Charging chakra?

[Razputin]

Could it have been a hypnagogic hallucination? The imagery, could it have been manifested from expectation on an unconscious level? You must have read about Chakkras prior to that experience surely. Can you walk me through exactly what you did in minute detail? Please do it.

I realized I could make myself feel things by just trying. I theorized about consciousness and it's relation to the subconscious. I came to the conclusion that we become more conscious (less sub) as we grow into adults. I realized that anything subconsciously done, you can learn to do consciously

if you try to just make yourself feel something, you usually feel it in your stomach chest area. if you look at an image of the chakras after the fact (like I did) you will realize these ate your 3rd and 4th chakras. if you actually do it, recognize the feeling happening on it's own during your life, and do a little guesswork (like where 90% of your serotonin is located) you'd realize that you are messing with your serotonin



if you charge it up hard, you will feel all of your chakras and your palms may start to vibrate. I came to here a long time ago when this started happening (my name was waygie. the acc and all of my threads got deleated for some reason) and someone told me what that was

this was all with zero prior knowledge. I call them chakras so people will know what I'm talking about

[Razputin]

I don't believe in Chakkras altogether. Also, the gods in Hinduism are symbolic to me. They simply represent forces of nature. Nothing else. Anyway, can anyone tell exactly what you do in order to experience these so-called Chakras? I don't doubt that you guys experience anything. I'm just not convinced that what you guys experience is Chakras.

get a workout high. do 40 pushups or something. do you feel that good feeling in your chest? make it stronger

you've just worked with your chakras

[Summerlander]

That's not proof that chakkras exist though, is it? come on, man. Get real! LOL 

[Tee1234]

I don't believe in Chakkras altogether. Also, the gods in Hinduism are symbolic to me. They simply represent forces of nature. Nothing else. Anyway, can anyone tell exactly what you do in order to experience these so-called Chakras? I don't doubt that you guys experience anything. I'm just not convinced that what you guys experience is Chakras.

(chakras)well its not like you can open up a science book and find chakras. But I do think theres more to it and personally I think they play a huge part in an obe. I use them to induce the vibrational stage.

Let me explain- When I induce an obe I lay there comfortable/relaxed till my body goes numb. After a while, In those areas where the (chakras) are, they will start to pulsate/tingle. Like if I feel it more in my heart(heart chakra), Il focus on that untill it gets very intense and will usually lead to the vibrations coming for the obe exit. But sometimes, rarely but sometimes, I get to much energy in that one spot and instead of leading to the vibrations for the obe exit, it will get so intense that it almost feels like im going to have a heart attack. Which leads me to breathing real heavy and pounding in my chest that ruins the obe.

Another time il be tryn to induce an obe and il feel the energy in my head. Il focus on that and it will get intense and lead to the vibrations for an obe -or- it could get so intense and it feel like theres a bolt getting screwed so tight onto my head, its almost unbearable. My eyes start to water and I have to quit, which obviously ruins the experience.

And sometimes il get the pulsating in my groin area. Ill focus on it and it usually turns into the vibrations or to much energy in that spot could lead me into nuttn in my pants. -lol-Sounds goofy but its true. -anyway there all chakra spots.

Think about it, when the vibrations come for the obe exit all those chakras are vibrating as well. But its all balanced out which leads to an obe. But if you focus to much on one of those spots it wont work right and your outcome will be like one of my examples. Regardless, I believe there is something there that holds the energy whether you call them chakras or not. I guess you have to experience something like that to believe in its existence.

When you induce an obe do you aim for those vibrations or do you do the phase thing? The only way to even comprehend what im saying is if youve experienced the vibrational stage. I dont know if theirs actual chakras or not but I do believe there's something there that carries/holds energy.

If you do aim for the vibrations for an obe, pay attention to everthing when the vibrations hit. Other than the loud noise etc.. you can feel the flow of energy through your body where those supposed chakras are. So yeah i believe ..

[Razputin]

That's not proof that chakkras exist though, is it? come on, man. Get real! LOL 

you can make yourself feel excrement. if you look at a pic of the locations of chakras the excrement that you feel happens to be in those same areas

that's proof enough

[Summerlander]

Razputin, Razputin...

