physical body the clearer the OBE became and the more rules that applied (not being able to float or swim through the air anymore).  I didn't really have any goals in mind (big no-no i know), so I was just kind of walking through this neighborhood, it felt so real it was amazing.  Anyway, i was just walking through this neighborhood thinking about what i wanted to do, and i look to my right by one of the houses and there is a guy floating in the air doing flips.  Then he started to walk at a pretty fast pace away from me so I hollered at him to get his attention, he turned to look at me and i said "Hey, are you projecting?", and he just kind of grins and nods at me while saying "Yea", and then i said "Oh man that's awesome its so cool isn't it?".  Almost immediately after this chitchat i was back in my physical body and ticked that i got myself sidetracked.  Before i talked to this guy i was focused and my concentration was at a high level, but then just like that after i talked to this guy it was over in the blink of an eye. 

Oh well it was still fun and i hope i can do it again soon.

Xplorer88

iamkuljuarenot---thanks for sharing sounds pretty similiar to my 2nd OBE too. i wonder if the guy was really another projector that was interesting. keep it up!!!

ok here's my latest OBE str8 from my journal entry

this was the most..."akward/strange" one yet because of the way it turned into an OBE. this is also my 1st successful OBE that was entered from a dream, ive never been able to go into an OBE through dream/lucid dream only by "phasing" using the "right after wake up" method, but oddly it felt very familiar.(not from recent/last OBE but from childhood)

SORRY! I know its very long but decided to just post in my whole journal entry instead of cutting things out or making it shorter, felt like including EVERYTHING in this specific one because of how different it is compared to previous one and It's the first OBE ive had since end of October after like 50+ failed attempts or close calls(reaching lucid, VS but not converting to OBE). =)
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OBE (#4 since discovering A.P. Sept 15, 2010)
DECEMBER 07, 2010

-Detailed Descrition-
ok so as usual with any of my (regular)dreams details are a bit vague I lost some bits and pieces. In this dream I remember I was up my block of where I live on the street. I was looking down towards the corner/end of the block.... it was daytime in the dream and everything seemed normal. Then I remember hearing gun shots, like a good 4 shots itleast and I remember I went behind a parked car and took cover. I kept looking down the street to where the sound of the shots came from trying to figure out what was going on. The part about the shots and ducking behind the car I remember clearly but I don't remember what happened right after I came from behind the car. I think I had a confrontation with somebody and was trying to fight the person or w.e cus I swung at them and started chasing them and I remember clearly my right arm reaching out like I was swinging @ someone but more like I was swinging my arm out to catch or grab onto them.I guess whoever I was running after was still too ahead of me cus I reached out my arm as much as I could trying to reach(this is exactly where the changes started) and then I felt a very sudden what I can only describe as the "mindsplit" feeling.

That feeling when entering an obe where you feel like a duality type feeling like your in two places, a bit of sinking and felt out of body/completely conscious.....now all these feelings rushed thru/happened while I was still "running" and trying to catch someone and right as I was reaching out with my right arm as much as I could with a lot of intent/force to catch/reach whoever it was. .... my dream literally turned into lucid and then OBE in a matter of seconds, almost automatically and while it was all "happening" but its almost like I skipped the lucid part and went str8 to OBE.

I remember while getting the dual/mindsplit feeling, asking myself what this really familiar feeling was, and then remembering "oooh its an OBE!!!", feeling conscious and thinking "wow so all I have to do is swing my arms or spin around as hard as I can in the dream and itll turn it into/bring me Out of Body?? during the mindsplit/dual feeling(being in 2 places at once) after reaching out, I then  saw the person who I was swinging at or trying to catch while I was runnin n coming thru the wall and it was ME!, or itleast thas who I saw once the other person I was reaching for turned around but it was also me turning around watching me turn around ?get it?(really don't know how to explain this part but its part of the dual feeling or maybe the dual feeling made this happen dunno)

Right after I saw myself its like my dream body came into or towards my astral body (remember it was chasing it) and I guess the conversion was complete cus next I just remember standing there in my living room (only 1 of me now), in the same baby blue t-shirt I was wearing to bed (in the dream I was wearing a black longsleeve jacket outside) completely conscious. My first thought was "wait so... I;m awake now? Cus I know I was just dreaming and now im not dreaming anymore".

