Multiple Points of Consciousness/ Unable to reenter body

[mjolnir_knight]

Hello, fellow AP'ers.  It's been awhile since I've dabbled in AP, and have recently attempted to again.  This post may be a little long, but I'm really concerned and someone taking the time to read it would be greatly appreciated.
I've managed a full conscious exit only a handful of times in my life.  Most of my experiences have been from lucid dreams.  These conscious exits were years ago and since then, I had quit practicing from lack of results and from a few scary experiences that I think are related to what is going on now.  There was a demon that appeared shortly after my first successful projection.  It took months for me to see it.  At first, he would walk around downstairs.  Open and shut cabinet doors.  Turn the television on.  It is only me, my mother, and my dog in the house and I am 100% positive that this was not an intruder (the first few times I heard footsteps, I grabbed my .45 and checked the house) or her or the dog because every time I looked, both her and the dog were in her room with the door closed.  I was terrified to continue to project, that I might see this demon completely unveiled in the spiritual realm.  I finally saw it appear at the foot of my bed.  It was blacker than black.  Two dimensional, with claws, fangs, and glowing red, lifeless orbs instead of eyes.  It did not speak to me, merely stared at me.  This was all a matter of years ago.
Several months ago, I was smoking (weed) with a friend.  I have anxiety issues and it always seemed to help.  This one time in particular, I managed to black out from full waking consciousness.  I felt separated from my body, like I was slightly ahead of myself, but experiencing both my astral and physical body at the same time, and yet my ability to act would switch rapidly between the two.  I was stuck partly out of my body and yet in my body at the same time.  According to my friends who witnessed this, it appeared that I blacked out repeatedly and went into seizures.  I stumbled around, muttering nonsense.  My eyes would suddenly roll back in my head and I would fall to the ground.  Then get back up and it would happen over again.  This went on for two hours.  During this whole period, it felt as if something was holding me partly outside of my body and I was fighting to regain control.  Everything happened so fast that I don't remember it well but the next thing I knew I was in the emergency room with a concussion, bruised ribs, bruised vertebrae, sprained neck, sprained jaw, various lacerations and contusions.  I thought it was just the weed having a negative effect with my anxiety issues.  I've stayed away from it since.
Which brings me to recently.  Two nights ago, I managed to project (almost) again.  It was the quickest conscious projection I have ever managed (about five minutes).  I managed to get my upper torso and right arm out of my body.  I experienced a split point of consciousness again (one from my physical body, and one from my astral body) and suddenly it felt as if my astral body was being pulled away from the physical.  It was much more powerful than floating out.  I was being dragged out.  I panicked, and tried to reenter my physical body.  I was stuck again.  My upper torso and right arm were outside of my body, and yet I was experiencing both points of view.  I began to have a panic attack when I physically stood up, with my astral body still partly out of my physical, and tried to shake myself around, slapped my face a few times.  It took about a minute this time to "merge" my two points of consciousness. 
My question to anyone who is experienced, do you think that this demon/ shadowman is related to me being unable to merge back with my physical body?  Is something trying to possess me and keep me out of my body?
I have spoken to several demonologists, and they believe that there is an evil entity related to this.  Two of them were practicing energy gathering exercises and he was showing me one where he used my energy to direct it back into my hand so I could experience it.  He got shaky, and backed off and told me to remind him to never touch my energy again.  One of my friends said he was unable to see a distinct color in my aura.  He said it looked more like someone had taken a glass tube and blown a thick, black smoke into it.  This same friend took a picture of me sitting in a chair through the reflection in a glass.  I wasn't sitting in the chair!  He then had another friend sit in the same chair, and took a picture through the reflection in the same window and my friend was able to be seen sitting in the chair.The demonolgist that I spoke to has a daughter who is very highly empathetic.  When I approached him and her, his daughter got extremely edgy and teared up (before I had spoken a word to him) and she ran away.  He later told me that she felt extreme anguish and had a vision of me as a small child in a small room that resembled a bathroom, clinging onto a cabinet and something was trying to drag me away.  She avoided me the whole time I was speaking to him.
Can anyone tell me what is going on?  I'll admit, I'm terrified and this problem is bigger than I am.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Orion-]

Ah, the shadowman.