I can make my pupils dilate by dimming the lights...

I can also make myself feel better by making love to my wife.

You can also make yourself feel better by taking a walk down palm street.

All you've provided is proof that what you call chakkras is what others call excrement:

I call them chakras so people will know what I'm talking about

[Pauli2]

nonsense

[Summerlander]

nonsense

That's what I think...so far!

I'm still waiting for this exercise to feel the energy wheels that we have. They look like coloured flowers, do they? Do sprites and elves tender their flow too?

[Summerlander]

That's what I think...so far!

I'm still waiting for this exercise to feel the energy wheels that we have. They look like coloured flowers, do they? Do sprites and elves tender their flow too?

Please don't offer me this or I'll end up hypnotising myself:

Personally I don't charge my chakras, but I found this link, perhaps you can use it.

http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/healing/chakra-meditation-recharge.htm

[Xanth]

First things first... let's drop the personal insults please.  This is a place of education and learning.
Also, I'm noticing a severe increase in swearing on the Astral Pulse lately.  Thankfully, the auto filter takes care of most of it... but let's remember that the presence of the auto filter doesn't mean we condone such actions.

Let's try to clean things up a bit please.

Thanks everyone! 

[Pharoah]

Speaking of excrement, I'm reminded of a story. 

My fiance used to be friends with a guy who swore by this mystic lady who did all sorts of readings and whatnot.  Not really being a subscriber to that sort of thing, but not a total skeptic either, he (my fiance) spoke to her one day (over the phone) and to cut a long story short, she at one point mentioned to him that his solar plexus chakra was black.

Unbeknownst to her, he suffers from Crohn's Disease and has a stoma because of it.

I'm not saying that this is undeniable proof that chakras exist, but I personally have a hard time ignoring a 'coincidence' like that.

Just my $0.02...

[blis]

I'm still waiting for this exercise to feel the energy wheels that we have. They look like coloured flowers, do they? Do sprites and elves tender their flow too?

You project a lot right? Does declaring stuff tend to work for you?

You could try, "Now I experience my heart chakra." If you dont want to put the work in thats about the only quick way I can think of for you to experience them.

I've never seen a chakra but they feel very real. I've never felt anything else like a chakra.

I think the vibratory planes you are capable of reaching when out of body are partly affected by the activity of your chakras. It's my experience that's led me to think this.

[AstralBlogger]

I use a method of pulling my chakras and try to project that way.

it works and its easy to do.

[Tee1234]

You project a lot right? Does declaring stuff tend to work for you?

You could try, "Now I experience my heart chakra." If you dont want to put the work in thats about the only quick way I can think of for you to experience them.

I've never seen a chakra but they feel very real. I've never felt anything else like a chakra.

I think the vibratory planes you are capable of reaching when out of body are partly affected by the activity of your chakras. It's my experience that's led me to think this.

Absolutely, no doubt.
Everytime I have an obe I experience something going on with my chakras. Like I wrote, its basically the common method I use to get the vibrations. I relax and focus on the energy/feeling their giving off and sooner or later it brings the vibrations which lead to my exit.

As for Summerlander, Im surprised you dont experience this or something like this. Unless of course you do the "phase" thing, which I think is completely different but lets not go there.

Try it out. Nxt time you meditate or try to induce an obe focus on them. When you start to feel energy in an area where a chakra is -pay attention to it. Block out everything else except for that area that its comin from and inhance it. You might get an outcome like I said in my other thread- or it might lead you to the vibrations for an exit, if thats your goal. If that works -Great. Your nxt session aim for another chakra and repeat the process.

When I first started inducing obes It took a while. When I stumbled upon this method it was so much easier. I probably wouldnt suggest this method to a person that has never experienced an obe before but im assuming you have. Try it out and let me know what ya think. Im curious of the outcome. Quick tip- for me its easiest to set off the heart chakra. So aim for that. But go with the flow, if you feel energy building up somewhere else aim for that.

[Summerlander]

No, I don't do phasing...LOL

I do the nap method and project with ease without having to work with Chakkras. To me Chakkras are a waste of time.

