The mystery of Psi(onics)

[goingslow]

Psychic energy is juts another name for any other energy people describe in this forum.

In that case the sub navel is a place its stored.  Have you read astral dynamics?  Even there he says to store much of your energy in this area.  In fact its the only safe place to store it.

[Fat_Turkey]

Yes I know - I have the book. Raising energy into the sub-heart or sub-brow causes emotional and mental imbalance and disorder.

It's weird though because RB says that the sub-brow stores pure psychic energies but then again the chakras are responsible for psychic abilities but are connected mainly to the sub-navel....strange...

I'm not as confused as before though - thanks for feedback.

Later
-FT

[goingslow]

I know what you mean about the psionics though.  I've seen a little bit about it.  Just from what a few chatters put here.. i hesitate going to any of those sites.  

In most cases i've heard that term used they are talking about using the energy for "battle" purposes.  But I was trying to say I believe the energy used for that is the same we talk about here. Its just used for more manipulative purposes.  I mean manipulative in that they try to tap into it for a reason.  

[Fat_Turkey]

Yes I agree. Manipulating energy is also a lot easier than using it for fighting purposes. I believe we'll only really be able to fight with energy the day we really NEED to. Otherwise the only real energy combat you have is traditional martial arts, where you flow energy through your body as you fight to enhance yourself.

Well I just recently (half) solved the mystery for myself[].

Chi energy is just the use of more raw energy that vibrates at a "lower frequency" than Psi energy. Psi energy is closer to purer energy aspects and vibrates at a higher frequency. Psi also goes over a long distance most of the time so it recquires much more mental power and focus to use. I still believe they are interconnected and CAN convert from one to the other by use of the chakras (after all, chakras do change and condition energy, right?).

Later
-FT

[cainam_nazier]

I don't know, maybe it's just me.  BUT I have never felt or seen any differences in one energy from another.  Psi, Chi, Ki, and so on and on.  To me they are all the same.  They are just labels for the practising and/or usage of energy and not, well not to me, a different kind of energy.

As for your question.

Psionics more clearly defined, by me of course, is as follows.

The use and manipulating of energy to achieve a prestated goal.  This includeds the usage of energy to enhance or unlock certain secrets of the body as well as using it to effect objects or people.

I.E.  A person working on one of the telekinetic abilities would use energy to effect an object.  Make it move, hot, cold, what ever.  This however does not mean it is for battle purposes.  Me personally am more interested in the more practicle applications...like weilding.

Now a person working on telepathic skills would use energy to align thier body to achieve said goal.  Imagine not having to pick up a phone ever again.  That would be nice.


Now many of the sites you run across for this kind of activity "seem to" promote violance through energy manipulation.  However this is not true of ALL sites.  There are many who although teach combat usage do so only for the protection of the user.  This being because like with most things as soon as some one figures that they can do some thing they look to take advantage of others by using thier gift.


There are many purests out there like myself who are more interested in the study of this activity and its possability to enhance a persons life, not thier pocket.

[goingslow]

Actually by fighting with it they're manipulating it.

I dont think they're two separate types of energy though.. I think the energy is used for two different things.

I've seen a lot of the "energy for battle" type of stuff on these forums and at first i wasn't sure where that came from.
In a way I think its giving a purpose to all of this.  I mean some people can see the use unless they're going to fight some evil entity or evil "forces" at the end.  I dont agree with this.  I dont think it has to be dramatic or "in order to preserve the human race" in order to be worthwhile.

I think I can understand the big battle type of thinking though.  When I first started I thought the goal would be to move a spoon or an object with my mind.  Well after about a month I realized it was a way to validate this type of work.  More and more it doesn't have to be some big thing to work for.  I work for the individual steps.  For example the first time i had a minds eye vision i felt extreme happiness. To some little things like that dont mean anything.. I mean if you're coming here expecting to become a super human.  But really nothing compares to realizing there's something out there.. and not feeling the need to prove it to anyone else.

[David Staveley]

I think the meaning of Psi has changed over the short period of time the term has been in common usage. I'm wondering if Babylon 5 and the "Psi corp" had any influence on its popularity. For me, it means non-wooly psychic development that focuses on the development of skills for the sake of improving yourself, rather than aiming towards a particular use of those skills.

This is why I like it, because if you take ritual magic for instance, particularly theurgy of any sort, you summon something to do something for you, but you don't improve yourself, so I can't really see the point. At this point I will duck to avoid the wave of curses coming my way

It does seem now that Psi has become associated with combat and other forms of munchkin behaviour, but that is just a natural progrssion. As 'Psi' grows I imagine it will mean many more things to many more people.

[Fat_Turkey]

Hi.

I was recently just thinking about things when I realised that a lot of websites and books regard Psi as a phenomena. It's like remote viewing - nobody can really explain it. I find this whole thing called Psionics quite strange. It seems to me like some kind of New Age practice of energy, but then again it's a bit different.

I think that the practice of Psionics also led to that whole web-wide "cult"(for lack of a better word) of people who started teaching ki balls and mana shields and the like.

The question I'm asking here is can anybody put a label on this energy called PSI? Can anybody know what exactly it is? I always thought it was just psychic energies but the people on psipog.net draw energy from other sources such as the sub-navel. I'm just a little confused at the moment.

Any feedback will be appreciated

Later
-FT