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Svetoslav

Hi there,
This is my first post and hope that you will like reading it.
OBE initializations are not so difficult for me.. The problem is getting out when in paralysis state.
What means what for me: Physical body - the real body which i use now for writing; Astral paralyzed body - The body where you are paralyzed and trying to do projection;Energy body - The body where we all aim at...astral projection

Before a year ago i had false awakenings(hypnopompic state) and then read about that stuff.4 months ago i was desperate to do an OBE.So i tried to move my hands and they did,but they were sooo heavy.But fighting with them for a while made them easier to move till i got out from my bed. Was short OBE. Next night was the same and even tried to go trough the wall but got blackness.I saw scarab bug and made few steps back so was back in the room.And that's pretty much like it.
1 month ago i tried to do an OBE not from false awakening because it happens too rarely,but just after i loose consciousness. What happens is that in 8 am i wake up then relax deeply and think of something.I feel how my physical body goes asleep.I often make some small tests to know if my physical body is asleep by opening my eyes a bit.If that happens with much effort and see blurry vision then i am ready for an OBE. Today i wake up in 8 am and till 11.30 am i made 10 tries to do an OBE ! All of them unsuccessful :( . My first 2 successful OBEs were from false awakenings as i mentioned,but these ones are from hypnogogic state and maybe that's why it is a little bit different and i don't know what to do. In this scenario when i move my arms i don't see them,but feel the movement. So i am moving my energy ones? It is really easy to move my entire energy body. From all of these 10 tryings today i am stuck,because of that... About vibrations- the vibrations are like vibrating sounds in my ears.I can increase them by some sensation like fear.No matter how much i increase them nothing happens(that's why now trying doing OBE without vibrations). So my best attempt (without vibrations) was moving my energy body to get up from the bed(without seeing it or feeling it,because my vision is stuck in the paralyzed astral body). When my energy body entirely split from the paralyzed astral body i heard a pop-out sound. Now i couldn't feel nor paralyzed astral or energy body,with no sensation or position of the energy body.

Any one can help me why my first 2 meetings with OBE were different(heavy but movable astral arm) with those i am having and struggling with (vision stuck in paralyzed astral body;movement sensation in energy body) ?

Thanks in advance

Lionheart

 Hello Svetoslav. you will find that every Astral experience will be different. You can travel consciously aware, which can be known as Phasing, from a Lucid Dream, and yes there are even the "false awakenings". Two days ago I experienced all 3 of them in the same 24 hr period and all 3 of them had different body energies. When I Phase I don't get vibrations or sounds. But when I awoke in the Lucid Dream I had full blown Astral Sounds, paralysis and heavy vibrations. These are completely normal "sign posts" of the Astral though.When I awoke from the "false awakening" I was in total shock, it seemed like I had lived the past half hour or so for real in real time. I found this video here to be quite helpful understanding the Astral signs and techniques to get there. You will find that you will get much better with practice. I hope you enjoy this as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK3Og_nqgNg
Good Luck and Safe Travels.

Svetoslav

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Thanks for your post and video Lionheart.
You are absolutely right that the OBEs can look totally different each time. But lately (1 month or now about 2) i am having identical OBE types,where i just can't make the astral projection,because my vision is stuck in the paralyzed  body.
I've heard before about the OBE commands. I've just used it once in my second successful experience. It was "Clarity Now !" and my vision get much better.Many people reported that it is working. Might be useful for those who read now.

Lionheart

 Yes thinking "clarity now" is extremely helpful in those situations. Another way to do it is strengthen your intent and try to deepen the experience. This can come from picking up sand on a Astral Beach scene, basically doing anything to become interactive with what you are visualizing. Then going further, are there any smells or sounds? Doing this will put your focus completely in the Astral.
Good Luck!  :-)

Svetoslav

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Yea i forgot to tell the weirdest thing..
It is only small sound vibration in my ears like 5-10 seconds. I don't smell or see anything; feels the same as in real world.
How i understand that i am not in the real world ? - By two things. I feel paralyzed and forceless.When i try to open my eyes they struggle to close down - my eye balls go upwards like i am in trance or something (i simply tell it blurry vision).
I've tried many times imagining something in the middle of my room,but nothing happens.I have some fears from ebooks that i read about dark shadow man in the room or vampires,but they don't appear either.

I've also forgot to tell another successful OBE,which is the only one achieved from the hypnagogic state.
What happened:

I felt the same sensations as i tell above. I decided to not open my eyes immediately. As i many times said it is easy to move my energy body in that state so i rotated it a bit(from the paralyzed astral body) and jumped ! I got trough the celling and was in complete darkness.. After few seconds i saw red flying targets ! I though that's the way to build your world.. So i started filling these red targets in order to build my kitchen. With my full imaginary possibilities it did ! It was like old graphics card rendering an image piece by piece. I started fearing and woke up.

I am yet trying this rotate-jump technique,but it is not working anymore.

Lionheart

 Have you tried Phasing? You don't need to climb out of the body with this technique. You create a pleasant environment and use your intent to join it. I think you might find these videos helpful.  The first is great for anytime practice. The second is more of a very well made tutorial. I found these extremely helpful, hopefully you do too.  :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxvb9pgkrvI&feature=related               
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK3Og_nqgNg

Svetoslav

Thanks for the videos i've already watched the second one (in your previous post).
I will watch the first one too thanks :)

Many people say that there is another OBE in which your subconsciousness controls everything and you must follow it (don't know the definition) - i think that's useless.
I am always trying Phasing. Controlling my self and even going to 50 km distance is enough for me (for beginning).