I quickly realized that although completely conscious its def OBE not real life because Im here in the living room instead of my bedroom in my bed. I got really happy! (especially since I hadn't had a conscious OBE only a few lucid dreams/flying dreams since my last exit end of Oct.). I started walking around (more like floating) in my living room but for some reason I kept collapsing and falling. I thought ok wtf why am I not moving good remember to move its all about thought and intent. I kept trying and I would get up everytime but unless I really stayed thinking get up or stayed focus on staying up id fall back down. When I would fall its like the room would get a bit blurry and a bit darker too. I thought ok "clarity now" and it got bright all o sudden like som1 just turned on the lightswitch. I said ok I have to leave my damn house and the RTZ remember that's the goal for next OBE.(ive yet to leave RTZ)

I tried like 2 more times to stay standing completely up/erect but failed so I decided to use as much intent and energy as I could to fly out thru the ceiling. I shot up quick with as much "intent" as I could and remember being able to get halfway thru the ceiling seeing the lightbulb/cieling fan by my head, half my body coming out the roof like I was going to keep flying str8 up and I even saw what looked like the night sky covered in stars looking really nice but then it turned into just complete blackness and I awoke in my bed! The OBE I could remember clearly just happening but I could barely remember the dream so I stayed still in my bed for like half hour remembering the dream and then repeating it to myself before moving and getting the notebook to write it down ....(ive woken up before from a dream, tried to recall and in my head say 2 sentences or keywords describing the dream to myself so I wont forget..... and then I move to look for a pen and its gone....damn shadow memories)....after about half hour of laying there making sure I downloaded everything I possibly could, especially since it led to an OBE I wanted as much detail as possible to record in my journal

->My O.B.E/dream Journal---detailed description ^^^
Time: went to sleep round 11pm, woke at 4:52am
Physical location: bedroom/asleep in bed
Dream/Astral location: up the block/living room,RTZ

->Keywords:
gunshots, running, up the block home street, hiding/ducked behind black car, dream and OBE running/playing out simultaneous during "conversion"for a few seconds, swinging, strong arm movement leading to feeling coming O.B, dual/mindsplit feeling,
seen self, from 2 viewpoints, dreamME looked at APme in living room w/babyblue shirt turning around to face dreamME, APme saw dreamME comin thru the wall with arm out wearing black leather jacket reaching.swinging arms toward APme, then only APme left, living room, recognized consciousness, am I awake? is this OBE? Yes it is love/miss this feeling! lights getting brighter then lower then brighter then lower, said "clarity now", lights stayed on, not gradually but instant like turning on switch, tried moving round kept going low to ground like falling/stumbling, kept stand up completely but would go down again, did this few times, thought must leave RTZ! shoot thru ceiling, got glimpse of sky w. then pitch black then...few seconds later...AWAKE in Bed

Dream? yes
Lucid? yes
OBE? yes
Accomplished AP?how?: Not deliberate, thru dream, felt confused but quickly recognized the familiar feeling, radical movement with arms, swinging/reaching out action caused coming out of body/mindsplit feeling
Meditated? no
Affirmations? Yes few earlier in the day and right before going to bed
based on having no fear and having OBE awake or thru dream, strong intent
Health/energy? Very tired before bed
Goal in mind? To leave the RTZ!!!
Food? Yes...Lunchable's snack b4 bed(ham n cheese crackers w. kiwi strawberry juice/butterfinger candy bar)
Sleep position? On my back
Work/off? Worked during the day but was off the following day after OBE.*

-*ive noticed that my 3 of my 4 OBEs and some of the lucid dreams have occurred on nights before im off, ?maybe cus Im in a better mood and feel like I will get enough sleep, or feel like i wont need too much energy next day or have to wake up early/tired cus of work.??

