New Thomas Cambell and Neil Kramer interview

[Lionheart]

 There is a new Thomas Campbell interview discussing Consciousness. This time he is joined by Neil Kramer. As usual very deep conversation. I really enjoyed Thomas's explanation at the 20 minute mark of this when he is answering a question about what he thinks of a man named Mirran Dajo, (they had previously seen in a video of Mirran being lanced with swords over and over again in front of scientists, without flinching. WARNING, THIS IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFoctXxfs_A) and how he explains what he is doing in the deeper sense. Thomas basically says that it is outside the normal per say for a purpose. That purpose is to wake others up to this. It's just like Astral Travel. Some people have an OBE and simply ignore it because they are not ready to awaken to the new reality. Others will have the OBE and be set upon a path to discovery. Myself personally, I have had involuntary OBE's all my life. But until my extraordinary event of last February, had ignored them. My 3 night OBE's in last February basically had to be that powerful to finally catch my attention, to start leading me towards a new direction in my life. That's what it takes to finally allow the consciousness to start to evolve. To reach for the next level.
This video is just another one of many from these two extremely talented pioneers. They are very detailed and deep, so I find I have to listen to them at least 2 or 3 times to catch the true essence of what is being said. Enjoy!  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAU735oFu6E&feature=player_embedded

[Volgerle]

I see that the interview was done by the guy from the Matrixwissen (= "knowledge of the matrix") website. It is a very informative website and I can recommend to everyone to have a closer look at it, because there is a lot of different interesting 'stuff' to find. It is done by a German who does everything with English-German translations (No, lest you think this .. it's not me.), but there is also a complete English version available for the non-German viewers. http://www.matrixwissen.de/index.php?lang=en

[Contenteo]

Yeah. Dead on. I mean, it is almost obvious that is a matter of time before some sort of tipping point occurs with this discipline of thought. I simply hope the transition can occur in a smooth manner.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Stillwater]

Somehow I don't think there will be a transition; I feel like the people who are interested in these matters at all are mostly already here, and most others may have very fortified reasons for not having interest or wanting to be involved. I think these ideas will grow over time in society, but I don't think they will take over mainstream thought, at least not for quite a while. Thomas Cambell even admitted himself at the start of one of his lectures that the people who were there that day were there because they were already quite versed in the sort of thing he had to share- people don't show up at functions like that by accident.

But it is definitely great to have folks like Tom (he is sort of a second-generation Monroe) who bring some much-needed rigor and methodical legitimacy to the subject!

[Volgerle]

Robert Bruce calls the practice (and knowledge) of what he calls 'raw spirituality' the LAST TABOO on Earth. I think he has a point if you look at how he means that.
Just take a close look at 'mainstream' society, media, perception: Is violence, crime and sex a TABOO? No, not really. You get it for free at every corner. True spiritual practice on the other hand is because if it pops up then it is thoroughly ridiculed (new age baloney, etc....) by the establishment. Regarding the 'establish'-ment, we can say that 'raw/true' spirituality has two great and influential enemies in society, both of which are very dominant in forming our "Zeitgeist": Established (organised, institutionalised, "state") religion on the one and materialist 'science' on the other side. Both, for their very own (different) reasons, don't like 'raw spirituality' and spiritual ("occult" / metaphysical / "esoteric") practice at all. They deny it, they fight it with everything they have, keeping people in their mind prison in order to control them.
Oops, Lest I'm starting to rant all-over again ... I am off again.  

[Rudolph]

Established (organised, institutionalised, "state") religion on the one and materialist 'science' on the other side. Both, for their very own (different) reasons, don't like 'raw spirituality' and spiritual ("occult" / metaphysical / "esoteric") practice at all. They deny it, they fight it with everything they have, keeping people in their mind prison in order to control them.

There is no science or religion out there fighting to keep people in their mind prison. There is no TABOO. For those wishing to do the hard Work of pursuing 'raw spirituality', the Path has always been there and free to tread. The really big obstacle has always been FEAR of one's own subconscious and Life in general.

This victim mentality is a very negative state to reside in. The fact is that major religions form in the manner that matches the level of consciousness of the masses. Science progresses to the degree that people can accept the knowledge/power (& subsequent responsibility) that it delivers.

The knowledge needed to progress is easily available nowadays yet the ignorant masses do whatever it takes to hide from knowledge and power (because they are terrified of the concomitant Responsibility).

This constant finger pointing at "organized religion" or the "Elites" is just a neurotic defense mechanism for those who desperately need something to hate in order to take their minds off the fact that they are not doing anything at all to help themselves improve their state of Consciousness.

The Blame Game is a *very* common and very effective sideshow that diverts attention from the real Work on Self that enlightened Souls will pursue.

[Volgerle]

The Blame Game is a *very* common and very effective sideshow that diverts attention from the real Work on Self that enlightened Souls will pursue.

Right, that's why I was 'ironicising' myself a bit by calling my own statement a 'little rant'.