More information on Focus 10 and Focus 12!

[Xanth]

I wanted to share some more awesome posts that I've found that are seriously helping me with my phasing progress.
I've got two posts here, one by Frank (well duh LoL) and the other by Clandestino who is one of the other moderators here.
I reposted this over on my website and I ended the post with my own method I've been using lately incorporating Franks "noticing" method.

These describe the... well, not the process for moving from Focus 10 to Focus 12... but it describes the visuals and feelings associated with those two states of consciousness.  I mean, there's also a slight "how" in there as well if you can find it.  

http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/11/24/post-focus-focus-10-and-12/

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I've been doing a bit of research lately on Focus 10 and Focus 12, and I came across yet another gem-of-a-post from our good buddy Frank. The poster is called "Difference between Focus 10 and Focus 12″:

   

Is there any difference between Focus 10 and Focus 12 ?
   I would like to get the answer especially from tose who were/are successuful with the tapes from Monroe Institute.
   Any different body sensations ?
   Different visuals ?
   Different type/quality of OOB ?

   Thanks in advance
   Jan

Franks reply:

   

Yes, a distinct difference.

   Focus 10 is where you have retreated from the physical about 85 to 90%. You still have an awareness that somewhere "back there" is a physical body. You are aware that you have one, but aren't really interested in it, and receiving next to no input from its physical senses. Your mind is awake and alert, but your focal point of consciousness is contained in what feels like a black 2-dimensional compartment somewhere about the centre of your head.

   The primary difference between Focus 10 and Focus 12 is the 2D blackness becomes 3 dimensional. In other words, you get a sensation of an opening up of space, all around you. It's like if you suddenly found yourself in an unfamiliar room, where you were standing in the middle, and there was no light whatsoever. You wouldn't have any spatial awareness at all. All you'd see would be a 2-dimensional blackness before your eyes.

   Now, say, someone very slowly began to turn on a light. There would come a point where you'd begin to see abstract shadows. Then, as the light got steadily brighter, the shadows would become more distinct and you'd begin to recognise basic shapes. This is what Focus 12 is like.

   People perceive the state slightly differently, but the primary difference is the fact that the 2 dimensional blackness becomes 3 dimensional. Which gives you a distinct feeling of spatial awareness. You can't really see much at this stage, just indistinct shadows, or maybe whirls of foggy sort-of darkness. But, as I say, you cannot miss the *distinct* feeling of spatial awareness that comes about.

   From Focus 12, it's like the light progressively gets brighter. Taking the room analogy a step further, as the light got slowly brighter, there would come a point where you'd recognise some object, previously perceived as an indistict shadow, as a chair (say). But you wouldn't know the colour of the fabric or the pattern (if any). As the light got brighter still, you'd start making out that there might be a pattern on the fabric, but you still wouldn't be able to see the colour. As the brightness increased, there would come a point where everything would come into view. This is Focus 21

   Yours,
   Frank

I like his description of how the Focus 12 state slowly comes out of the Focus 10 state. "The light progressively gets brighter"... that's really a great way to describe it... and then his description of the progression into Focus 21 using the chair is really good too.

All of these posts by Frank that I keep relaying here are part and parcel of the progress I've made over the past year. I wouldn't know what I do now if it wasn't for reading and understanding this stuff.

Oh! I want to add this post in a different thread from Clandestino, one of the other moderators on the Astral Pulse.

   

Hi there Nick,

   this reminds me of another post a few weeks ago, I think Frank was talking about a guide giving him info on how important the focus 12 state is in the whole scheme of things.

   It is the transition from focus 10 to 12 that is often hard to acheive. Once you are there though, the whole thing should unravel towards focus 22 and "out of body" experiences.

   One common technique is focussing on something in your field of view...e.g. a dot of light, or a slightly different coloured area in the blackness around you. If you are in focus 12, you may find that the dot of light you were focussing on takes shape, and grows into an astral scene.

   However, if you are in focus 10 and you focus on something behind your eyelids....not a lot is likely to happen !

   "how do you get to focus 12?" i hear you ask ? I don't know yet, it just happens sometimes. I would compare my experiences to a blind man walking down the street and then finding the edge of the pavement (or sidewalk if you're that way inclined). All of a sudden, there it is !
   After a while of walking down the same street, the blind man will find it easier to reach the kerb. Ask him how he did it though, and he might find it tricky to explain.