[blis]

You can be doing energy/chakra work without even realizing it. All spiritual, metaphysical or medative practices are using energy and chakras in one way or another. So are physical ones come to think of it.

You dont need to consciously work on them to make progress but I certainly wouldnt call them a waste of time.

[Summerlander]

But that's the thing though...what you guys call "experiencing the Chakras" I regard as something else! I'll tell you guys something. I have reached a violent vibrational state many times to the point where I feel like something drilling into my spine and the vibes can be so intense as to gradually shift me out of body. But I don't think this is to do with Chakras at all...

I think it has more to do with the fact that our spinal cords are part of the central nervous system. The spine sends lots of signals between the brain and the rest of the body and brings about many sensations...one of which is sleep paralysis, for example, which is started by the very physical mechanism which causes muscle atonia. Motor neurons are inhibited in the spinal cord by signals from certain parts of the brain, like the pons and the medulla oblongata.

The Chakras are such an old Hindu concept that goes as far back as the Upanishads. I can't understand why people are still holding on to this when it's something that was thought about aeons ago. There is no evidence for their existence. People used to believe the world was flat too. Now we live in a scientific age and today even some of the stuff that Einestein postulated is thought to be incorrect. Just because old religious books say this and that doesn't make it so. They are only a way of looking at things from belief...not knowledge.

This is why I don't understand why people speak of chakras here as though they are sure they exist. A person can be hypnotised into believing that they are experiencing anything. States of suggestibility can do that. In meditation where you "quieten" the mind. A young child may experience nightmares and believe that monsters are real because in dreamland they felt real. I've been experiencing many OOBEs for about three years now, some with so-called "validations", many giving some insights into the complexity of consciousness, many hint that there's more to reality than meets the eye, but most of these experiences bring more questions than answers and I think they have a lot more in common with dreaming than anything else.

I don't mean to get defensive but I have grown to be very pragmatic when it comes to these things and I see a lot of excrement (and I really typed excrement) being posted and talked about these days. Pretty soon religions will be asking for donations if people want their auras and chakras "clean"...or if people want to rid themselves of demons all they have to do is join and pay...

That's what I see and think. This needs to stop in my opinion. Instead of taking what has been written by an arse-wiper donkey's years ago as gospel, why not look at the OOBE phenomenon from a fresh perspective? Find things out for yourself. Discard Chakras. Start afresh! Okay?

[Stookie_]

I've felt chakras before I knew what they were. No, you don't have to do anything with them to AP. But they have their function, and if you experience them, you can manipulate them. But it's common to experience them while projecting. My throat and brow chakra tend to be very active and the sensations are unmistakable.

I'm not saying everyone has to experience these things, but I don't think it's fair to say it's BS because YOU don't experience them. That's the way most people speak of AP itself.

Find things out for yourself. Discard Chakras. Start afresh! Okay?

I did and I found chakras.

[Xanth]

I think the question should really be: are you experiencing "Chakras" because that's what you're actually experiencing OR are you experiencing "Chakras" because that's what the scriptures/Hindu's/whatever tell you that is what you're experiencing?  <-- either question is impossible to answer really.

What makes the Hindu belief in chakras any more or less relevant than any other thought regarding what these "sensations" really are?
What makes "Chakras" the only possible answer?

Find things out for yourself. Discard Chakras. Start afresh! Okay?

While Summerlander might not have meant it in the way that I'm taking this... this is actually the absolute BEST suggestion anyone can possibly give here on the Astral Pulse.

Find out things for yourself!  The only way you can begin to do that is by putting aside all concepts, old and new alike.  Put them all aside and just experience.  You don't need to classify or categorize your experiences.  You don't need to say "well this was obviously a Chakra!".  Do your own experiments free from that kind of limiting thought. 

You don't need to re-write the book... you only need to re-write YOUR book. 
Because in the grand scheme of things, YOUR book is the only one that matters.

[Summerlander]

Xanth said it all.

Look, if you want to believe in Chakras, that's fine, really. But for some people such sensations are something else. In general, I've seen so many contradictory things around and that has made me want to find things out for myself and discard anything that I might have come across which doesn't resonate with me or sounds like empty theories.

