Anyone had an AP/OBE where something else was controlling them?

[thebigm]

Fell asleep on the couch about 9pm, woke up just over 6 hours later, 3:09am. No real recall of dreaming prior to this. Lay in bed for about half an hour, I had set my alarm to go off at 5:30am to try and get into the vibrational state but as I'd already had 6 hours sleep decided to try then.

I should probably say that to prior to this event I had a bad weekend, I was not in a good mental state, very fragile and negative in fact so was a little tentative to try AP when feeling this way as I heard like attracts like, still...

So from a simple breathing meditation I slipped into my first dream and became lucid almost immediately. Was in a room that had wooden walls, mahogany style, similar to a room you might expect in a castle or such. I was with my sister and a couple of others I can't remember and she was talking about how my late grandmother had been the first person to congratulate her on graduating on Facebook. At that point it struck me I was dreaming except I seemed to lose control instantly and felt a vibrational shift into an Astral Projection like experience (I can feel the difference now), I fell forward and sunk into the floor, I was in complete darkness and started floating rapidly to the right, something was moving me, I was not controlling this.

Quite scared I asked for protection from a higher being, I asked to for a being of light or a higher being to help me. My movement changed immediately, was less intense and I was floating upwards. I was still not in control but it felt less threatening and I felt I could wake myself if needed. I was turned around and floating facing a wall that was completely black (or just dark) except that it had loads of runic shapes glowing in a bright blue light. I felt like I had no control although part of me was 'going with it' to see what happened.

I was then moved through the wall and saw a large spiral, that looked like a zoomed in spiral molecular structure and finally I was zoomed in further and perceived the whole experiece in binary, or that's what it seemed, a pattern of 1's and 0's, matrix like.

At that point I seized control of the experience and ended it, waking up. There was a very sharp re-entry to the physical.

The runic wall looked like this:

Http://img.waffleimages.com/33aa9d6b...ic%20Runes.jpg

Has anyone had an experience like this?  With something or someone else controlling them?

Also, the runic wall, seemed relevant, anyone experienced similar?

[majour ka]

I used find I was often in a place where I felt like I was upside down or laying on my back facing upwards not seeing where i was going, or a feeling of being pulled by an unseen force and seemingly nothing can be done about it.

It hasn't happend to me for a long time but when it did it was like I was some where in between lucid dreaming and AP and neither here nor there.

I think the more work we do on ourselves, ie self analysis, mediation, building an awareness of our own energy and mind, we then gain for control of those travels and experiences.

I wouldn't give it to much thought, just let it happen. Nothing bad can happen  probably just a phase your moving through

[thebigm]

Hi majour ka,

Thanks for your response.

I too have had the blindness and disorientation, seems part and parcel and I am just learning.  It's just frustrating, I suppose in a way I'm maybe trying to walk before I can run expecting complete control from the off.

It happened again last night, although this time I was just frozen solid!  Fully lucid, but frozen solid.  I'd asked before sleeping for my spirit guide to come into my dreams (I'd never met one).  I fell into a lucid dream and saw a woman watching me, hiding behind a chair, I walked over, spoker to her thinking she was someone else and she looked at me and walked away, without speaking.  When she was quite far away I shouted asking if she was my spirit guide (recalling the previous nights request) and she turned round and looked at me, knowingly.  I wanted to walk over to her to talk more, but I was frozen, couldn't move and was losing lucidity, I knew I was waking up.  I tried a few clarity statements and that made it last a bit longer but then I lost it and woke up.  Was awake for about an hour after thinking about it.

[proyect_outzone]

This is a very interesting OBE experience.

With something or someone else controlling them?

I have often OBEs, where i just drift with constand speed in one direction (random direction, upwards and dowanwards included). If this happens, no wall or floor or ceiling stops me. I drift just through. In night, i had several OBEs in succession, in which i drifted in random directions and woke up in own body just to drift again in a random direction.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Back in the early days I had lots of control loss by entities. This was during the nightmare stage I went through 2 or so years in length. After mastering the fears ALL SELF INDUCED I had total control and have since. 40 years have passed since that time and almost nothing has stopped me.
Im not posting the details on that recent 1 occasion yet.
While perfectly lucid, I couldn't move though...

[majour ka]

I think we also have to keep in mind that we are learning to attain measures of control and understanding of very natural, BUT also different states of reality from the one we focus and navigate daily...and we therefore have to accept and except there to be some differences in how we experience those realties, especially when we consider that so much of our experiences in those states are subjective in nature and rely on our own conciseness  and awareness of subtle mind...I hope that made sense LOL 

With time it all gets clearer and more easy to create and navigate 

[thebigm]

Thanks everyone for their responses on this.

I know that I am relatively new to the topic of AP and new to the experiences so I can't expect to have control or even to have these experiences last too long.

It's just great to hear from other posters that they went through similar things and it's alright.  Nothing to be scared of.

Cheers