Hanging out at graveyards.

[Ihavewings]

I'm from North Africa and a lot of the young people here hang out at graveyards, I was with my cousin at a graveyard at night and I began to talk about djins to him and he said to stop talking about them because apparently there is a better chance of them coming out, weird.

[majour ka]

Dont worry there's no such thing my friend...Hope you find somewhere else to hang out 

[Killa Rican]

They are everywhere regardless if you speak of them or not. You are never truly "alone".

[Ihavewings]

They are everywhere regardless if you speak of them or not. You are never truly "alone".

The thing that interests me is the people I sit with claim they "see" these spirits / djins / demons what ever they are.

[majour ka]

Spirit people yes maybe they see them, they are harmless....demons and Djins (what ever that is) dont exist....just in films and in peoples imagination..not as a objective realty  oh and in smileys ;o)

[Killa Rican]

I used to see them too. Djinn/Jinn roughly translates to "Unseen" or "Hidden". So it is somewhat of a general bucket term for Spirits and Entities, In my opinion I do not think it is an "Exclusive" type being, but more of an entity that is affiliated and resides in Nature among us.

If you go anywhere in the phillipines and indonesia or most of south eastern asia, they generally refer to malicious beings or nature spirits as "jinn" whether it's fae, gnome, elemental etc. But it is not a typical Islamic Jinn.

[majour ka]

And by the way, spirit people dont hang about in grave yards!    They are drawn to people they love or have an emotional connection with...

[majour ka]

I used to see them too. Djinn/Jinn roughly translates to "Unseen" or "Hidden". So it is somewhat of a general bucket term for Spirits and Entities, In my opinion I do not think it is an "Exclusive" type being, but more of an entity that is affiliated and resides in Nature among us.

If you go anywhere in the phillipines and indonesia they generally refer to malicious beings or nature spirits as "jinn" whether it's fae, gnome, elemental etc. But it is not a typical Islamic Jinn.

Oh ok, got ya 

[Killa Rican]

Jinn are not typical "spirits". They are living beings similiar to us humans that reside "Behind the air" so to speak.(They are not just astral) There world merely co-exists with ours, whatever one chooses to call them, in other cultures there have mentioned beings of a similiar nature.(Even in my spiritual practice, The Orishas have similiar behaviour and mannerisms)

Although I will agree to an extent, that mainstream religions would rather demonize the metaphysical(Even these beings) rather then attempting to truly understand them.( They should be judged on their own merit, when encountered, I give everybody a chance lol.   )

Spirit people yes maybe they see them, they are harmless....demons and Djins (what ever that is) dont exist....just in films and in peoples imagination..not as a objective realty

I respectfully disagree with this, but I dont feel like getting into an argument, I just suggest we should stick to what the original topic was about in discussing jinn.

hugs.

EDIT: Just noticed "666" posts! congrats. Hehe  

[Ihavewings]

I just hear a lot of stories about how these djins attack people who are in the wrong place doing the wrong things. Just wanted to know what you guys think of this. It would be cool if everyone could just give their own opinion instead of disagreeing with each other and quoting each other.

[Killa Rican]

I just hear a lot of stories about how these djins attack people who are in the wrong place doing the wrong things. Just wanted to know what you guys think of this. It would be cool if everyone could just give their own opinion instead of disagreeing with each other and quoting each other.

All I will say is that it is a very real Phenomena. I already know the majority on this site holds a different opinion, but I have tons of experience as well as knowledge in the field.

I have had a few encounters and experiences I shared with even  disbelievers/skeptics from which they've became believers.. Although at this time, It is not something I will share here as I will normally just be accused of experiencing an over active "imagination" lol.  

(I would be more then happy to post information and content about the Jinns if that is what you are looking for)

[Ihavewings]

I was told they have families and get married and such, but why would they attack you.

[Killa Rican]

I was told they have families and get married and such, but why would they attack you.

As I've posted before, Jinn are very similiar in nature to Humans. Beings of duality, they can choose to do right or wrong, they have their own spirituality, religions, and beliefs to follow.(They do not have all the answers, they are as clueless to the universe as we are.) Some of them believe in a Creator God. Some dont.

They are not demons, they simply "are" .Yes they can get "married" , fall in love, have kids, grow old, and die. (They can live for thousands and thousands of years.)
Everything they experience in their semi-corporal space is the same we experience in life in the physical , both the good and the bad, the up's and the down. Their own life lessons etc.

Speaking from an objective standpoint, "Good" and "Evil" only exist as human concepts and it doesnt apply to them. They are simply indifferent towards us.

Some of them are perceived to have a malcious nature, being that they have the same disregard for human life, the way humans have disregard for animals, insects, and plant life we share on this earth. Think of it like that.

So for why they attack people, it can be out of pride, or feeling insulted/disrespected(There is many reasons to this.), A jinn can fall in love with a human and interfere with that persons life.( For positive benefits or negative consequences)

I wouldnt say SOME of them act malicious for the sake of being malicious, rather, people just have to understand they are intelligent beings, with an entirely different thought process and nature, they evolved differently from us, they have their own way of thinking and their own perceptions/view points. We cant always project our way of thinking and human concepts such as "good" and "Evil" on to them as they cannot even understand "good" from the standpoint of a human being for which it is not.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Try a trip to the gates of mecca. The djinn are reported as guards not unlike St peter at heavens gates.
Let us know what you see.
Try to get by them but dont enter, not a good idea.

[Ihavewings]

Ok, I'm learning a bit. But now I want to know why people say they live in dirty places, some say it is because they eat the trash. There is a sewers someplace near my house and my family tell me that it is not a good idea to wander near sewers at night.

