Sleep Paralysis Eye Question

[Pauli2]

I wanted to bring a post I found here, which has seemingly been lost to the ages, back into the focus. 
It was written by Jeff_Mash.  I'll just link my writeup on it.

1) YOUR EYES MUST BE ASLEEP

What do I mean?  In a nutshell, your eyes play a BIG role in the ability to consciously have an OBE.  They themselves must be asleep.  Here is what I mean by that.

Close your eyes right now and leave them closed . . .

Eyes must be "asleep"? Closed?

Perhaps, perhaps not. I've had 1 - 3 OBEs (all turned into dreams) from SP, and I am now sure to 90 % that you can OBE with your eyes open if you are in SP, at least if the SP is so deep you don't feel your body.

A short time ago I woke up in SP, opened my eyes, then closed and opened my eyes a few times. With eyes open, in SP, and after some seconds of though I just was think-myself-move-forward. My eye sight (my head?) started moving forward without me using any muscles. I saw the wall, which was lit up by daylight, move closer and closer to my "eyes". Eventually my "head" moved into the wall and I "opened" my mouth, because I intended to experience how the wall tasted when I was in OBE. The inner of the wall tasted something like dry saw dust with a rough structure. The interior of the wall was very dark, almost completely black.

I had no exit sensations whatsoever, no vibrations.

My OBE soon turned into a dream stage and I lost lucidity and some remembrance, but the first part; moving forward towards the wall, was done with eyes open and being awake & aware of myself. My bedroom wall was indirectly lit up by very bright daylight from the outside sun through the bedroom window.

I wonder if anyone else have OBEd with eyes open?

At the request of Pauli, I split these out into their own thread ~Xanth

[Xanth]

Pauli,
Jeff's advice in his post is to assist in conscious exit projections.  This information won't help you much in Sleep Paralysis.  When you're in Sleep Paralysis, you're past the point where your physical eyes matter.  In your case, I can pretty much guarantee you that you're physical eyes were closed and you were viewing with your non-physical senses.

[Pauli2]

In your case, I can pretty much guarantee you that you're physical eyes were closed and you were viewing with your non-physical senses.

Maybe, but at the same time it is certainly possible to open your physical eyes during SP, as for example this video shows -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ8KrjZuVBQ&feature=related

I couldn't find many good links about SP open eyes, but found this fun list of severe SP experiences that seems much like stages before OBE, dark figures pulling at the SPers ankles etc. -> http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1740

[Xanth]

Maybe, but at the same time it is certainly possible to open your physical eyes during SP, as for example this video shows -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ8KrjZuVBQ&feature=related

I couldn't find many good links about SP open eyes, but found this fun list of severe SP experiences that seems much like stages before OBE, dark figures pulling at the SPers ankles etc. -> http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1740

Yup, because the eyes are one of the only muscles that aren't paralyzed during a bout with Sleep Paralysis. 

[David Warner]

I will be releasing a new video that I used three cameras for right/left and front viewing of the physical body during the OBE state / sleep paralysis. Verified before/after physical body + room temp. Last, connected stethoscope hooked up to my body to record breathing and the beats to audio via laptop. This will be available soon on my web site www.invisiblelight.us

I can well assure you from previous recordings that I have done in the past with video - during the OBE there are very brief moments you might open your eyes. I have only seen this on the tail end of when the OBE experience is ending that my eyes open and you can tell I am in the trance state spaced out.

We live in a world where technology is at our disposal so make use of it and see for yourself what your physical body looks like during the OBE.

DW