For example...I haven't even read any OOBE books apart from Robert Monroe's Journeys Out of Body and I'm still halfway through Far Journeys. They seem to be very good and interesting books but I wouldn't have just accepted Monroe's "Locale I" and "Locale II" unless I had experienced such distinctions beforehand (which I did).

I would also take into account Kepple's observations as they are spot on. His description of the "Focus 1 oC" (the Here-Now Projection) is exactly what I have experienced on a few occasions. Astral Projection is more recurrent, though. For Michael Raduga at www.obe4u.com everything is considered as the "phase" (OOBE/AP/LD) and the Here-Now projection is thought to be a mere simulation of the physical realm. This is valid too. It's ways of looking at things. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

It's just different ways of looking at things. It's like watching a very confusing movie or eating marmite. People will have different opinions and interpretations but we have all experienced the same phenomena.

[Pauli2]

Summerlander, u are 2 much attacking the concept of chakras, and that's not the purpose of the thread.

[Xanth]

This is a "discussion" on Chakras, not an attack.
We're discussing the possibility of their being a fundamental reality.

In all honesty though, it'll become and endless debate.

Are the Hindu's correct in their original assertion regarding these supposed "energy centers"?
Does it really matter?  I mean, if the idea of these energy centers assists you, then as a tool, they're great and every bit as fundamental as astral projection. 

[CFTraveler]

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In all honesty though, it'll become and endless debate.

Are the Hindu's correct in their original assertion regarding these supposed "energy centers"?
Does it really matter?  I mean, if the idea of these energy centers assists you, then as a tool, they're great and every bit as fundamental as astral projection.  

To switch sides for a bit, it's interesting to note that Paramahansa Yogananda once said that the notions that the ancients had of the chakras was actually their way of talking about the endocrine system, as in the glands that go in the general 'place' of each.  He even said that the sushumma was the same as the spinal cord, IIRC.
Of course, this was in the early twentieth century, in those "gee whiz" times where materialism was cool.
I'll have to double check my 'facts', but I'm almost sure it was him.

[blis]

I'm fine with people not believing in stuff that I do but it's the undertones that we're fooling ourselves that irk me.

If it was a conclusion come to after working with chakras for some time and there was some insight as to why they might not be real I could respect that. But equating our beliefs and experiences to elves and fairies because we cant prove it is a little insulting frankly.

[Firmitas]

Find out things for yourself!  The only way you can begin to do that is by putting aside all concepts, old and new alike.  Put them all aside and just experience.  You don't need to classify or categorize your experiences.  You don't need to say "well this was obviously a Chakra!".  Do your own experiments free from that kind of limiting thought. 

You don't need to re-write the book... you only need to re-write YOUR book. 
Because in the grand scheme of things, YOUR book is the only one that matters.

I couldn't agree more. Just how you need to put your concepts and belief systems aside, I feel like trying to prove whether or not something is "real" is an earthly concept that can only damage our spiritual progression (isn't that why we are all here in the first place?). From my personal experience, doubt is the first and largest roadblock in the road to enlightenment. Being the negative ego's we are, naturally by trying to prove whether or not something is "real", we are going to instantly look for reasons as to why it HAS to be imaginary.
Put everything to side, and stop looking for "proof" because its just going to run away from you.

Also it is my personal belief that we are all of the same source, and I know we all have those areas that we don't like and wish to change, so lets stop attacking ourselves when someone says something that we don't like ya?

As far as the original post goes, I've had some luck listening to binaural beats and focusing on each chakra, starting from the root, until you reach the crown. Wait until you can feel the root chakra pulsate and try to keep it going. Then move to the next one while simultaneously keeping the root chakra energized/pulsating. Before you know if you will be at your crown chakra with all 7 main chakras pulsating. This is also good because it keeps your mind focused on your etheric body and you might just be in a trance by this point.
Good luck!!

P.S.
I dont know what the Pulse's policy is on this so Im sorry if I break any rules. I am in no way suggesting that this be done but, I always have a much easier time energizing my chakras after a little visit from my green friend. I wouldn't suggest it every time because it kind of limits yourself. Its good every once and a while but its better to challenge yourself.

-Firmitas