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NickisDank

Ok so this week has been a great week for me and my nonphysical experiences, dreams and dreams where I became lucid since I'm still practicing a full conscious experience. But all week I've been experiencing the same thing, probably on 4 separate occasions this week I was lucid, so

Whenever I find myself lucid around my house this week I would attempt to walk through any object that was close to me, some occasions it was doors while others would just be solid walls. But there would be times where I'd end up getting through the object and it literally feels like someone picked me up and put me right back on the other side of the object. Then also there were times where I would literally get stuck halfway through a door or wall and it would feel like out of nowhere I would get pulled right back out.

I'm aware your intent has everything to do with it, but i don't know how much intent it takes to fly or walk through a door other than just doing it. Idk what to ever try to expect other then just what's in reality on the other side or just a whole new scene to begin with.

I've also had the same thing happen to me with jumping through mirrors in my home, for example I have w decent sized hallway and at the end of it is a mirror, when I was lucid once i took a running start and jumped into it and experienced a very brief falling motion and could really see anything and then was thrown right out of the mirror to the start of the hallway.

What do you all think?

Under_the_Midnight_Sun

 I used to have the same problem.
The best thing to do is go through the object backwards.. this way the subconscious mind can't get in the way

NickisDank

Going through everything backwards? Idk because everytime I've ever walked through something I just go forward with an open mind, that's all it takes right?

Does anyone else have any thoughts about this? Specifically the mirrors, and getting reset on the other side of the object that I just walked through.

blis

I'm inclined to think there may be something more to it than just expecting to go through or get stuck. Dont know what though.

I've gone through loads of walls. I know I can do it. I rarely doubt I'll be able to. But sometimes things are just solid. Or maybe it's me thats solid. I guess that would make more sense. Like maybe it depends on whether I happen to have a "body" or not at that time.

Has anyone ever looked at their arm and put it through a wall while looking at it?

NickisDank

That sounds like a pretty good experiment to try, I think I'm going to try it


The past 3 nights now I've literally found myself lucid for a minute or so and I was in some really weird situations, so since i ignored totally what was going on in the dream I found myself spontaneously yelling to be taken to a beach. I'd close my eyes and try to picture a senory and the next thing I know I felt like I was being pulled literally inward to the image I was picturing. It felt like a pulling/lifty feeling, I for some reason stopped all 3 events only to the fact of thinking I was taking to long

Thoughts anyone? What should I do

blis

Sounds like you'll be successful if you just stop thinking it's taking too long.

If you want to speed it up you might try pulling energy through your brow chakra while you visualize it. That often helps me will stuff into existence.

You could try doing it with you eyes open. That way you're less likely to get bored if it takes a while.

You could also try looking at something reflective. Like I picked up a painting once in a dream that had glass over the front of it. Instead of looking at the painting I angled it so the glass was just reflecting light. While looking into the glare an image slowly started to take shape. The more real it got the more I started to get sucked into it. Felt just like phasing but from a dream environment.

You could also try closing your eyes and flying through the nearest wall with the expectation that when you come out on the other side you will be at the beach.

NickisDank

Quote from: blis on May 12, 2011, 05:02:50
Sounds like you'll be successful if you just stop thinking it's taking too long.

If you want to speed it up you might try pulling energy through your brow chakra while you visualize it. That often helps me will stuff into existence.

You could try doing it with you eyes open. That way you're less likely to get bored if it takes a while.

You could also try looking at something reflective. Like I picked up a painting once in a dream that had glass over the front of it. Instead of looking at the painting I angled it so the glass was just reflecting light. While looking into the glare an image slowly started to take shape. The more real it got the more I started to get sucked into it. Felt just like phasing but from a dream environment.

You could also try closing your eyes and flying through the nearest wall with the expectation that when you come out on the other side you will be at the beach.

all those sounds great, but i have a question if you do it with your eyes open for example "Take me to a beach, NOW" what is going to happen thats already around me? just shatter and be in a black void for a moment till a beach appears? lol

NickisDank

Can someone respond to my post above and what I have to say in this one?

I became lucid in a random dream last night, I was outside a local supermarket in town and i was walking with one of my friends which I was paying no attention to at the time. I Remember what blis said so I tried to find the nearest thing to walk through which at the time was the supermarket wall, as me and my friend were walking I stated "take me to the beach" and tried walking through the wall, which ended up being solid in the end. Once i felt it was solid I was confused then the next thing I know my friend says "hahaha did you really think that was going to work?" i didn't say anything and ended up opening the door to what I thought was a supermarket, when i went in it was just full of random hallways and a bunch of random people I've seen and some close friends. The experience ended

I also asked my friend if he had any dreams that night, he said he didn't remember.

Thoughts pleaseeee!

Xanth

Quote from: NickisDank on May 15, 2011, 16:25:36
all those sounds great, but i have a question if you do it with your eyes open for example "Take me to a beach, NOW" what is going to happen thats already around me? just shatter and be in a black void for a moment till a beach appears? lol
I doubt it would "shatter"... it might fade to black, then fade back in.  I'd suggest keeping your eyes closed though, allow the "behind the scenes" action to happen.  You'll, no doubt, feel a "shift" then you'll be where ever it was you wanted to be.  :)

Quote from: NickisDank on May 17, 2011, 18:20:10
Can someone respond to my post above and what I have to say in this one?

