Hello! First post/experience!

[68plexi]

Hi everybody-

I've been experimenting with OBE's for about a year now, and as of lately, I've been getting some results, or what I think are results. I've studied both Robert Monroe and Frank Kepple, in addition to exploring this forum, which I have to say is quite wonderful! However, because of the things I have learned I am not sure whether I am dreaming about and visualizing the things I have read about, or am I actually experiencing OBE's. Chronologically, my experiences have been these (they started about 5 months ago):

-The vibrations. These happened only once, during an afternoon nap, at around 4:15 pm.
-Using the Lucidology alarm tapes (tricking your body into falling asleep before your mind does), I reached a what I'd call a heightened awareness. (also happened once)

After a period of about 3 months where nothing happened, I started experiencing the following, all of which were during afternoon naps, by the way:

-The bouncing against the ceiling experience.
-Waking up during a dream, and being fully aware of having a lucid dream. (Unfortunately the phone rang after a few seconds...)
-I floated in absolute darkness, while approaching some ray of light.
-And today, I exited and left my hotel room, floated down the hallway and down the steps and outside.

So today's experience raised some questions: First off, when I "floated" outside, it was like summer outside, and there were bellhops. Well... I'm at a Best Western in Denver, CO. It is not summer in Colorado (trust me), and bellhops at a Best Western...? Right...   Furthermore, it seemed a lady at the front desk was able to see me. I checked after I woke up to see if she was there, but nobody even remotely resembling that lady were on duty. There were two guys.

So my question would be, was today's experience a dream? The last four experiences all included me becoming very aware, and a definite sensation of leaving my physical body. (except for what I believe was my lucid dream experience, where I felt like I was being inflated into awareness, if that makes any sense). However, the first time separating, it was as if a pair of scissors opened up, with one side being my body, the other being my spirit. The second time, it felt as if my spirit was being sucked out of my feet, and today it felt as if my spirit fell out of my back. What all three OBE's had in common was that they all felt like I was surrounded in a heavy fog, and I had a little bit of a hard time moving around.

What are y'all's thoughts?

[blis]

Whenever I've exited into to RTZ things have stayed pretty true to life until I get a few hundred metres from my body. I then encounter differences. Often the place will resemble how it may have done in the past or future. I always just assumed the RTZ was changable like that but I was reading a post a while ago that was saying that if it's different then it's not the RTZ.

I know I'm definately "exiting" my body as I remain fully conscious throughout and its a very different experience to the WILDs I've had. The transition between an accurate environment and different one seems seemless. Maybe i'm unwittingly phasing out of the RTZ and into a self created environment. Maybe I'm going into a different time. Maybe I am still in the RTZ but I'm just percieving it in a different way. I dont know.

All I can be sure of is that it's some sort of "out of body" experience. If you experience a shift in consciousness from physical to non physical it's an OBE. If you want to know where you are at all times I suppose you'd need to go down the hemi-sync route and learn to move between all the different focus levels. Even then, I dont think they cover the RTZ.

Whatever way you look at it I'd say you definately had an OBE. Maybe the bellhops are just the way you subconsciously see hotel workers.

[NoY]

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[personalreality]

The line between a vivid lucid dream and an OBE can be hazy, especially when you're starting out.

I would say that was an OBE because I too find myself in situations that look like the physical reality but with some significant differences.  Maybe you saw that place in the past when they might have had bellhops and maybe that woman did work there.  Or maybe it was the future, a future where Best Westerns are 5 Star facilities with full service (including bellhops) and that woman works there.

Or maybe it was just a projection into your mind, your subconscious.  Maybe your mind put those people there for you to interact with, maybe they are parts of yourself that you can learn from.

Oh, and welcome to the Pulse 68plexi 

[68plexi]

Thanks everybody!!

I suppose, whatever it was, I felt great bliss, and therefore it was great.

I do believe something like an OBE occurred. I became very, very aware of my hotel room, where I was (in bed), the position I was laying in, and even what I was dreaming/thinking about. I took my nap mainly because I was tired, to state the blatantly obvious here, but I was secretly hoping for an OBE to occur, since all of my other experiences happened during afternoon naps. I suppose I was in that gray area between being asleep and being awake, and I became very aware of what was on my mind, namely my job, and with that, and how it really doesn't pay all that well  . The thing was, as soon as money entered my mind, I felt a change in awareness. I thought "SWEET!!!", and thought about money with a lot more intent, and *pop*, I was out. It felt as if I dropped out of my back, as I was laying on my left side. I suppose this is what Monroe refers to as the rolling technique?

At any rate I was ecstatic. I heard some thing like an electric toothbrush, and saw my roomie sitting on his bed, brushing his teeth. I bumped into him, which kinda hurt, and then moved on to the door, where I stopped for a second. I thought to myself: "I can go through this wall/door!!" and *plop*, I was in the hallway. I floated, close to the ceiling, towards the foyer, over several children's heads, who were coming out of their room. After that I floated down the steps and past the front desk, where there were people checking in and where the lady saw me. I waved at here, but she just kinda looked at me with indifference. I thought to myself that was somewhat weird, because I was a ghost, so she should be freaking out. Then I went outside, and floated past some bellhops. At that point I felt I had experienced all I could handle, and *pop*, I was wide awake in bed.

My roomie was sleeping, but later on that evening I asked him if he was brushing his teeth in bed, with an electric toothbrush, while I was asleep. He was not. Also, he now thinks I am crazy. I did rush to the front desk, but there was no lady there. There were some children, and some people checking in, but I couldn't recall any faces. And there certainly weren't any bellhops. Also, during my experience, it was summer. Yesterday however, Denver, CO was cold enough for me to stick ice cubes in my pockets to keep my rear end from freezing. Also, there was a Christmas tree in the foyer, which wasn't there during my experience.

So all in all, I'd say the location didn't change at all, it was spot on. I would say though, I was in a different time.

By the way, just to get my lingo right: RTZ= Real Time Zone? What does WILD stand for?

Thanks for the responses!

[Monk]

Wake Initiated Lucid Dream

It's where you constantly retain self-awareness all the way down the rabbit hole. Due to conscious awareness being held constant, the dream is immediately turned lucid for it needs user awareness to do so