String Theory - Dimension = Maybe What we are focusing into?

Contenteo · April 23, 2011, 22:44:10

Just a thought.

String Theory has dimensions.
They are all layered on top of this one like focus levels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnkE2yQPw6s&feature=related

The 10th dimension is apparently other universe constructs and could be layered on ours.

Anyone think there is any correlation?

personalreality · April 23, 2011, 23:06:51

I think that is the natural speculation for metaphysical students like ourselves to make.

I have thought so myself. After studying string theory (amongst other theoretical physics fields), I am not so sure, but I can't really say.

Maybe "mind" is an actual dimension that we will measure some day. Perhaps not.

It's a neat idea nonetheless. Which is why I love physics. Tons of neat ideas with endless room to speculate. Super fun.

Bedeekin · April 23, 2011, 23:21:38

I think that consciousness is the 'forgotten' or overlooked dimension.

Physics or theoretical quantum jubbly is probably very important to the study of consciousness... or vice versa.

personalreality · April 23, 2011, 23:40:46

Quote from: Bedeekin on April 23, 2011, 23:21:38
Physics or theoretical quantum jubbly is probably very important to the study of consciousness... or vice versa.

that really is the desire that burns in the engines of physicists. they may not grasp the breadth of the investigation, but that's what they all really want. they want to know what it is. what all of it is. and better yet, why. the unanswerable question. makes me tingle just thinking about it. seriously, my heart center is welling up, oozing divine sparks. quite nice.

i suspect that a psychology and a more obscure, abstract form of physics will merge soon. i decided to pull the psych side because i'm better with the formless than with numbers. but i still study both because they are seeking to answer the same question. fun.

Bedeekin · April 23, 2011, 23:54:40

Do you think the sciences will combine... or rather that they need to combine to understand all this?

I rather think that science as it stands is like the fable of the Elephant and the Blind Men.

Quantum physics is the artistic creative side of science. It is poetic and so freaky and yet something inside me really resonates the more I think I understand. THINK being the operative word.

Xanth · April 24, 2011, 00:15:32

Quote from: Bedeekin on April 23, 2011, 23:54:40
Do you think the sciences will combine... or rather that they need to combine to understand all this?

I rather think that science as it stands is like the fable of the Elephant and the Blind Men.

Quantum physics is the artistic creative side of science. It is poetic and so freaky and yet something inside me really resonates the more I think I understand. THINK being the operative word.

"My Big TOE" by Thomas Campbell.
I'd highly suggest reading it if you haven't.

He's successfully combined the worlds of physics and metaphysics into a solid TOE (Theory of Everything) that actually proceeds to answer questions that have remained unanswerable by our "modern" day sciences.

Bedeekin · April 24, 2011, 00:19:36

You got me reading it ages ago on Astral Viewers. Superb.

Summerlander · April 24, 2011, 18:31:29

Link me to the book, damn it!

Contenteo · April 24, 2011, 19:04:32

Xanth, you just changed my world. I watched his lecture online.

Holy excrement. And yes now I know it is going to change my excrement to "excrement." I did that on purpose.

Man why? why doesn't this get more attention! dude.... dude...

Is there any group trying to document all those dimensions?

I guess I got an big answer to my post, I posted it for diarrhea and giggles as a neat correlation. but those guys....whole new level.

Oh so to answer my own question. The dimensions they are taking about in string theory are definitely not this.

Watch this - The 10th dimension-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

Anyone else who wants to see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxECb7zcQhQ

Bedeekin · April 24, 2011, 19:32:32

Then there's M-theory theory... which adds an 11th dimension.

Summerlander · April 24, 2011, 19:53:59

and the M-theory+1...which adds a 12th dimension.

Contenteo · April 24, 2011, 20:24:24

From what i understand,

It doesn't really matter how many dimensions you think there are as long as you have the first 10 right. This is because regardless of how many you say there are(over 10), that it signifies that you are limiting the number versus letting there be infinite dimensions. The rest of your model will be based on the construct of how many dimensions you believe there to start with. So thus there could be an infinite number of theories, or better said, it really doesn't matter how many dimensions you believe there are because regardless, the number is finite. You have to truly deconstruct the term infinity.

For an example and quick brainfu^k, we believe that our universe is infinite. However to reach the 8th dimension we have to imagine there could possibly be another infinite universe is possible to exist out there. And to construct the 9th, we have to believe that there is again an infinite number of infinite universe we can connect with and be able to fold to travel between them.

Moving on to the 10th, you can see how the word infinite could keep extending indefinitely, yet inclusively, with this pattern.

However, high your number of dimensions is, it will either be:
finite- which in that case there could be infinite theories
or infinite - which means we will have to construct a model to fulfill infinite possibilities

And to top it off it all seems to be bathed in probability.

As a next action I feel we should use our consciousness on getting our next handful dimensions on lock-down before we start acting like a bacteria in our intestine trying to understand the argument for whether Pluto is a planet or not. And for that matter how does that affect whether we will be graced with food or not in the near future.

Cheers,
Contenteo

personalreality · April 24, 2011, 22:26:14

*sigh*

Summerlander · April 25, 2011, 06:46:03

From the human perspective we can only see or understand as far as 10 because we are three-dimentional beings and we always have to use the 3D model of reality as reference. But the 10 dimensions view remains only a theory.

personalreality · April 30, 2011, 14:11:58

so far as i've experienced, reality beyond the third dimension is abstract and so it would be difficult (if not impossible) to nail it down with numbers. thus our brain is capable of intuitive reasoning, not just logical reasoning....

Summerlander · April 30, 2011, 18:04:52

Yes, left and right hemispheres...

Even so, I think our infinite conscious potential is narrowed down to a finite one in this human form. In other words, I postulate that the brain, a wonderful tool, is merely a developing finite expression of the immensity of consciousness...and it is only just one form of what it can be, by the way. I get the feeling that consciousness is indeed the ground of all being...

Materialists...you can now sue me for making such a claim...

personalreality · May 01, 2011, 22:36:13

i agree.

Summerlander · May 02, 2011, 15:31:56

Contenteo · May 06, 2011, 02:29:49

That's a wonderful thought Summer. Thx.

People think the consciousness serves the brain, when maybe, it was the brain that was built for the consciousness.

That's almost as outside of the box as you can get

personalreality · May 06, 2011, 17:44:12

that's only outside of the materialist (in a physics connotation) box.

for true researchers of consciousness, that fits nicely into the box, or the non-box.

Summerlander · May 07, 2011, 09:51:43

Yes. A good book to check out, full of scientific experiments to illustrate the great points it makes, is Physics of the Soul by Amit Goswami. One of them is the double-slit experiment. the one with electrons.

personalreality · May 07, 2011, 10:03:31

I'll echo on Amit Goswami. I have some of his books like "self-aware universe". He brings that Hindu/India perspective to quantum physics which everyone loves right? I do.

Summerlander · May 07, 2011, 11:02:39

Yes, it's nice. Very tasty. Science meets spirituality.

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