white dots in sky?

[Bob251]

Well, I don't have an explanation for you.

What I do have is the fact that there are more people who have experienced that sort of...thing (for lack of a better word).  I have experienced this myself, walking home from school.  I thought I saw an object flying across the sky, and when I tried to focus on it I began to see a swarm of white dots in the sky.  

So, that's all I have.  I too would like to know what this is.

[Athios]

My dad and I can see that too. My mom and my brother can't, no matter how hard they try. It may be noteworthy that my dad and I both do energy work of some sort.  [|)]

Some things I've noticed about the moving particles:
-transparent
-small
-particular
-rapid random movement
-no attractive or repulsive interactions

Some people have said they make them move faster or slower by focusing on them, but I've never noticed that. Personally, I think they might just be imagining that.  []
I've noticed that I can see them better if I use/stimulate my brow chakra. I at first thought it was an anomaly caused by too much light entering the eye, since it's really easy to see them in the sky during the day. But later I found that it's actually easier to see them in a clear bright sky, but facing away from the sun (around 4pm is a good time). I've also seen the particles while looking at snow covered ground, on a dark concrete road while it was raining, and looking at my dimly lit white wall behind this monitor (under weak illumination with old light bulb).

From all this, I've come to believe that they aren't physical things, and perhaps some sort of energy that we can see?

[Luminous]

This energy is described in the book "Hands of Light" by Barbara Ann Brennan.
These white dots should on a sunny day be very bright and move rapidly. On rainy days they are moving slowly and seems to be a bit more dull with gray centers.
It is said (not proved) that it's this energy the trees and plants uses for life not the actual sunlight.
I see it too but i don't know if it's really an energy or just an "optical" illusion in the eye.

[Rob]

Yeah I've seen that too. Its a question of focus for me, need to look right infront of my eyes.
These are tiny points of positive energy, highly charge, that blip in and out of the physical, manifesting visually for a very small amount of time. I have only seen it on sunny days, when the air is naturally fully of energy and just got the alive "something" about it! Also, you'll see more of them out of town and away from all the various sorts of pollution.
Fun to watch! Nice.

[sublime]

guess it's not so weird after all. I saw them again today when i was lying on my girlfriend's trampoline looking at the sky. it was bright out yet cloudy. i wasnt able to manipulate them at all, i just noticed the random movements they made. it almost looked as if it was closer to myself than the sky (clouds). i asked my girlfriend if she could see them and she said no. she immediately said something about those "magic eye" books and how she can't do those. it did somewhat remind me of those because i cant just look right at the sky and see them, i sort of have to strain and focus on one spot. once i do start to see them though i can REALLY see them, and LOTS of them too.


another thing i've noticed lately, while just sitting on my computer or anywhere for that matter, out of the corner of my eye, i'll see a small flicker of light. almost like those in the sky but just a single flicker. dont really know how else to explain that but it's happened quite a few times in the past year or so.

[Euphoric Sunrise]

Hmmm... when you people say white dots do you literally mean white dots? I can sometimes see 'dots' but they don't really have any colour. They remind me of something you might see if you look under a microscope at some tiny worm-like things or something. I see thousands of them and they just flitter about, appearing and disappearing within seconds, perhaps less. Maybe my eyes are just screwed up, but i've been seeing them for many years and my eyes function just as well as they always have.

[goingslow]

I was noticing that effect the other day.  More often than not what you're seeing is bacteria and other microscopic junk on your own eye.  Its actually a common phenomenon where a person will only see it in really bright light..aka outside on a sunny day.  

If you notice some of the pieces might be dark but a great deal are white and they seem to glide through the sky.  Its an effect of the eye.

If you see white lights in the dark thats another story.  Like at night when you're sleeping or whatever and see little sparks of light that disappear.  Ive seen those too and they're not the same as the bacteria on the eye phenomenon.

