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SirMike

Ok so I have been trying to do astral projection for about 2 weeks now, and every time I do this (which is like 2 times to 4 times a day, this is done in the morning btw) I do breath counting, so I do 100 breathes and then my body goes numb and then my breathing gets really heavy and I start to feel as if I'm falling or my body is moving foward.. in a way  :? so when I reach the part where I try and visualize the room next to me, or any room for that matter, I cant get it to work!

Also during my session I get twitches (like my muscles twich in random spots) and itches!!  :-( Can someone tell me how I can control this and a good technique that would work for me??

I have been trying the rope technique for a little bit but I can't get that to work, I have also tried the technique where you try and roll over so the pushing makes your astral body come out, or something like that :P So I just do 100 breath counts then visualize the room next to me (like my bathroom) and supposedly that will make you float out of your body and astral project!

Can someone please tell me whats going on lol! I'm not sure if its normal or if its just me ._.

SirMike

Also I will feel as if my left arm is floating, like it doesn't even have weight on it or anything o_O

I'm getting close!!  :roll:

Xanth

You sound anxious and impatient.  :)
But that's okay... cause most people start there.

First things first!  You can alleviate some of your problems by practicing upon waking from sleep or a nap.
Now, assuming you don't want to or can't do that... you're gonna need to learn to meditate, and the first step in that is learning to stop the interruptions from happening in your mind.

What follows is a post by Tom Campbell to one of his forum members, and I think his response is more than accurate enough to assist you as well.  :)
QuoteYou need to learn to meditate consistently first before trying more complex things, no wonder you are frustrated. Some how we have to calm that mind down or figure out a way to keep it occupied with non-operational non analytical fluff.

    sound: Breathe normally but slowly, you can't meditate holding your breath. Listen for the mantra while you inhale (breath in)(like listening for the thunder), Then hear the sound of the mantra in your mind while you exhale (breathe out), immediately listen for it again during the next incoming breath, then hear it again while exhaling, etc. As soon as any thoughts intrude, Gently (casually) put them side and begin listening and hearing again with the next breath — always breathing smoothly and slowly. keep this up. for just 5 minutes — set a timer or an alarm. when that gets easy lengthen it to 10 minutes, when that gets easy lengthen it to 20 minutes and then to a half hour. Do this at least several times a day (more when the times are short). EVEN IF THE IF THE LISTENING AND HEARING ONLY LAST A MICROSECOND BEFORE BEING INTERRUPTED, KEEP IT UP, JUST GENTLY AND CALMLY BUT FIRMLY PUT THE THOUGHTS ASIDE AS SOON AS YOU NOTICE AN INTERRUPTION AND THEN GO BACK TO LISTNING AND HEARING. Just do it with no expectations – we are not trying to meditate yet, first we must minimize those interruptions — that's all, forget meditation for now — we are only trying to minimize the interruptions.
    If you keep at it, the time between interruptions will grow – even if it grows from one microsecond to two microseconds, stick with it and it will continue to grow. After three months of multiple times a day, you should notice some progress. At that time, if the interruptions have slowed enough, report in and we will go to step 2

    Sight: Same as above except instead of listening and hearing imagine a soccer ball levitating in front of you in one spot. As you breathe in let the ball spin slowly forward (top moving toward you, point closest to you moving down, and point on the bottom surface of the ball moving away from you), As your breath stops, let the ball stop, then as you breathe out let the ball spin slowly backward. Just intently watch the ball. Breathe slowly and rhythmically. All the rest is the same.

    You do not need to wait 3 months to let us know what is happening, but do wait three months before analyzing anything or making any judgments. Just do and observe.

Once you can keep those "mind interruptions" away, you'll be meditating. 

SirMike

Oh ok, so I should meditate in the morning THEN astral project :o?

SirMike

I can meditate but the thing that makes me loose concentration is the itches and twitches D:!

SirMike

Can't I just do the NoY method, since thats like a universal method for meditation :o?? I think I will try that instead >.>

Xanth

First of all, your multi-posting... while not against the rules... shows your massive impatience.  This is something you'll seriously need to work on.

Quote from: SirMike on August 23, 2011, 13:35:00
Oh ok, so I should meditate in the morning THEN astral project :o?
Practice AP in the morning.
Meditate later on in the day.

But it's something you, personally, should work on.

Quote from: SirMike on August 23, 2011, 13:37:31
I can meditate but the thing that makes me loose concentration is the itches and twitches D:!
You can not meditate then.  ;)

Quote from: SirMike on August 23, 2011, 13:46:59
Can't I just do the NoY method, since thats like a universal method for meditation :o?? I think I will try that instead >.>
There are many ways to meditate.  Noy's method is one of many.  Find whatever works best for you and stick with it.

I suggest reading/watching the following:
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2011/07/11/three-exercises-for-specific-learning-types-tom-campbell/
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2011/08/16/how-to-meditate-tom-campbell/
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2011/08/22/another-meditation-gem-from-the-mind-of-tom-campbell/

Goodluck and for the love of god relax... I can feel your anxiety from here.  >_<

SirMike

Sorry, I will do my best to be more patient.  :-D