   I'm sure there are a few folks out there who have more positive suggestions..?

   ps – don't infer from the above that i'm a regular at this sort of thing; i've managed it a few times only so far.

That's very much exactly what goes on. Just find some point of "interest" in your current field of view... and focus on it. If you see that which you're focusing on start to take shape... it doesn't have to be any particular object, just a formless blob... then you're most definitely in Focus 12. From there, it's a simple matter of just doing what you're currently doing... and ALLOW yourself to be taken into the 3D blackness of Focus 21.

The part where he talks about HOW you get to Focus 12... the point here is that it does "JUST HAPPEN".   Just as you allow yourself to get swept into Focus 21... you must also allow yourself to be taken into Focus 12.

I've changed up my routine slightly lately, as I now use the Noticing exercise more than anything else these days.  I'll sit there staring at a single point on the back of my eyelids.  As I begin to slowly feel my body relax I'll start to move my physical eyes upwards REALLY slowly... moving them upwards as much as is comfortable as I don't want to strain my eyes because that would become counter productive.  At the point when my eyes are pointing upwards as much as I can, I should be pretty relaxed... you can use a progressive relaxation technique here if you wish and as you go through each muscle, move your sight upwards slightly.

For knowing how MUCH to move your eyes... stare straight ahead while you're awake, then move your gaze upwards as far as is comfortable.  With your eyes open this is easy, with your eyes closed, you'll need to fixate on a portion of the blackness in front of you for your eyes to lock there.  So, now that you know your range of eye movement, just split it up into nice sections and move your eyes accordingly for each progressive muscle relaxed.

So now you're relaxed and your eyes are comfortably looking upwards... just watch the scene infront of you and see what happens.  Wait for something to happen.   That's all I do.  

[Taoistguy]

Thanks for that, that explains what happened to me last night. As I was 'noticing', (I always tend to look into the blackness, as if trying to see right into it, or beyond it -- Is this correct or good to do?), and anyhow, I see coloured globules/shapes dancing around, when suddenly they all went 3D! It was a bit of a shock as I didn't expect it. It was quite amusing though, but stopped and went back to 2D after a few seconds.

[Xanth]

Thanks for that, that explains what happened to me last night. As I was 'noticing', (I always tend to look into the blackness, as if trying to see right into it, or beyond it -- Is this correct or good to do?), and anyhow, I see coloured globules/shapes dancing around, when suddenly they all went 3D! It was a bit of a shock as I didn't expect it. It was quite amusing though, but stopped and went back to 2D after a few seconds.

Correct!  The coloured globules/shapes dancing around is Focus 12 and going from there to the 3D Blackness is shifting into Focus 21. 

For me, the shift feels like moving REALLY fast through a veil of water of something... really movementy.  LoL

And the reason why you stopped and went back to Focus 12 was because your physical eyes most likely tried to grab a quick look themselves.
If you can passively observe with them and HOLD that Focus 21 3D blackness, then you've successfully phased and are open to the complete non-physical now. 

[WillQ]

Hi guys,

I don't really know the theory behind any of this, but is this the same as when you meditate and you walk into an image you created in your minds eye?

You know, where it feels physically real and you feel like you have two bodies, just that one's in the back of your head? (it's hard to explain what it feels like to have two physical bodies, haha!)

I'll give my tips, but excuse the fact that I don't know any of the terms for this stuff, I just kind of do it:

My way (Is this called Focus 21? Someone help a newbie out!):

To move from blogs of dull colour -> bright colour -> that brief flash of 3-D, colour imagery -> a fully imersive scene, I've got a few tricks.

One is that when I feel the 3-D images flashing up (I'm not sure if other people have this, but I'll see the scene and then lose it) I do NOT move my eyes.  Not one bit.  

If you move your eyes and try to look around you'll break it.  Keep your breathing steady and your eyes perfectly still and just try to expand your peripheral vision, slowly.

When it's built up, try looking around.  You have to be careful that when you DO look around that it's not your physical eyes that are moving.

(again, sorry if there's other terms for this stuff, just saying how I do it / think about it)

Edit:

Ah, sorry, I see now!  Are we talking about in meditation where it suddenly feels like you're sat, looking into outer space?  Like 3-D but dark?

[Pauli2]

My way (Is this called Focus 21? Someone help a newbie out!):

To move from blogs of dull colour -> bright colour -> that brief flash of 3-D, colour imagery -> a fully imersive scene...