[goingslow]

here are two threads where they were discussed.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3914&SearchTerms=bacteria,on,the,eye
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3618&SearchTerms=bacteria,on,the,eye

It seems as if it also could be dead skin cells.  More likely thats what they are if they dont look sperm-like.
I noticed it when i was at the duckpond at school and when i remembered what someone said about skin cells and bacteria I was able to see thats what they really were.

[Euphoric Sunrise]

Thanks goingslow. At least now i know i'm not going blind or something []

[Rob]

Goingslow - I see little bits on the surface of my eyes too, but they look very different, more like slowly moving globular things, with blurry edges (diffraction? too close to eye? both?). These is real pin-points of light moving very quickly. One of my books (orgone accululators handbook) talks about them a little, says that sometimes you can see them streaming off trees and living objects. Dunno though, I've never seen that (but then again, never looked)

[sublime]

the whole bacteria explination sort of made me depressed. i actually thought it was something until i realized that you guys are right. when i really look at the sky, i see dark tubular like things that start in the center of my vision and then ALWAYS float downward. this makes me think that since they are always moving in the same direction, they must just be bacteria.

however, the glittery spots that i see are completely random in nature. i think there is a difference between these two things that i can see during a bright day.

[Athios]

Sorry, don't mean to sound like a know-it-all, but here's what I think.  [|)]
So far, suggestions of what they are include neuron/eye problems, bacteria, dead skin cells, and energy of some sort.

It isn't caused by neurons 'misfiring', like what you get when it's totally dark or when you lightly press your eye with a finger, since I've never heard of anyone seeing these dots in the dark. Plus, these dots aren't actually white, they're transparent. They just look white depending on the background they're seen against.

It's definitely NOT the bacteria floating on the surface of your eye. You can clearly distinguish between junk on your eye and these dots. Normally, the 'floaters' are not dots, have shape (worm-like), are a lot bigger, and you'd only see 2-3 in your field of vision. They typically drift very slowly in one direction only, and you can actually change their position by jerking your eye suddenly.

As for dead cells, hmm...
I'd think that cells floating in front of the retina would block light from reaching some cells, and these positions would appear black (no light = more signal = black). So if this were the case, you should see black dots drifting around your field of vision all the time. But these dots aren't black, and you can only see them when you 'focus', not all the time. So I think it can't be dead cells either.

And that just leaves energy as the most probable case......

[goingslow]

Inguma and sublime I dont think all white dots are the things I pointed to.  But when you see them all the time and the ones people report seeing wheenver they look in the sky often times are.

The person that said they would appear black that isnt true.  They dont.. ive sat tehre for hours looking at them after realizing they were on my eyes.  skin cells dont look black.  The sun on them and the fact they're clear make them look like white spots. Most likely because the sun is reflecting off them.

And the little pin points of light in the dark are common.  Ive heard many people talking about them.  I dont mean when you move aroudn in your sheets.  Often right when ig et to the point where im almost falling asleep ill see some far up in my room.  

I have no doubt there is visual energy.  But it is better to be able to realize you're seeing junk on your eye so you can compare it with whatever else you see.  Its always good to know all possibilities.  Thats what I think anyway.

[Jade]

I have no problem seeing the "white dots" and I don't really see auras or anything. They are actually like white squiggles, to me, they dart around. Very different from "floaters" that are within the vitreous of the eye (which I have more of every year, sigh).

As was mentioned earlier, they are described in Barbara Brennan's book "Hands of Light." Here is a brief description from the book:

"The easiest way to begin to observe the univeral energy field is to simply relax on your back in the grass on a nice sunny day and gaze at the blue sky. After some time you will be able to see the tiny globules of orgone making squiggly patterns against the blue sky. They seem to be tiny white balls, sometimes with a black spot, that appear for a second or two, leave a slight trail mark, and then disappear again."

[Athios]

quote:Originally posted by goingslow

The person that said they would appear black that isnt true.  They dont.. ive sat tehre for hours looking at them after realizing they were on my eyes.  skin cells dont look black.  The sun on them and the fact they're clear make them look like white spots. Most likely because the sun is reflecting off them.

