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charmsloo

I still have yet to project, but I want to know what exactly is etheric projection. I have heard the term used, but dont know its difference from astral projection. Also would want to know more about spirit guides. Does your spirit guide come in an image you want it to? For instance every time I think of a spirit guide, I think of a human, but can you have like an animal or something like this....




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charmsloo

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Under_the_Midnight_Sun

Quote from: charmsloo on February 16, 2011, 19:20:01
Does your spirit guide come in an image you want it to? For instance every time I think of a spirit guide, I think of a human, but can you have like an animal or something like this....
Strange you should ask that. During my first experience with a guide he came to me as a dog that walks on two legs. I asked him something like "why are you a dog?". He replied that he is whatever form i wish him to be.

charmsloo

oh thats cool, so Im taking im right that your spirit guide is in the form you want it to be

Monk

Quote from: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on February 16, 2011, 19:25:34
He replied that he is whatever form i wish him to be.

Well that's strange isnt it? It could simply be your subconscious playing tricks. You want a spirit guide and one suddenly pops out from the blue. it kinda seems like that "self-help" kind of stuff out there on the internet.
They say hope begins in the dark...
But most just flail around in the blackness, searching for their destiny...
The darkness... For me... Is where I shine.

CFTraveler

Quote from: charmsloo on February 16, 2011, 19:20:01
I still have yet to project, but I want to know what exactly is etheric projection. I have heard the term used, but dont know its difference from astral projection.
An etheric projection is a projection to the 'real time zone' which would be your room, your house, etc.  An etheric projection is a kind of astral projection (they're all astral projections, roughly speaking).  What is commonly called 'astral projection' is a projection to the astral planes, also known as collective environments that are created by everyone using their thoughts, conscious and subconsciously.  Astral landscapes can look natural, but are usually the interpretation of the mind of a place, for example, a fairy realm, a scene from ancient greece, someone's version of heaven... you get the picture.

QuoteAlso would want to know more about spirit guides. Does your spirit guide come in an image you want it to? For instance every time I think of a spirit guide, I think of a human, but can you have like an animal or something like this....

A spirit guide can have no shape at all, but it is said that they portray themselves to you as whatever makes sense to you- whatever it is. 


Astral316

Quote from: charmsloo on February 16, 2011, 19:20:01
I still have yet to project, but I want to know what exactly is etheric projection. I have heard the term used, but dont know its difference from astral projection.

An etheric projection is an astral projection into what is percieved as the physical world. It usually begins near the location of your physical body and things can appear different to varying degrees. It's common belief that the etheric planes are closely related to the physical world, and the bridge into the more imaginative astral proper.

Under_the_Midnight_Sun

Quote from: Monk on February 16, 2011, 19:48:37
Well that's strange isnt it? It could simply be your subconscious playing tricks. You want a spirit guide and one suddenly pops out from the blue. it kinda seems like that "self-help" kind of stuff out there on the internet.
It very well could be my subconscious playing a dirty trick on me  :x, but the guide went on and showed me a visual of the united states, and where there would be some disastrous earthquakes in Oregon and Northern California around the year 2020 and around the year 2040. but these too could have been my subconscious

tweed

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I've read that dream characters don't seem they are really there. You can't have a decent conversation with them. Will be something I try next OBE

Under_the_Midnight_Sun, my friend has had a similar experience. His was a figure made of light. Describes it as not really having its own personality..

CFTraveler

My experience with dream characters is that they really don't know anything.  They may tell you something that is really not true, or something you already know.  Unfortunately it seems to be common that they tell people 'the future'- it may be something built in our psyches.  One way to test is to ask them what is going to happen tomorrow- if it is a dream character  it will not be correct.  It may not answer (just stare at you uncomprehendingly), or answer something that is wrong.  If it tells you that it doesn't know, it may be another projector, but if it tells you something that turns out to be true (real prediction) then you're looking at someone a little more advanced, like a guide.
Good luck with your explorations, and nothing is 100% sure.

urshebear

something I have learnt is that dream people and people in your focus two OBE make no sence at all and often have blank or confused looks on their faces when you attempt conversation. This is because they are nothing more than images...figments of the imagination...
However I do know that the deceased can enter your dream or focus two OBE....
I believe that if you can have a conversation with them where you both understand eachother, they are more than just a figment of the sub concious

Summerlander

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Quote from: charmsloo on February 16, 2011, 19:20:01
I still have yet to project, but I want to know what exactly is etheric projection. I have heard the term used, but dont know its difference from astral projection. Also would want to know more about spirit guides. Does your spirit guide come in an image you want it to? For instance every time I think of a spirit guide, I think of a human, but can you have like an animal or something like this....




Fixed your image tag :)  Hmmm... picture doesn't wanna load ~Xanth

Ethereal/Etheric projection - Here-now physical reality projection. Locale I.
Astral Projection - Metaphysical realm projection. Locale II.

Hi! An etheric/ethereal projection is what Robert Monroe termed as Locale I projections. In other words, when you separate from the body, it will seemingly be the here-now physical reality and no anomalies will be apparent.

This type of OOBE is very different from the astral projection or Locale II scenario. It is very disctinct in many ways. In the here-now, colours are usually duller compared to the bright colours of the metaphysical (during astral projection, it often seems like you are high on MDMA). Vision in Locale I can often seem like one is underwater whereby distant objects are perceived as hazy but nearby ones are highly defined.

Locale I projections tend to be perceived from a floating point of consciousness or a floating pair of eyes as opposed to the illusory body that resembles the physical one during Locale II. In Locale I, you may start to manifest a shadowy/transparent body. Locale I projections tend to be short-lived too before you either phase into Locale II or you return to the body.

Movement is also different in Locale I as you tend to shift gradually through frames of space at first, like mini-teleports as though you can't quite pinpoint where you are going to be (like mouse trails). Movement can be difficult until it eventually becomes more 'fluid'. You float here as opposed to the walking in Locale II...

Locale I is also peculiar in that you can feel the surface of objects like static without even touching them with your shadowy hands and yet you can go right through objects and there will be no interaction with the physical environment around you. In Locale II, however, you can usually touch objects and when you which to go through them, it usually feels like a gradual sinking feeling. In Locale II you usually start by walking or running before you decide to bend the rules and glide or fly away. Locale I and Locale II perceptions can overlap.

In Locale I it is also possible to teleport long distances. Apart from that, I think that is it. Oh yeah, by the way, you won't encounter any entities or characters in Locale I as opposed to Locale II where a wide range of weirdos can be encountered...LOL :-D