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ZiggyMike

Hi there I had a possible Ap this morning with sights sounds and everything, when I said clarity now, it actually became clearer. And then i decided to look at my hand for more clarity and focus but instead it was kinda weird like some kind of contraption... And then my other hand was ok but I was wearing a ring on it... So i thought who proposed! Lol :-D sorry... Couldn't resist! Ok, my legs had extra toes! So I tried to get out of my body but couldn't it was really haaaaaaaard... Didn't try phasing though was so occupied with my ringed finger.... Lol, and I am a guy!
To Love or not to Love, that is the question.

Frequent Flier

I'm waiting to hear an explanation for that. In the meantime we can recommend a good psycho therapist.  :wink: :-P

Kidding of course. ;) I'm of the opinion that this could just be a 'dream' or a mix of dream and reality.

The fact you had difficulty coming out completely could cause a problem in perception. I've tried projecting from lucid dream states and seeming to be prone and the results have been varied, and sometimes confusing.

Only when everything is solid, and I feel in control, full awareness and a sense that it's not a dream do I really feel it isn't.
Of course sometimes I could be not sure and still be 'out'.  :-P

ZiggyMike

Psycho therapist! Lol.. Anyway I think the thing holding me down from a full blown Ap is the fact that I can't make the detachment after gaining "control" of my astral body. It's always hard to move.  Pleaaaaase helllllllllllp!
To Love or not to Love, that is the question.

CFTraveler

Quote from: ZiggyMike on February 15, 2012, 02:38:20
Hi there I had a possible Ap this morning with sights sounds and everything, when I said clarity now, it actually became clearer. And then i decided to look at my hand for more clarity and focus but instead it was kinda weird like some kind of contraption... And then my other hand was ok but I was wearing a ring on it... So i thought who proposed! Lol :-D sorry... Couldn't resist! Ok, my legs had extra toes! So I tried to get out of my body but couldn't it was really haaaaaaaard... Didn't try phasing though was so occupied with my ringed finger.... Lol, and I am a guy!
Is it normal for your energy body to look different than your physical body, or is it normal for you to dream of having a different body, or are you asking another question altogether?


ZiggyMike

I meant is it normal for my energy body to look weird... Lol. Is it my over active imagination? Someone said said it was probably a dimensional shift. But everything else in the room was normal at the time. And it wasn't a dream. I was sure of that.
To Love or not to Love, that is the question.

CFTraveler

Yes, it does happen, but not always.  I think that the shape of your energy body can be a sign that the subconscious is telling you something, especially if you could 'see' it (how did you see yourself, in third person, in a mirror, etc.?)
And also, have you been doing many reality checks in which you look at your hands?

ZiggyMike

As a matter of fact, I have been doing reality checks. I look at my hands and ask if its real of a dream.
To Love or not to Love, that is the question.

CFTraveler

This may be the reason.
When I started doing reality checks (jumping to see if I was going to take off, thinking about flying, and just asking myself if I'm dreaming) they worked great- but as I got more into 'bringing consciousness into the unconscious' my reality got weirder, and soon dreaming became an alternative timeline- where you know your reality is different but you still don't remember it as 'dreaming', and I had to change the way I think about reality.  Of course this could be expounded on, but not in this case.
So if you use 'looking at your hands' as reality checks, you may get so used to doing this that you will do it even when dreaming- and if you're not lucid, then you will accept whatever the shape you see as 'normal' and will continue on.
So, if in the experience you simply accepted and continued then it was a dream (or the projection turned into a dream or a mental projection)
or, if you had full conscious understanding of your out of body state and went 'what the heck', then it was a projection that was some sort of simulation or you saw traits reflected in your energy body.

urshebear

Yeah you'll get that lol.