I have no doubt there is visual energy.  But it is better to be able to realize you're seeing junk on your eye so you can compare it with whatever else you see.  Its always good to know all possibilities.  Thats what I think anyway.

Isn't that just a circular argument?
You're saying that skin cells don't appear black because the dots aren't black; and you're saying the dots you are seeing are skin cells because they aren't black......?  []

Look, I'm pretty sure we're all (right now) talking about the same kind of dots. So......what is it that makes you know the dots are in fact skin cells? What's the extra bit of info you have that we don't?

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Anyway, as it is, I don't have any reason to believe so. Bacteria (prokaryotic) should be much smaller than your own cells (eukaryotic), but we see much much more dots than those worm-like thingies.
Plus, since the bacteria should be on the surface of the eye, whereas the skin cells should be inside your eye (closer to the retina), your cells would look really big...  [?]

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Oh yeah, I just thought of a way to test this. Just empty a whole bottle of Visine into the your eyes, which will theoretically wash away all the crap out of your eyes. Now, if you don't go blind after this experience, and you can still see these dots, then they must not be 'floaters'.
Of course, I'm not crazy enough to try this.  []

[no_leaf_clover]

yeah.. and if it was something actually on your eye, it would move perfectly with your eye. wherever your eye looks, it goes. ive never seen the things you guys are talking about, but it sounds like if it was something like that, you would notice that it moved with your eye movement, and realize it was on your eye right away.

[goingslow]

Instead of getting into a silly debate about what is possible and how huge a particle will look etc etc.  Heres some sample particles and their sizes. http://www.peakpureair.com/particlesize.htm

tom posted it in another thread I put a link to earlier.

One last time if you want to pretend to be logical in order to say its impossible its anything but thousands of little energy beings thats fine.  Maybe you're right.. but you'll never know until you look at other possiblities honestly and rule them out.  

I didnt realy put this up in the first place to burst anyone's bubble.  Only give more information i've read on this very site as well as experienced on the "phenomenon"  people will believe whatever works for them.  

I already put up theres no way to say ALL white dots you see are these things.  Its very possible some of them aren't on the eye at all and are energy.  Its also ridiculus so say none of them are or everyone would know the difference.

[sublime]

ok....

i believe that the squiggly things that look somewhat like worms and follow where my eyes go are in fact bacteria. i have no question about that.

it's the "glittery" like white dots that for 1. all look the same basically (transparent (or white whatever) sparkling dots of light)and  2. do not follow the path of the movement of my eyes at all.

this leads me to believe that it is some form of energy that can be seen by the naked eye. but that also makes me wonder why everyone cant seem to see them?

seems like this topic is going around in circles... feel like i'm fighting with my girlfriend.

BAH!

p.s. no one said anything about the goose that i mentioned in the first post of this thread... that was pretty weird to me

[Athios]

goingslow
Hehehe, sorry, seems I went into 'logical overdrive'.  []
It's cos I'm taking a critical thinking/logic course, and I'm trying to make use of the concepts in the class (and I typed that post right after my lecture). And since I'm a bio/biochem major, the topic is just irresistably engaging.

Anyway, the website does not help a lot, since it gives absolute sizes. But since closer objects look bigger...
Well, I don't think I want to go there again, hahaha... let's just drop this.  [8D]

sublime
Maybe not everyone can see them because it requires non-physical vision? I seem to be able to see them better when I do whatever it is I do when I see auras (don't know how to describe).
Btw, I can only see the colourless etheric aura. I wonder if people with colour auric vision can see coloured dots?  [:O]

As for the goose...I have no idea. Maybe you saw the spirit of a dead leader of the goose flock??? Hehehe...your guess is as good as mine.  [|)]

[Event Horizon]

Not sure about the rules of linking to another astral forum but if you read on a bit here http://www.astralsociety.net/Forums/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=912 i asked about another weird thing i can see, so far no ones bothered to let me know what it might be, maybe someone here can tell me?