End result/progress: Was very happy although short and not deliberate OBE still an OBE at that, which brings me a step closer to mastering skill. Too excited to go back to sleep woke @ 5 instead of 7....Maybe not expecting things to happen like I can overdo sometimes may of helped. Have strong intent for it but at the same time don't expect it to happen, just let it. Figured out and will try again swinging or spinning or flying tends to make me lucid or strong fast movements in dream. last time I stayed lucid for a while after putting on mechanical wings and flying, but woke up before converting, this time gaining lucidity as it converts to OBE.

additional info---Interesting note=***I used to have falling dreams and running/chasing dreams like this all the time when I was a kid, either in church as I fell asleep or right before going to sleep, or on roadtrips and it was ALL the time, for me it felt normal having these to run and trip or fall in a dream before going to sleep for good, to me it was a sign that I was just falling asleep and wasn't aware of it cus usually when I woke it'd be with a jump like I fell and landed in my body and id usually feel surprised of where I woke(in my bed,church etc.). instead of being at the location where I was at in the dream. One time I remember I was at church and the chair almost fell back cus of the way I moved when I woke and my cousin who was next to me said what the heck happened were you having a nightmare? Felt embarrassed cus everyone was looking at me(in the dream I was running in my house and jumped over a chair which I failed to pass over completely and one of my feet tripped over it and I fell quickly and hard because I was running fast picking up speed to jump it, woke up breathing hard and surprised). This 12-7 dream/obe reminded me A LOT of my childhood "presleep" falling dreams. Ive learned that these are def related to OBEs and now im starting to see the link between them, and also how the OBE mindsplit/dual/out of body feeling felt familiar even from the first time of having experienced it back in my first exit last week of sept., but the way I entered this one str8 thru the dream it felt even more familiar then entering OBE state thru phasing++ Look up and read on children and astral projecting, falling dreams etc. tomorrow.

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"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Xplorer88

Quote from: Greytraveller on December 04, 2010, 22:53:11
A desire to go OOB, including an unconscious desire, can eventually turn a lucid dream into an OBE, even when you least expect it.
Regards  8-)
Grey

^you were right Grey, i wasnt expecting it that night at all, didnt even bother on putting the alarm to wake me @ 4 to start trying like ive done almost every single night cus i felt too tired. it just happened, without me expecting it to.
"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Greytraveller

Xplorer
Right, it just happens like that sometimes. Without warning, w/o trying, it just Happens!
Your latest OBE (#4) was really well recorded. You remembered a lot of details and that's good!
The person that you fought in the dream was most likely a dream figure/thought elemental that you created for the dream. Yet you realized it after becoming lucid and going OOB.
I am convinced that the fastest and easiest way to go out of body is through dreams. I have even written out a protocol to follow every night. It is still in the experimental stage. It goes 1) spend 10 minutes in OBE induction usually rope or cargo net 2) state affirmations for the night and list any dream incongruities to look for. 3) attempt to induce a W.I.L.D. and then, if in a lucid dream transform it into an OBE. So far no LDs/WILDs. I need to stay with that until it works.

Regards  8-)
Grey

Xplorer88

Quote from: Greytraveller on December 09, 2010, 23:43:19
Xplorer
Right, it just happens like that sometimes. Without warning, w/o trying, it just Happens!
Your latest OBE (#4) was really well recorded. You remembered a lot of details and that's good!

thx^ i adjusted my journal and added few things/sections/checklist that i saw you recording with your OBEs as well, that seem like further useful information to keep record of.

Quote from: Greytraveller on December 09, 2010, 23:43:19

The person that you fought in the dream was most likely a dream figure/thought elemental that you created for the dream. Yet you realized it after becoming lucid and going OOB.
^^i believe your right about that part i was thinking the same thing

Quote from: Greytraveller on December 09, 2010, 23:43:19

I am convinced that the fastest and easiest way to go out of body is through dreams. I have even written out a protocol to follow every night. It is still in the experimental stage. It goes 1) spend 10 minutes in OBE induction usually rope or cargo net 2) state affirmations for the night and list any dream incongruities to look for. 3) attempt to induce a W.I.L.D. and then, if in a lucid dream transform it into an OBE. So far no LDs/WILDs. I need to stay with that until it works.