I became lucid in a random dream last night, I was outside a local supermarket in town and i was walking with one of my friends which I was paying no attention to at the time. I Remember what blis said so I tried to find the nearest thing to walk through which at the time was the supermarket wall, as me and my friend were walking I stated "take me to the beach" and tried walking through the wall, which ended up being solid in the end. Once i felt it was solid I was confused then the next thing I know my friend says "hahaha did you really think that was going to work?" i didn't say anything and ended up opening the door to what I thought was a supermarket, when i went in it was just full of random hallways and a bunch of random people I've seen and some close friends. The experience ended

I also asked my friend if he had any dreams that night, he said he didn't remember.

Thoughts pleaseeee!
The interesting part of that dream is the response from your friend.  It wasn't "omg what the hell are you trying to do!?"... instead it alluded to the fact they knew what you were trying to do.  :)

In any case, the inability to do something like that while in the non-physical, I believe, usually means a subconscious perception or thought that you need to get past.  While you KNOW you were projecting, you might still have had a subconscious belief that you "can't" do that.

Under_the_Midnight_Sun

Quote from: NickisDank on May 11, 2011, 17:21:34
Going through everything backwards? Idk because everytime I've ever walked through something I just go forward with an open mind, that's all it takes right?
The reason I mentioned this is because the part of "seeing" the obstruction can cause a subconscious reaction the projector is not even aware of. It's just a little trick that works incredibly well

Quote from: NickisDank on May 15, 2011, 16:25:36
all those sounds great, but i have a question if you do it with your eyes open for example "Take me to a beach, NOW" what is going to happen thats already around me? just shatter and be in a black void for a moment till a beach appears? lol
You would probably find yourself there either instantaneously OR you would enter a "black void" previous to the desired location(I've experienced both), but then again it depends on the projector and their expectations/subconscious expectations.

Quote from: NickisDank on May 17, 2011, 18:20:10
Can someone respond to my post above and what I have to say in this one?

I became lucid in a random dream last night, I was outside a local supermarket in town and i was walking with one of my friends which I was paying no attention to at the time. I Remember what blis said so I tried to find the nearest thing to walk through which at the time was the supermarket wall, as me and my friend were walking I stated "take me to the beach" and tried walking through the wall, which ended up being solid in the end. Once i felt it was solid I was confused then the next thing I know my friend says "hahaha did you really think that was going to work?" i didn't say anything and ended up opening the door to what I thought was a supermarket, when i went in it was just full of random hallways and a bunch of random people I've seen and some close friends. The experience ended

I also asked my friend if he had any dreams that night, he said he didn't remember.

Thoughts pleaseeee!
Just as Xanth said- it's interesting your friend commented on your trying to walk through the wall. It comes back to the subconscious mind. . . your friends may have been thoughtforms of your own creation. Deep down in your consciousness you expected not to go through the wall, and expected somebody to comment just as your friend did.

Seeleyj13

I have never had trouble going thru walls and objects. I simply don't worry about it and believe I can go through them. Approach things with full confidence. You are in control

personalreality

yea, i kept trying to jump through a door once and kept smashing into it. 

i asked for help and a discarnate voice said "close your eyes" (followed by more explanation that i can't remember, but basically it said i couldn't get over my belief of the solidity of the door if i could see it).

i closed my eyes, jumped again and made it through with no problem.
be awesome.

NickisDank

Thanx for all your responses guys, I'm def going to try everything everyone reccomended. I haven't had an experience since last so now I'm just hoping for something to happen this week.

Another question tho, Midnight pointed out that my friend could of been a thought form that I created for that experience specifically, is every single OBE always going to be like that or will I ever be able to actually be able to see what's actually in reality for that given moment. And talk to people that WILL remember me talking to them in that state?

Under_the_Midnight_Sun

Quote from: NickisDank on May 22, 2011, 17:40:41
Another question tho, Midnight pointed out that my friend could of been a thought form that I created for that experience specifically, is every single OBE always going to be like that or will I ever be able to actually be able to see what's actually in reality for that given moment. And talk to people that WILL remember me talking to them in that state?

hmm, in my opinion the OBE state is extremely subjective. I have never talked with somebody while out of body, and have had them remember it after. I've done experiments where a person can only tell me a number betw. 0-1000 when we meet. It seems that my subconscious just spits out a random number that has never been correct. . . yet.

Rudolph

Quote from: Under_the_Midnight_Sun on May 08, 2011, 18:09:27
I used to have the same problem.
The best thing to do is go through the object backwards.. this way the subconscious mind can't get in the way

I never really thought about till now but I have been using this trick instinctively -- and it works!
Beware the fake "seeker" who finds Truth to be abusive.

Synune

Well I have never had the luxury of being 100% percent in control during OBE's but I can say that I have experienced passing through things.

It definitely has to do with will, because there are times when I do not even feel myself passing through an object. In other words, it is not even there. Then there are times where I feel the sensation of passing through and it is sort of like water or liquid. I think passing through backwards is a great technique simply because we would never walk into a wall in real life without putting our hands up to protect our face. Just "do" it so to speak or picture the wall as something absorptive that is sucking you through until the other side.

The absorption method makes me feel as though I need to pass though and it feels like less of an objective to overcome, but something accepting you as you pass through.

Szaxx

Hi All,
It makes you think of pierro's wall (white faced mime artist). If this effect was part of an AP the suggestion of him not being able to pass this invisible barrier would impress on the subconcious to generate the same. Interesting enigma.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.