[Athios]

Event Horizon
Hey, thanks for the link.
Man, that thread is pretty messed up. I feel like everyone is just talk to themselves and not each other. Those guys don't seem really eager to make it clear what each is talking about either... so confusing...  [xx(]

Hmm... it's interesting to know that some people there can actually see coloured dots/worms.  [|)]

I've never noticed that wave/tunnel/tornado thing before. I think I should at least try before I guess what it is.

As for that gap-in-the-fingers thing... are you looking through the gap with your hand really close to your face? In that case, I think it's just an afterimage you're seeing...  []

I've never heard of the radiation thing you mentioned in your post. Hmm. Something for me to think about.

[Event Horizon]

Its not what you may think and im sure its not an after image but one possibility is interference patterns but i don't know much about them.

Copy from my post in other forum...

quote:I been wondering what this is I can see when looking through a very small gap in my fingers or any 2 objects close together, you need to look at a something light like your monitor and very slightly move the gap left to right or up and down and there will appear to be thin black lines or forked lines but when the slight movement is stopped they fade away, strangely enough they do still show at quite a distance.

I can see what looks like fork lightning but an odd black colour, Im pretty sure its not veins like when you have a bright light shined onto your eyes at an angle, this is different as you will notice they follow the angle of the two surfaces.

I found i could see it on any surfaces when out of focus but easier to see like above.

Heres a diagram as best i could do quickly in psp.

[Athios]

I don't know, I don't see anything when I try it. Maybe I"m not doing it correctly.

As for the diagram...
Isn't the gap between your fingers really small? You can actually see black lines that are THAT small compared to the gap???

[Rob]

Hey
it was a bright sunny day today, nice blue sky (until it was sprayed over), and I was watching the little white dots. I found that they did not track with my vision, but I was also able to see things on the surface of my eye at the same time, which did track with the movement of my eyes. The white dots that dart around in weirdy zigzags seemed to be a totally seperate phenomenon. I also took a crystal surrounded by a pulsed electromagnetic field (succor punch) and watched how the dots played on it. They seemed to be going in to the point to me - probably as it was charging itself. My friend thought they were going out of the tip - I'm not totally sure, but there was something going on. I mean, they seemed to pulse in and out, and move in swirls around it. I also was able to pulse energy out my hand, into the crystal, and watch as a little wave of white dots buzzed out the point. I tried manipulating them with my mind, to some success, so it could have just been that.
Also I took some orgone generating....things....out with me, but my eyes were getting tired by then, and I was having increasing difficulty seeing them. However, there was definately an effect - they seems to soak it out the atmosphere, and slowed the dots down. This was again, probably because they were charging. I did not have an opportunity to leave them out for a while and come back to check on them, well, maybe next time!
I think thats all....
oh yeah, and I did see some black dots, but they were a relatively very rare - perhaps, 1 for every 100 white ones.

adios amigos!

[goingslow]

quote:Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

yeah.. and if it was something actually on your eye, it would move perfectly with your eye. wherever your eye looks, it goes. ive never seen the things you guys are talking about, but it sounds like if it was something like that, you would notice that it moved with your eye movement, and realize it was on your eye right away.

1.  It isnt right on your eye a lot of them are floating in the water on your eye.

2.  You said if it was on your eye youd see it move when you move your eye.  Think about that and you'll see thats not what would happen.  it would stay on the same spot on your eye.. you see with your eye therefore when you'd move your eye it would appear to be in the same spot.  If something isnt on your eye.. IE look at the nearest piece of paper.  Move your eye.. there's movement and the thing is seen from a different point in your eye.

Now if it was on your eye.. since you see WITH your eye it wouldnt appear to move at all.    the fact that they dont seem to move around except for that swimming motion is actually proof they ARE on your eye.  Not the opposite.  Look at anything you know isnt on your eye.. you'll see movement when you shift your eye.  but if its on the right side of your pupil no matter where you shift it will stay in that spot therefore it doesn't appear to move.  if they were separate from you they would appear to move.