Regards  8-)
Grey
I like^^
ive been doing something similiar, usually ill try a method or phasing before going to  sleep, then affirmations for OBEs and gaining lucidity and I also have a list of things to look out for in dreams that may generate lucidity, things that are very common to pop up in most of my dreams anyway and to look out for, and I re read the list before going to sleep so I make sure they're fresh on my mind and I look out for them while dreaming.
I call these "Triggers" because they can trigger a lucid dream when I see these or recognize them/it in the dream= 1)FLYING, 2) childhood neighborhood(which I tend to end up in all the time when i dream), 3) lightswitch 4) running, 5)Augustus,my uncle -who passed away and I tend to dream of occasionally, last lucid dream it was this uncle who handed me mechanical wings so I could "fly" before becoming lucid-6)Carolina, 7) New York (moved to Florida recently so I shouldn't "be" there but dream of it a lot) >And of course once I find myself lucid next and final step is to attempt to convert to OBE =) !!!


im starting to think that it may be easier thru lucid dreaming as well, been having better luck and closer calls since I started concentrating on accomplishing OBEs thru lucid dreams. But I think its hard to have lucid dreams (itleast for me) if I don't record my regular dreams. Recording my regular dreams/lucid instead of just OBEs like I used to, has been showing me how close ive been getting unconsciously thru regular dreams and has been providing me with a list of recurring things I should pay attention to, to trigger lucidity, as well as forcing me to recall shadow memories on a regular basis which seems to be helping my recall ability.(i was the type that thinks he doesn't dream at all or rarely ever dreams, but I see that's not true I dream itleast 1 dream every single night just tend to forget right away after getting up, and im getting better at remembering details now instead of small bits and pieces/fragments).

ALSO I read something XANTH had on how to lucid dream and recognizing it etc. and doing constant "reality checks" even when awake. that helped a lot too. And I found out that Xanth has most of his OBEs thru Lucid dreams so I guess he found/finds it easier like this too, which is what got me started on attempting OBEs thru dreams.< =) Now I feel like I doubled my chances at astral projecting because im not just trying before going to bed and after waking up, now im still trying even while I sleep! ;)
"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Xplorer88

"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Xanth

You're very welcome Xplorer,

I should correct you though... I have *ALL* of my projections through Lucid Dream conversion.  :)
I'm still working on the fine art of Conscious Exits.  I feel I'm close, but I lack the time available to practice.

For the "How to Lucid Dream" article, you can really thank Summerlander from the Astral Viewers forum.  He put that one together.  :)

Stookie

Quote from: Xanth on December 10, 2010, 14:33:09
I'm still working on the fine art of Conscious Exits.  I feel I'm close, but I lack the time available to practice.

While I don't know your schedule, I would bet if it was important enough you would find the time. A while back I started going to bed an hour earlier so I could get up an hour earlier to practice. I also think that by forcing schedule changes like this, you impress on your subconscious how important it is. By relying on lucid dreams, you miss out on the benefits of conscious practice. And with all the phasing advice you give, how do you expect to advance in phasing yourself if you don't practice it?

Xanth

Quote from: Stookie on December 10, 2010, 14:55:24
While I don't know your schedule, I would bet if it was important enough you would find the time. A while back I started going to bed an hour earlier so I could get up an hour earlier to practice. I also think that by forcing schedule changes like this, you impress on your subconscious how important it is. By relying on lucid dreams, you miss out on the benefits of conscious practice. And with all the phasing advice you give, how do you expect to advance in phasing yourself if you don't practice it?
As usual you're 100% right!
I should enforce the time upon myself...

I think I procrastinate too much.  I'll do it later.  :D

Xplorer88

"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Greytraveller

Greetings

Regarding the dream 'triggers' that Xplorer wrote about. One of my daily affirmations is "Recognize an incongruity in the next dream." The idea is to recognize an incongruity in a dream and therefore realize that it is a dream and then become lucid.
Some of the main incongruities that I look for are-
a) being back in high school,
b) seeing deceased people, usually celebrities, in a time frame when they were/are not alive, and c) dreams of war, especially WW1, WW2 and the Korean War.
Of course there are potentially hundreds more dream triggers/incongruities yet the point is to look for the ones that are the most obvious.

Regards  8-)
Grey

Xanth

Quote from: Greytraveller on December 11, 2010, 12:55:01
Greetings

Regarding the dream 'triggers' that Xplorer wrote about. One of my daily affirmations is "Recognize an incongruity in the next dream." The idea is to recognize an incongruity in a dream and therefore realize that it is a dream and then become lucid.
Some of the main incongruities that I look for are-
a) being back in high school,
b) seeing deceased people, usually celebrities, in a time frame when they were/are not alive, and c) dreams of war, especially WW1, WW2 and the Korean War.
Of course there are potentially hundreds more dream triggers/incongruities yet the point is to look for the ones that are the most obvious.

