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Sergeant Pepper

Well first of all I would like to say hello. I've been rummaging through this forum anonomously for some time now and I finally decided to join.

Now I've been having some problems with my astral travels. Honestly, it's been real annoying. I have been meditating for around a year and i learned of astral projecting around the same time. At the moment of finding out what it was, I instantly had a desire to pursue it... And im still pursuing it a year later. Since its summer I attempt to astral project any where from 2-5 times a day from waking up in the morning and attempting to afternoon and attempting then I try before I go to bed. In the beginning I had some groundbreaking moments where I dozed into a a very vivd dream and got out of it to find myself laying in my bed with large vibrations and loud roaring sounds in my ears... but I was inexperienced then and messed up the exit. I had a couple other moments like this and what appeared to be dreams of me astral projecting because my desire was so strong.

Now fast forward this to now and see me hitting a brick wall. My first experiences happened towards the first 2 months but ever since then ive felt no strong noises or vibrations or really any improvement. With my meditations of anapanasati and vipassana, I've had an extreme familiararity with keeping my mind my silent (to a certain extent) and what appears to be the hypnagogic state. I normally get visuals and dream like sequences quite frequently. My problems seems to be that my body really gets into no trance like state. I mean it gets less noticable and slightly heavy but I also can lay down for an hour or more and get nothing. My relaxation methods do get me relaxed because of my constant meditation but not in sleep paralysis or any other heavy trance. Even after an hour i can just stand up and my body just feels relaxed.

After about 5-10 minutes I get the color blobs floating around my closed eyelids, around 15-20 minutes i should start seeing dreamlike states but these are quite hazy for me as im almost asleep and if i enter one of these for too long i seem to pass out into sleep. Now some people say they can enter F10 or sleep paralysis after 10-25 minutes. I dont understand because it seems i can lay there for an hour and my body seems less noticable but even after all that time i can move it with no numb feeling or anything that would say my body was asleep. After an hour (sometimes less) I may get some very slight vibrations and tingly feeling( kind of like goosebumps when someone sings real well and hit a really high note) but my body isnt really in a trance that i can do any method because my physical body is still so prevalent. I swallow my saliva occasionally im not sure if that has anything that can prevent any trance like state or sleep paralysis. For the record, my dreams are extremely vivid and crazy so sometimes I find myself in lucid dreams but not that often. Even when I do have one I can never really do what I want in them.

Im just at a point where im sad and annoyed at making no progress and investing all of this time with nothing to show for it. So please can you guys give me some good advice to pul through this year long slump.

Also can someone tell me how Im supposed to feel my astral hands climbing a rope? I can picture this and slightly feel how a rope should feel but im never in a deep enough trance to lose the feeling of physical body so I always feel myself lying on my bed and no climbing.

Thanks

Lionheart

 I don't have the strong vibrations or loud noises anymore either. It's much easier to phase without all the bells and whistles. You can't just wait for something to happen. You need to jump start it yourself. Pick 3 destinations you would like to go too. Start messing with the visualizations of seeing them, then just let the images go where they wish. I had a time a couple of weeks ago where I just went to do a OBE and waited to see what happened. Well, after 2 hours in the same position, nothing happened.
I used train people in sales years ago. I would tell new Salespeople that it would take me 3 weeks to find out if they could do this work. The first week was "New Person Enthusiasm", which is they were so excited to be doing something new that there enthusiasm drove them to success. The 2nd week was "Training", the people had the enthusiasm plus the skills to succeed with the job. The 3 week I called the "Know it all", this was when they had lost alot of the enthusiasm and were going off of pure knowledge. This is where most people failed, they were like a walking library. I would point out something they had done wrong and they would say "yes I know", but they wouldn't take any constructive critique at all. I found that when I first started out with this Astral Travel, that I had fallen into the 3rd week dilemma as well. I had lost intent and just took an attitude of let's see what happens tonight. Now, I make a goal for each session and it becomes alot easier.

Sergeant Pepper

Thanks for the reply Lionheart. Actually its only been quite recently that I started to attempt phasing. I first read about it from Robert Monroes accounts with a lot of excellent info from this site. I do have some questions regarding it:

I've heard different ways on how some people phase... some say they see a tunnel, or say theres a door that leads into a scene, and others say its like there are movie screens that pass by their view. I may be slightly confused on what to do. So you say to visualize and do these visualizations start off as a type of reanactment and then do they soon take shape into a full scene where ill be totally engrossed into the moment where I'll then be astral projecting? Is that a phase? Does the other visuals im experiencing have anything to do with phasing into a scene or would they just be considered hypnagogic images?

Also, is there a specific reason as to why some people lose the feeling of the strong vibrations or sound while others still retain them?

Lionheart

 I start out with just the 3 places. For example, a city street a mall and a beach. I will focus on them one at a time, just seeing the scene itself, then I will try to join the scene. After a few minutes if nothing has occurred unexpectedly then I move on to the next scene. It is when something starts to happen that you didn't imagine, that things start getting interesting.
Why we lose the violent vibrations after a while I have no idea. I could just summarize that maybe it has to do with the first time sticking out to us. Really catching our attention. Or perhaps it has to do with frequency, once our body has adjusted to the frequency then it becomes easier for us to adapt to it.

Sergeant Pepper

Alright thanks ill definently try this out during my next attempt. Is this kind of the same way some people say to change your perspective from youself lying on your bed to at the end of your bed and you'll end up standing there?