Here is a rather interesting video I found of a woman who seemed to be possessed by a Djin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY-nJigkHnk&feature=related

In the comments you can see a lot of people saying it is fake, I think those people do not really have a spiritual side.

[Killa Rican]

Ok, I'm learning a bit. But now I want to know why people say they live in dirty places, some say it is because they eat the trash. There is a sewers someplace near my house and my family tell me that it is not a good idea to wander near sewers at night.

Here is a rather interesting video I found of a woman who seemed to be possessed by a Djin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY-nJigkHnk&feature=related

In the comments you can see a lot of people saying it is fake, I think those people do not really have a spiritual side.

In general many backgrounds of people and occultists beleive malicious spirits wander and are attracted to uncleanliness. They gather around trash, filth, clutter, dumpsters, so in a part of thinking this they keep order in their home's to not attract anything that would be interest of it's disorder. If you go to a muslim though they will also say this same thing, but they will normally also add they hang out in "Marketplaces" because "that is where evil gathers" or "They are watching you in the bathroom." etc.

Jinn for the most part gather on top of trees and wide open fields, and they pay no notice to you as long as you respect them and their space. In general it doesnt mean they live in those places they are said to gather or wander through, but rather their realm's reside in those places.

There are specific places around the world that are said to have strong presence and hotspot of sightings of djinn, such as the Majlis al Jinn (meeting/gathering place of the Jinn). Once this area was used as a place for bungee jumping, however, the Country of Oman no longer allows entrance in the cave. The city of Bahala In Oman, is said to be full of djinns.

Remember we speak of realms, so it is unlikely to just be able to go to those places and view one. It just means those are some of the places that have high Djinn activity. Their world lies beyond our sight. To us, they are nothing more than caves, and small villages, but what lies beneath, is an unseen world of djinns.


As for the video, I cant really comment on it. This is the internet, and people will disagree no matter what. No amount 'Footage' can convince anyone no matter what their stance is, whether they claim to be spiritual or non-spiritual.

[Ihavewings]

So how do people claim they see these djins if they are invisible to us.

[Killa Rican]

Well like any other "type" of spiritual entity, some can notice them and their effects. It's natural for some people, but EVERYONE has potential to see. 

Obvious signs are Feeling A presence, see a Physical manifestation, hear a disembodied voice. etc

Sometimes they can be seen with the naked eye, but they are mostly interacted with through the "Mind's Eye" when encountered, if a person is capable of speaking to them and hearing them.

[AstralCody]

Well I heard from a lady I know, (she can see spirits in general) They tend to hang around living people. I always got spirits around me. I wonder why they cling to people? PS: Not all of it is bad. in fact most of the time it's good stuff.

[majour ka]

Jinn are not typical "spirits". They are living beings similiar to us humans that reside "Behind the air" so to speak.(They are not just astral) There world merely co-exists with ours, whatever one chooses to call them, in other cultures there have mentioned beings of a similiar nature.(Even in my spiritual practice, The Orishas have similiar behaviour and mannerisms)

Although I will agree to an extent, that mainstream religions would rather demonize the metaphysical(Even these beings) rather then attempting to truly understand them.( They should be judged on their own merit, when encountered, I give everybody a chance lol.   )

I respectfully disagree with this, but I dont feel like getting into an argument, I just suggest we should stick to what the original topic was about in discussing jinn.

hugs.

EDIT: Just noticed "666" posts! congrats. Hehe  

Well respectfuly Ill disagree aswell, hugs recived back at ya  666 oh yeah! lol 

[desert-rat]

I had thought of a jinn as more of a male Gennie .   Killa Rican's discription sounds more    like a nature sprite , or astral elemental .  As to "hanging out at a grave yard "  I can think of more interesting places .  desert rat 

[Killa Rican]

I had thought of a jinn as more of a male Gennie .   Killa Rican's discription sounds more    like a nature sprite , or astral elemental .  

I would like to clarify on this line of thought a bit.

Djinn or Jinn which comes from an ancient term meaning 'hidden' have existed in lore for thousands of years. Most early Semitic cultures have tales of them. There are carvings of Assyrian origin dating back to almost 1,000 BC from Nimrud. So predating Islam by almost 1500 years.

The whole "Genie In the Lamp" gig stems directly from a collection of popular Middle-East Folktales "One thousand and one nights"(Arabian Nights). It' of a Prince who at one point in the story, encounters a Jinn that does outragiously spectacular things.  Disney's "Aladdin" theme is based off it, in which this will turn out to be the common Western Portrayal of Jinns as "Genies".

Alot of it also comes from History and Legends of Solomon the King, who was wealthy, powerful, A Sorceror, and was said to have power and control over armys of people, slaves,  and an even an army of  Jinns(Unseen) at his disposal to do his biddings.

But the reality of the Jinn-Human bond(Presently); in this world there are sorceror's and practitioners that work with Jinns, handing them offerings in exchange for sending them out to complete tasks..("Wishes")

Due to the translation of "Jinn" it really depends on what culture or spiritual background you come across,  described as to what a "Jinn" is.

Some people believe everything unseen is a Jinn, regardless of Classifications such as spirit,astral, etheric,nature etc.

Some people believe them to be Demons.

Some believe them to be the "Middle Ground" Between The Divine And The Diabolical.(Duality)

Some people believe them to be a specific type/race of Entity.



But most do agree on, Jinns themselves are affiliated as a combination of Infernal and Elemental(Nature, Fire, Wind.etc). They are free willed beings that are spectral and semi-corporal, so they can shape shift and are able to manifest in a variety of ways, even physically.

That's about it.'