Demonologists will always try to scare you with their silly stories. In the astral your perception is very important. If you are afraid and think evil entities are trying to haunt you, then you might just imagine this happening and it will happen.

Being afraid of the unknown is what's happening here. Because of this fear you created a scary image, and then scared yourself with it. Because you got even more scared at that point you made it bigger and bigger and bigger, etc.

What you should do next time you project is first of all have no fear. Nothing can hurt you, and it is not possible for something to take over your body. The reason you have problems merging back with your body is because you *think* something is trying to stop you. Know you can always go back and you will always be able to go back. Now, next time you project, do not have fear, do not panic. You will see this creature you're talking about. Know that it can't hurt you, and then ask it what it wants. Ask for it's intent, ask it what it is and where it came from. Maybe ask it to change it's looks. If you still don't like it, ask it to go away and leave you alone. If you still have problems with it, fill it with golden light or something like that.

[Lionheart]

 First off, try phasing, it's an easier transition to Astral Plane. You won't have to pull yourself out of your body, you will just be there. On the demon thing, I once had a friend years ago that had a problem related to possible possession. She was told to focus on the the words EEEEEEEEEEEEE, AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, OOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH (the ohh is pronounced as oooh) as she went to sleep. She was also told to this in waking by raising her arms to above her head to EEEEE, for AHHH she was to create an orb of light lowering down her body and then OOOhh was down to her legs. She was told to do this 3 times in secession. This supposed mantra dates back to the Sumerians and has been used and defined by many scholars/religions for years now. Even Merlin used it. It worked for her, hopefully it will work for you. Have faith in this, the mind is a powerful thing! I know this sounds like a bunch of mumbo jumbo, but it definitely worked for her and now she lives a much happier life. I like to look at things objectively first, but always try to keep an open mind. Look what we are doing now, does Science have a logical answer for it, not really, but we still know it's real ourselves and no one can prove it else wise.

[Everlasting]

 Entities can take control of your body when you're wasted on drugs or alcohol.

[schockstuhh]

Entities can take control of your body when you're wasted on drugs or alcohol.

why do you say that?

[Xanth]

Entities can take control of your body when you're wasted on drugs or alcohol.

Yeah... no...

Not sure where you heard that, but NOTHING can do that.  Nobody but YOU has the "key" to control your physical body.

[teddybear]

@mjolnir-knight

Hi. I have a lot of experiences similar to what you describe, and I've also seen things like this happening to others. I've seen it from a spiritual/energetic/astral point of view.

So...I think there is something bad that's got a hold on you. I will not use the term demon, because that is very unpresise and most often a misunderstanding. But you get the idea. You already know.

This does not mean you are a bad person. It just means something got to you. There are things you can do.

This may sound silly to some, but it is really not. There are dark "forces" around. There are also good "forces" around. Love, happiness, self worth and feelings like that both attracts the good forces and is a recognisable mark of the good forces. This means, fill yourself with theese good feelings, and you will attract good forces to help you. You can also contact someone who represent the good forces, like a priest. You can also try sending out a request for help from the good forces, mentally. Or you could try forming a clear intention of representing good.

It is quite likely that your anxiety problems are connected to this.

About the girls vision: She might be right. It is possible.

About demonologists: Tell them to stop playing with that. Most demonologists are doing really bad things, both to people and to the beings they call demons. And many of them mess up to the point where it has serious carmic consequenses for them, without understanding it.

So...that's the basics...if you want more info, just ask.

[pondini]

i would suggest getting your anxiety under control first. instead of seeing a demonologist (a word i never thought i'd type) you should see a good psychologist who has an understanding of metaphysical matters i.e. one who meditates, etc. (i believe there are more of them out there than you might think). personally, i think you have created this demon yourself. it's possibly a metaphor for your anxiety...? like i said, talk to a good psychologist.

on to this weed business...

the most powerful experience i've ever had came after a few hits of grass. to put it into perspective, i have had a kundalini rising, i've reached the void via meditation, had OBEs and LDs, but none of them were as profound.

