Validating Experience and Paralysis...?

[barbosa]

Hey all,

My first post, great forum.  I've lately been interested in lucid dreaming, OBEs, astral projection, etc.  I've read a couple books here and there.  I haven't yet begun actually trying to implement any techniques, something I will remedy pretty soon.

But, I did want to mention a quick experience I had several days ago, to get your thoughts.  Monday afternoon I took a 30 minute nap.  I drifted off into sleep merely thinking about lucid dreaming and projection.  No techniques or anything, just visualization and thought I guess.

I dreamt that I was in apartment with a friend of mine.  In the dream, my friend turned to me and said something very peculiar.  She said "I love you today."  The addition of "today" put an odd spin on an otherwise common phrase.  I remember thinking in the dream that it was such a weird way to say "I love you".  I had never heard her use that phrase, on me or anyone else.  In fact, I'm pretty sure I've never heard the phrase anywhere.  That was the main takeaway from the dream: that this common phrase was spun into a peculiar one.

At any rate, I woke up, and I was paralyzed.  I get sleep paralysis from time to time.  I was disoriented and shocked, of course, as it seems you can never really get used to sleep paralysis.  Realizing that this was all somehow maybe related to my interest in OBEs, I quickly tried to get over the shock and see if I can do something constructive about it.  It's odd because I'm pretty sure my physical eyes were closed and yet I could see my room while in the state of paralysis.  I focused on just exiting my body (again, I don't know of any techniques, I'm a total newbie).  Within a second or two, I felt this pressure accumulate in my skull, and heard an incredibly loud buzzing noise.  I felt a part of me getting lighter and airier.  This carried on for about 10 seconds, and then bam, it stopped, and I slammed back into reality.  I never really exited (I don't think so at least?).  Paralysis gone, and fully woke up/gained control of body.

I mentioned the "I love you today" thing for this reason: after waking up, I talked to my friend (the one I saw in the dream).  I described the dream to her and what she said to me in the dream.  She responded saying that she uses that phrase (or a variant of it) when being silly with her kids.  She'll apparently tell them "today I love you" or "I love you today."

I am 99% sure I had never heard her say that.  She certainly never said it to me.

I thought maybe that was a validation of something more that occurred, that somehow I was aware of some phrase she uses in real life that I shouldn't have been aware of.  That in conjunction with the odd paralysis after waking from the dream made me think something might have happened.

Does anyone have any ideas?  Was my dream maybe in actuality an OBE of some sort, and the paralysis afterward was symptomatic of re-entry or something?  Thanks in advance.

[Lexy]

in your dream where you aware that you were in actually in your bed & having a dream?

[barbosa]

Yes, I was definitely aware though I didn't have control over my actions.  During the dream, I remember thinking "when I wake up, I'm going to ask my friend about this weird phrase she used."

[Pauli2]

Some consider dreams to be OBEs or at least APs even when you're not lucid. But disregarding that, I would say:

You were in a regular dream in Focus 22, and not really lucid, it counts as a projection in the sense that all dreams are projections. People can visit each other in dreams in their dream worlds, so perhaps she visited you, or you both were on a common ground in the dream world. People can become playful in dreams. I don't regard that as an aware projection, as when someone says: "I projected during my meditation and went to the moon."

The SP was just that, and you may do an OBE from SP, by just thinking "Forward! Forward!", without trying to use any muscles. With some luck you will OBE to the physical world, but you can also quickly drop back into dream land (after OBE) and lose lucidity.

Edit: corrected Focus typo.

[barbosa]

Thank you for the replies.

Last night, I experienced paralysis again.  It lasted 2-3 seconds, at most.  And this time, I am positive that I "saw" my room even though my physical eyes were closed.  Weird sensation.

At any rate, Pauli, what exactly is Focus 22?  A Google search yielded this:

Within Focus 22 we often find those perhaps still physically alive who are in an unconscious state. These include people in comas, in drug induced states, who are dreaming, who are insane or deranged. This is a very chaotic level.

I was hoping you could explain a bit more about that, or point me in the right direction.  Thank you.

[Xanth]

Focus 22 is the area that Monroe labeled where, including that which you've mentioned... we "dream", "lucid dream" and do "astral projection" in. 

[barbosa]

I see, thank you Xanth.

[barbosa]

Another experience yesterday dreaming about the same friend.

I had been forming the intention this past week to AP or lucidly dream so that I can see this friend, who lives halfway across the world.

During a late afternoon nap yesterday, I dreamt that I was on her street.  In normal waking life, I do not know any details about her street or her house.  I saw that she lived on the corner lot of where two streets meet, and that the street she lived on was very clean.  I then saw her kids leave for school.

I woke up, with distinct body vibrations.  That and the fact that the dream felt oddly real, led me to think maybe it wasn't just a normal dream.

At any rate, I talked to her later that night and asked her if she lived on a corner lot, on a very clean street.  She confirmed she did.  Further, my nap was around 8 pm my time, which coincided with Monday morning in her part of the world, around the time her kids would indeed be leaving for school.

The corner lot thing was a coincidence maybe.  If not, what would you all label this?  

The thing is aside from my pre-sleep intention to visit her, I didn't have any actual control while in the dream, at least none that I can recall.

[Boom]

If she's willing, you should see if she can take any pictures of her street, and see if you recognise it from what you saw? If so then you may have had what people called an RTZ projection.. Projection to real time zone.. ie your conciousness actually went there! which would be pretty amazing, especially if you can keep repeating that.

[barbosa]

Instead what I did was draw a map of what I saw in MS Paint and send it to her.  Something I forgot to mention to her, I saw her house on a corner lot of a T-intersection (as opposed to a corner lot on a 4-corner intersection).  I told her about that today and it turns out I was correct about that too.   Finally, when making the drawing, it came to me that there was an open field expanse in front of her house.  She confirmed that there is an open area (with a lake, which I didn't see) in front of her house.

She looked at my drawing and said there were some differences, but definitely more similarities than differences. 

[Tee1234]

Instead what I did was draw a map of what I saw in MS Paint and send it to her.  Something I forgot to mention to her, I saw her house on a corner lot of a T-intersection (as opposed to a corner lot on a 4-corner intersection).  I told her about that today and it turns out I was correct about that too.   Finally, when making the drawing, it came to me that there was an open field expanse in front of her house.  She confirmed that there is an open area (with a lake, which I didn't see) in front of her house.

She looked at my drawing and said there were some differences, but definitely more similarities than differences. 

If you have an address you can use google maps. Type in her address and keep zoomin in untill you get to the photos. You can actually see photos of anything on her street as if you were standing in front of the house and takin a picture.

...Youl know 4sure then.