Very Strange Experience. I'm hoping someone can explain.

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shalala_la

Hi! :-D I'm a new member, and I've recently decided to start meditating for a variety of reasons. One of these is my desire to astral project. The thing is, I'm pretty sure I have before, but I'm not really sure. Here is the story:

This was quite a few years ago, and I was only 12 years old. I had never heard of AP or OOBE. I was lying on my back in bed very still. My mind was completely clear. I don't remember falling asleep. There was no vibration or anything like that. I was in bed awake, and everything just kind of faded to black. Then things faded back in, but I was floating in the air parallel to my sleeping body. Here is the strange part. I was wearing a completely different outfit, and my hair was a different length. It was definitely me (looked like me and all that), but it was like an older version of me or something.

This version of me was not at all alarmed by the fact that I was outside my body, and she stared down at the sleeping me for sometime with a sort of annoyed expression on her face. She then proceeded to move herself lower to the ground next to my bed. She was very close to the floor, but she levitated and did not walk. I could clearly see all the attributes of my room as well as my sister sleeping in the bed next to me. Her face was completely expressionless, as she floated out of my room through my living room and outside onto my balcony. It was raining and very windy that night, and although I did not actually feel any of that, I could see the trees blowing in the wind. She stood on the railing, and slowly leaned over until she fell (she seemed to have a specific purpose in doing this, not a suicide type thing). She was falling into some sort of void.

Things then faded to black again. I did not wake up immediately afterwards. I was aware of sometime passing, and then I faded back in to my body which was awake (I did not feel as if I woke up, it was as if my body was already awake when my mind turned back on). I did not experience any sleep paralysis. It is almost as if there are parts of the AP that I don't remember for some reason. I haven't had an AP since.

One more thing. I refer to my astral body (if that's what it was) in the third person, because it was as if the 12 year old me was a silent observer even though we shared the same body, as if I was the subconscious of my astral self. I saw things through her eyes, I knew her thoughts etc. it's just that at the time, she did not feel like she was me. It was almost as if she was my alter ego. It was very strange, but I KNOW it was not a dream. I rarely remember my dreams, and when I do they are to the point and symbolic.

I was hoping for some insight as to what this might be, I'm trying to recreate the experience but to no avail so far. If it helps, my mother sometimes has prophetic dreams, and I sometimes (very rarely) have vivid symbolic dreams that are prophetic as well.

I do apologize for the length of this post (especially as a new member), but I feel I won't be able to successfully AP unless I can understand this experience that has been bothering me for years.  :?

CFTraveler

There is something I'm not clear about- when you were floating next to your body, was your point of perception on your floating self, or on the 'on the bed' self?  And, your description (of an older-looking you), was it of the physical body on the bed?

If the pov was in the floating you, I'd interpret it as some sort of projection into the future (or some sort of harmonic convergence with your future).  If your point of perception was of the person of the bed (you were looking at the floating 'you') then I'd describe it as some sort of Higher Self meeting, or a simple dweller experience (that is, etheric double distortion).

Contenteo

Sounds like a simple F21 experience.
So, it wasn't you in your actual room, but a culmination of your mental models that were creating your environment.

As for the meanings, your brain was tuning into different information streams, whether about the future or simple randomness, you can be the only final judge. It's what you do with the information you were given that matters. You know what to do, you just need to think about it.

Cheers,
Contenteo

shalala_la

Thanks for the replies.

@CFTraveler -- My point of perception was of my floating self. I could see myself sleeping on the bed. The thing that made is weird (and it is hard for me to articulate) was the fact that my consciousness was separate from that of my floating self. I could perceive her thoughts as well as my own. It was as if there were two versions of me inhabiting the same astral body. The older self was the floating body, while my physical body was the same as always.


@Contenteo -- I read about F21 experiences, and I could see this as being one. It was almost as if this was something that happened quite frequently, and for some reason I was able to witness it that night. It was as if this "other me" was unaware that my conscious mind was still awake. It was very confusing (perhaps because I was so young at the time). Part of why I'm trying to get into meditating and higher levels of consciousness is because the version of myself I saw that night feels more akin to who I am know than to who I was back then. I feel that is significant somehow.

So I guess this wasn't a true AP.

CFTraveler


QuoteSo I guess this wasn't a true AP.
Yes it was.
It was an astral projection to  realities and energy systems beyond normal time, space and physical matter.

Contenteo

Yes, that was a true astral projection. It was actually a glorious example.

In my definition, projection starts when you have a F21 experience. It is like the first base camp at Mount Everest.

F10 would be like the parking lot.

Cheers,
Contenteo




shalala_la

Thanks so much. I appreciate all the help.

I really do feel a lot better about this experience. I'm thinking it's best for me to just start from scratch with the whole meditation and astral projection business, and abandon any expectations of this specific experience occurring again. If it does, at least this time I'll have an idea of what is going on.

Contenteo

You are like a blank graph right now. You need to have as many dream and astral experiences as possible and mentally fit them into these models you are reading about.

Eventually, in your own way, you'll see the pattern emerge.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Contenteo