Regards  8-)
Grey
I actually tried that one a few times... and the majority of the times I tried (cause I tend to forget to do it a lot LoL) I've had lucid awareness experiences that night!  :)

I highly suggest giving these/this affirmation a shot!

Xplorer88

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just thought id share this real quick. strange experience. last night i had a very weird dream/lucid dream/obe. to be honest with you i record my dreams and i usually have 3 boxes to check=was it an OBE, LUCID, (REG.) DREAM? but this one im not even sure.
last nights was very short but it seemed so real that i cant say its a regular dream but i am not sure whether it was lucid dream or an obe.
Ill try to keep this description short

I named this “shadow intruder”  12/27/2010

ok so i fell asleep. im always alone (i live on my own and im in a new city where i dont know anybody.) but anyway long story short my brother, his girlfriend, a friend, my mother and cousin came to visit from ny day after xmas. in my house 3 of them slept over instead of getting a hotel. so anyway i decided ok maybe this will help with obes since i can be a bit scared sometimes when im having one or about to have one but with people here maybe itll be better because i wont have as much fear. Or maybe they’ll last longer..who knows<===how wrong could i have been, this has been my first negative obe/lucid or w.e it was. all i remember is me waking up on my bed...it could of been lucid or obe cus it didnt feel like a dream but i didnt get that famliar "dual" feeling i feel when im in an obe so im gon classify it as "lucid/ possibly obe"+ felt very real.
   so anyway i wake up on the bed, its dark exactly how it should be now and everything looks normal, except instead of there being people on my bed (my brother was sharing my bed with me and the other 2 guests on an airbed) there was nobody. i was sitting up when i awoke on my bed to look around and didnt see anybody, but all of a sudden i remember thinking if someone came in the house(for some reason?) and i slightly remember picturing the door/ the sound of it opening. so im waiting in my bed cus im thinking "wtf is somebody coming in the house now?" and as im thinking this, someone is walking in my room coming from the living room (where the door was). i was trying to see who it was as i started getting a little scared seeing someone standing by the hallway. it was dark so all i could see was a dark figure of somebody. The closer it would come the more the fear grew. And then it hit me like this is real someone actually came in to my house in the middle of the night! the emotions i never felt/experienced myself having fear escalate to this level. the person at first looked black, but then looking closer i can see that they’re completely black, not like human black person but like a shadow black like a shadow was constantly covering their face/body. They were pretty tall itleast 6 feet. The closer he came the more my fear would grow until he was right infront of me. i felt the fear so real and my hearbeating to the point where it felt like my chest was hurting. as the "shadow intruder" came in my room and walked towards me and my bed, it got to the point where all i could do was cry. I actually started crying out of so much fear when he was across from me by the bed.(im more of the type that actually enjoys getting scared/adrenaline rush and I never cry!).
the very last thing I remember is me putting my hand over my chest cus of the strong feeling of fear almost hurt. But that’s not how it ends. For some reason I also remember not feeling scared at all, it completely stopped, fear completely left me right before ending, or maybe I just don’t remember what happened after im not sure but only thing I remember after he was across from me,  me feeling my chest is that I kno it didn’t end in fear/bad. I remember feeling a sigh of relief as well as embarrassment (that i was crying)right towards the end before it ended but I don’t know why and cant remember past this point!!! Can barely remember sh1t after the part about me touching my chest. (and this is bothering me) since its still so vivid in my mind the part I do remember from start to end (or what I think was the end) dunno why the last little tiny bit slipped away. however i do remember what i felt. did feel embarrassed like som1 had seen my reaction and found it a bit funny, right after feeling the fear leave/sigh of relief. Overall though not a pleasant experience although it seemed to not of ended bad. I can say I experienced a new level of fear that I’ve yet to experience in regular awake life though.
"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."

Xplorer88

"this heart within me i can feel, and i judge that it exists. this world i can touch, and i likewise judge that it exists. There ends all my knowledge...and the rest is construction."