What kind of experience was this?

[twilighter]

I had a strange experience over a year ago that still baffles me, and am hoping someone here can shed some light onto what might have happend. In March of 2011, an old family friend was staying over. By midnight he was so tired he decided to crash on my sofa, rather than go to the guest room. I retired to my room as usual, and soon fell fast asleep, where I started having a series of lucid dreams, that lasted for some time. A couple hours later, I awoke to a loud rumbling sound, and realized my bed was shaking. From the glow of my nightlight I could see my lampshade moving, along with other objects. Being from California, earthquakes are nothing unusual, but this one seemed different from others I had experienced in the past. I could hear loud winds whistling from what sounded like a westerly direction. And also heard what I can only describe as a gushing sound. I can remember holding onto my headboard for a while, waiting for what seemed like an eternity for it all to subside. After it stopped, I got up to check on my friend, and pets. I headed straight through the hall into the livingroom where my friend was sleeping, but realized he was no longer on the sofa. Figuring the strange earthquake must have woke him too. I called out his name, and he came back from the direction of the bathroom. When I asked him what he thought of the earthquake, he looked at me in a puzzled way, and asked What earthquake? He told me, shortly after we went to sleep, his cellphone went off, and he had a long conversation with his girlfriend, and that he never went back to sleep. I just couldn't believe he was telling me he felt nothing, because I knew I was awake, and it was real. I later went to bed tired and confused. But when I woke up the next morning he told me, that about the time I told him about the tsunami and earthquake had hit Japan.He still talks about that when I see him, and I still think about it often. I knew nothing of the subject of astral projection at the time. But could it have been related in some way? Perhaps remote viewing? I'm still trying to figure it out.

[Contenteo]

If I had to put a objective term to it, I would go with False awakening.

I have had a small handful of effortless, unknowing projections. Very quick smooth transitions, in no way doings of my own volition. Sounds like that was the case.

Its tough to say the Japan earthquake would have an effect on you, but 9/11 did spike the earth's magnetic fields, and I have a pretty sure feeling that projections and magnetism are entirely interconnected.

So yeah, IMO, I would go with false awakening with 'magnetic interference' or something like that.

Interesting account.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[twilighter]

Hi Contenteo, and thanks for your input. So it could have been a false awakening? Interesting. At the time I only knew that I never experienced anything so strange before. I'm not even certain it was tied in to the earthquake and tsunami in Japan, and simply a coincidence. I only know it felt so real. I have always been a lucid dreamer, but could always distinguish dreams from reality. Ironically that experience is what led me to learn about astral projection.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Thanks on the heads up with that magnetic spike. Im into electronics and have collected basic info on an anomoly. No details yet but with a little more I have a possible project for an energy accelerator which could give a massive boost to this oob subject.
Its still in research mode but if it works we all can have oobs like nothing you have experienced yet.

[twilighter]

Hi,
Thanks on the heads up with that magnetic spike. Im into electronics and have collected basic info on an anomoly. No details yet but with a little more I have a possible project for an energy accelerator which could give a massive boost to this oob subject.
Its still in research mode but if it works we all can have oobs like nothing you have experienced yet.

That would be great! I kept thinking how exciting it would be if someone with some real knowledge in electronics, could find away to pick up OOB readings. Much in the same way ghost hunting teams use thermal cameras, evp, spectrans and motion censors , in trying to pick up spirit activity. Since etheric bodies are supposed to be very similiar to spirits, it would seem that a lot of the same principles could be applied in an investigation.

[Contenteo]

I make a hoard of conceptual frameworks on a daily basis, its what I do for a living. It comes down to a practice of distinguishing 'brightlines,' dividing points that give a more detailed picture without foregoing wholeness or aggregating upwards(adding more to the system). A good example would be the line that classifies 'immaterial transactions' in traditional accounting.

Anyway, the reason I bring that up is because the closer you get to any brightline, data tends to cluster. This is where we are with your example. In our discipline, there is a lot of 'border' experiences with astral projection. So, although this doesn't deal with a common 'form' future event you will experience, or the most common false awakening 'awakening in your bed', It does deal with you believing you were somewhere you were definitively not and firmly believing you were awake. In my mind this is a true false awakening. Lucid, but unaware. A very distinct combination of function.

Cheers,
Contenteo


P.S. I base it on purely function, not form, this because so many of mine and other experiences have started projections near their sleeping location. Well the fact that we are dealing with the intangible. Measuring by function first is most logical. For instance, a reverse example, if you are measuring tomatoes, making a pile of red ones only helps once.

[twilighter]

P.S. I base it on purely function, not form, this because so many of mine and other experiences have started projections near their sleeping location. Well the fact that we are dealing with the intangible. Measuring by function first is most logical. For instance, a reverse example, if you are measuring tomatoes, making a pile of red ones only helps once.

It's very likely you're right. I still have a great deal to learn on the subject of APing. Though I have made it my mission to learn more about it. Oddly enough, at the time of the incident, I literally knew nothing on the subject matter, or at least on a conscious level. But I can also remember a lucid dream where, I suddenly found myself flying out my bedroom window, and winding up over canyons and steams, then floating over the Brooklyn Bridge, even though I have never traveled back east. It all seemed spontainous, and unplanned. In retrospect, it seems very much like Astral travel, even though I knew nothing of it at the time. So, maybe I projecting from lucid dreams, even before I had an understanding of what was going on?

[Contenteo]

I know I was. I just didn't have a vocabulary for it. No mental model to verify my experience. It was easier to discard this occurrences as untruths it in the pile with other unknowns of this world. What interesting creatures us humans are.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[twilighter]

I know I was. I just didn't have a vocabulary for it. No mental model to verify my experience. It was easier to discard this occurrences as untruths it in the pile with other unknowns of this world. What interesting creatures us humans are.

Cheers,
Contenteo

True, especially when the subject of astral projection is so covert. I only learned about it in the last several months, and I am no kid here. Too bad it's kept so hush-hush. You have to admire the Robert Monroe's and Thomas Campbell's of the world, who have tried to shed some light on it. It's also great there are sites like this, where people can share and learn from each other's experiences.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
These sites are really the key to opening up this aspect of being human. Most things science fails to recognise are forgotten or just one of those things. Its crazy as science supports the investigation of the unknown. Such a dilemma, if it cant fit in with the existing postulates then suppressing it is the way.
Thank god for the Pulse and others. This is one big door we are opening, lets hope the shared info can produce beyond doubt an investigation that hits the media big time.
Until then .....

[twilighter]

Hi,
These sites are really the key to opening up this aspect of being human. Most things science fails to recognise are forgotten or just one of those things. Its crazy as science supports the investigation of the unknown. Such a dilemma, if it cant fit in with the existing postulates then suppressing it is the way.
Thank god for the Pulse and others. This is one big door we are opening, lets hope the shared info can produce beyond doubt an investigation that hits the media big time.
Until then .....

Hi, I absolutely agree with you! And you're right, Pulse is a fantastic site.