F 21 is still darkness I think, as it is a border area to other systems. When you see full scenes in color you are at least in F 22, perhaps F 24 and further. F 23 is often filled with darkness too, until you met someone discarnate and things brightens up a little. My guess.

[Pauli2]

There is the permanent topic of Focus 10, parts of it are terrible.

One part is "A peek around the corner: Beyond 10" where some stuff about Focus 12 is mentioned. Would it be possible to create a permanent Focus 12 topic? Because I view Focus 12 as the entrance to RTZ OBEs I would like to read a little more about it. I've also noted that there are some quotes from P. Leva's book, and I really think those quotes sometimes are terrible, they contain stacked adjectives with little coherent descriptions.

Just read and make sense out of it:

"...floating sensation; spacey; gray fog, infinity; high electricity; less stringent; Focus 10 more stringent; smooth; gentle; lot larger, no limit; head somewhat exploding, seeing symbols; vastness..."

I'm also under the impression that 3-D blackness can occur in various Focus Levels; Focus 12, Focus 21, Focus 22, Focus 23 and perhaps in other places as well? Maybe something about the 3-D blackness should be mentioned? And how it appears, sometimes it's only in front of you visually, sometimes in your head, sometimes surrounding you, sometimes it stretches 360 + above and below you, etc...

[CFTraveler]

I think 3-D blackness can happen in between any focus at all, so I can't imagine how it can be categorized or assigned a specific place in the range.

[Xanth]

I think 3-D blackness can happen in between any focus at all, so I can't imagine how it can be categorized or assigned a specific place in the range.

I agree completely.
It almost seems as a 'border'-like state between the Focuses without being an ACTUAL border.

[Major Tom]

This is correct, there is no reason to limit the the 3D blackness to any particular focus level.

As far as those quotes, they will make sense once you experience it. Sometimes adjectives, or even poetry, does a whole lot more than just analyzing it, thinking you got the picture while in fact you do not. I do understand that mental movement to a great degree, but it doesn't change the fact that practice has to incorperate more than just that. Projecting is an art, more than anything else.

Now as far as moving from focus 10 to 12, it is mostly just about loosening the leesh, in accordance with leaving the analytical world behind - atleast for the time time being. You do have to get into in some sort free-flow to be able to reach it, even if it risks falling asleep.

Analytics and exactly knowing what to expect do not help a great deal in achieving that state, and will actually prevent you from doing so, which is one of the reasons I have never embarked upon describing it in the same detail as reaching focus 10.

Another reason is that all different focus levels and divisions are not really useful in practice, and most of the information on how to reach the out of body state is already out there. This is also one of the reasons I have been moving away from looking at my experiences in terms of focus levels. There are other ways to allign practice with theory.

I agree there is room for improvement to make people more effective at reaching the state, approaching it from yet a different angle, but it's still going to take your passion and dedication, which is poetry yet again. That simple fact is too easily forgotten, and in fact, it is something that will take you further than anything else.

[Stookie]

Amazing post MT. I love how you relate this with poetry and art. I never really considered it like that, but my passion for AP/meditation is very much the same as a passion for good music and art, and that is a major force in my success. Much more so than scientific & analytical theorizing. For everything I've learned, the true inner changes that come about are from experiencing in an open-minded way, and being guided by my own intuition. To me, this stuff is pointless if your not inwardly changing and becoming more "complete". There are so many things to experience that just can't be put into words.

[Major Tom]

Thank you Stookie.

It's how it always how it worked for me as well...give me some Bowie or Beatles...and I'll be projecting that same nite

On that note, the following applies to all of us as far as astral projection:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cHvtPB2dY

[CFTraveler]

I loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove David Bowie.......
Thanks for posting the link!

[rohitmahes]

I would like to suggest you another way of achieving the 3d blackness. I have tried it once but it was a successful attempt, so please let me know if this works for you.
Step 1- Stare at the Brow Chakra for a few minutes with you physical eyes. It might not feel as comfortable as you would like but you would be able to feel a little preasure in the middle of you forehead.

Step 2- As soon as you are done doing this, lie down and stare at the blackness right in front of your eye lids.

Step 3- Take a back seat and keep observing this blackness without an intent. As you do this the flares of light would slowly convert into shapes and actual movie like footage..but black and white.
As I was doing this I was able to see cars and roads and people driving these really cool automobiles. I was just trying to figure out what the hell was going on...but it was really really really cool.

Hope this helps

[Lionheart]

 Has anyone ever tried to project to Pink Floyd, it would seem that their music was made for Astral Projection?