Question to timeless

[goingslow]

That makes a lot of sense timeless.  So you figure out what your shadow issues are then become aware of them then I guess you get an understanding after that what to do next.  

I think I know what the answer is.  It involves a lot of introspection and watching your feelings and reactions.  

Having a stressful situation where it is tested is the only way to really know if you've done enough work. I've had lucid dreams/spontaneous OBE's(i think in retrospect) since I was a kid and from the beginning most of them were scary.  All the entities were in my house and even then I knew I had to get over my fear.  In one recurring scary LD i would have I would realize Im dreaming and call for my mom to come in to wake me up, so she'd be shaking me in my bed.. and I'd look up.. she'd ask what was wrong and she'd have a smile on her face and a sinister look in her eye.  I'd realize it wasn't my mom and would start screaming again hoping I'd scream in real life.. They'd usually just laugh and look at me when it realized I wasn't buying that it was my mom.. this would go on and on, all night sometimes.. with my dad coming in then my sister etc.  

However, it werent for the scary entities in my life I dont think i would even be here on this forum right now.  They helped me realize I was dreaming, but Ive always known I had to somehow get rid of them if Ill ever be able to make the most of my dreams.  Its hard to get over fear though as Im sure you know.    

Anyway about the postal workers thing.  My dad was drafted into the Marines and was sent to Vietnam at age 18, and when he got back there were very limited jobs he could do.  Needless to say he was very "messed up".  Anyway, the government gives the Veterans 10 points on the test to get work at the post office.  Its their way of saying "we sent you out to lose a part of your mind or worse and we'll now help you get employed."  All the jokes about postal workers, most of them are Veterans.  The repressed everything along with their many problems causes them to blow up.

My dad had problems and had to retire early. I think the repressed anger, hurt, sadness does cause that to happen often.  Whether people know it or not it is a stressful job and often they cant handle it.  Most people dont undertand that degree of anger,  hurt and rage.

One thing I was a little confused about was I read when you pass the dweller you dont take any power or beliefs with you.  I guess I dont understand this, I can see any power because by that point I think you realize a lot of this battle power isn't as powerful as it seems in theory.  When people are so certain they can beat any demon in battle I wonder if they've met them in the astral because often you're not as powerful as you think.  Maybe its just me though..

Anyway thanks for your response, I have a better understanding of what you mean by accepting the shadow but not condoning it.  

Thanks for taking the time to answer me in detail.

[goingslow]

Oh and I bet the job thing was a good test.  I cant even imagine having to work under a person like that.  Maybe when you were done learning the lesson it was time to move on.

[goingslow]

I didnt think you were making fun of that.  I was just saying I agree that a lot of those issues is what makes that happen.  It's when people use terms like "going postal" I get a little annoyed.  I mean when they use it for a term for crazy.  

I would think having a loved one die of being murdered is as traumatic as it gets too.  I cant imagine the anger etc.  I also cant imagine the stress of going through trial.  I really feel for people I hear about who really have a hard trial when they're just trying to get justice.  

The dweller on the threshold is a term they used in one of your links.  I think they said you dont take anything with you (the link about the shaman) including power and belief.  But maybe Im mixing sources.  

[goingslow]

I think you already answered the question about power/beliefs in the previous post.  It makes sense about illusion.  I also think having a book which at least mentioned overcoming fear about scary dreams would have been extremely helpful as a kid.  I had to learn for myself it was fear I had to overcome with those scary dreams, and how true the saying is "there's nothing to fear but fear itself".  

Wow! Now I understand even more about the reasons he'd have a really hard time.  To have that opportunity, who knows what the right thing to do is.  I mean a lot of people not in the situation know but I can imagine all the emotions.  Even though he made the right choice, I can understand a person reliving the moment.  Thats really rough.  No matter how good of a person you are someone taking the life of your family member would bring out such feelings of revenge etc.  Im glad to hear he's doing well now.  I think one thing being around that type of emotion does for a person is give them empathy for a person dealing with similiar issues.    

I also know what you mean about sensing things.  I could always tell when my dad was brooding or in a mood.  To me his face would completely change and Id get a sick feeling in my stomach.  I'd have to leave the room, but as a kid sometimes i'd get more angry and defensive at it.  It felt like an attack of some kind even when it wasn't aimed at me.

I think thats why the whole shadow issue seemed right to me in some way when you mentioned it.  When you're around that much emotion I think a person realizes more how powerful projection of that anger etc can be.

Thats an interesting thing about the water. Im still not too familiar with the difference between trial by water and fire.    

Im gonna go out for a jog or something myself.  Its a nice day here too.  

Have a good afternoon.

[goingslow]

I had read something you typed a while ago, but I cant find it.

You said that when you do something wrong priveleges are revoked.. I think you were saying that in the context of shadow work.

First question, Dont you think it could be the guilt you feel at thinking you did something bad that revolks priveleges?  Not that you did something bad in and of itself?  

Another question I thought doing shadow work is accepting there is a part of you that might do something "bad".  Wouldnt you then lose that type of guilt and naming that part of you "bad" and the way you normally act "good"?  I thought shadow work was to accept that part of you that does get angry, upset, frustrated etc.

Thanks for your time.. I was just curious about this comment.