like yourself, i also had an OBE and briefly blacked out, but my black out happened just moments after i felt the OBE coming on (i was told this later by a friend, otherwise i wouldn't have remembered it happening). however, the really intense stuff happened after the OBE. the only theory i can come up with is that pot somehow allows these types of events to flow when you have an open mind to metaphysical ideas. that theory sounds pretty weak, but it is all i can deduce from my experience and the 2-3 others i've heard about.


i wish you the best in getting your anxiety under control... i really feel that is very important.

be well:)

[jkjk8991]

Thats a very strange experience, I agree that this dark entity is most likely stemming from your own fears, its the reason I don't want to watch the movie "Insidious." I know if I get any idea in my mind, it can easily happen in an AP or dream. I'd try and go into your AP knowing that this thing will not be there, knowing that what you're doing is safe, and will be a good experience. IF this entity is still there, I'd recommend facing it, asking it what it is doing there, and possibly to take another form, or to leave you alone.

the only theory i can come up with is that pot somehow allows these types of events to flow when you have an open mind to metaphysical ideas. that theory sounds pretty weak, but it is all i can deduce from my experience and the 2-3 others i've heard about.
be well:)

I remember one day I was watching video on youtube and all sorts of sites on astral projections, I found all the signs like vibrations and all this stuff. It was when I was first really getting into it. Later that night I decided I'd watch a movie, to make the movie a little more interesting, I smoked a little bit and sat down in my favorite lounging chair. Probably around 15 minutes into the movie I noticed my legs giving in to this feeling of sleep paralysis, I closed my eyes briefly and it was like I never wanted to open them again. My body fell extremely deep into sleep paralysis, and I felt as if I was in the shell of my body, noticing all these things occurring. I didn't know what to do at the time in terms of exiting so I sat there paying way too much attention to the vibrations and my physical body, but it was certainly the deepest in trance I've ever been.
This was on accident, but it kinda gave me an idea of what it felt like to be under sleep paralysis. Since then I've been meditating and such, but every time I smoke with friends I always notice these things like my feet falling asleep or getting a very strong urge to move constantly. It almost seems to me that the stuff was made for AP, except the memory loss haha. The buzzing feeling is just your muscle relaxing to the point where they're about to fall asleep, even my eyelids just become heavy and I end up looking a different ethnicity for the rest of the night. Not condoning it, simply stating similarities and my own experience. Meditation and controlled OBE's is what I'm looking for.

[mjolnir_knight]

Well, this sure is a lot of information.  Thanks, guys.  I think this thing us under control.  I got a lot of different perspectives (spoke with about eight people).  The "experts" on this situation gave me a few items, and covered a broad "spectrum", if you will, of religions.  Banishing candle (the guy who made it said that what he used in it to get rid of this thing was equivalent to using five pounds of C4 to blow up a toy car), concave mirror, crystals from the dead sea, cleansing herbs, lapis stone, dream catcher, rosary, crucifix, holy water, bible... it was like christmas.  I managed to confirm with about four people that it was indeed a negative entity.  One of them actually spoke with it and got a much different reaction from when my more novice friend did.  He claimed that it nearly ticked itself in fear (the time he told me when he spoke to it coincided very closely to when I saw this thing last in my room and suddenly it was gone and there was actually peace in the house).
Most of my anxiety issues have actually cleared up since all these measures were put into place (and I've had anxiety, post traumatic stress disorder, depression, flashbacks, you name it for nearly three years now).  I do see a psychiatrist and psychologist fairly regularly.  No, I don't have any schizophrenic conditions or anything severe like that.
I was all up for AP'ing and going after this thing with an M240 Bravo, or a Browning M2 but they recommended trying milder measures first.  Lol.  Granted, they said that if this didn't work, then it would have to be handled astrally.  But so far, so good.  Two nights in a row that this thing hasn't bothered me, and two days without medication and still no anxiety, flashbacks, or depression.  (And I was on a good amount of anti-anxiety meds, too.)
Anyway, I appreciate all the information given.  I'm trying to take everything I see/hear into consideration on how to continue to handle this or deal with it if it comes back.
MjolnirKnight

[teddybear]

@mjolnir_knight

I am so glad to hear this

I wish you all good things in your life from now on

It would be really nice if you came back with an update on how things are going some time