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withintheruins

hey everyone, I had my first astral experience last night. I suffer from sleep paralysis and a few months ago while researching it I stumbled upon astral projection. I haven't stopped reading since. well, last night I was trying to go to sleep and I felt the vibrating sensation. I heard an extremely loud sound I couldn't even begin to explain. I immediately realized wow its about to happen. I tried to roll over and I was out. It was very scary. I seemed to be walking 100 miles an hour. The whole time it was going on I could hear almost like a bull snarling and it made it very unpleasant.  well I had started on the couch and went to the bedroom door. as soon as I touched the handle I flew back into my body. I was very scared but I tried it again.. every thing went the same(vibes,rolled,snarling etc). i looked back at my body .this time I went through the bedroom door and stood over my wife yelling to wake her up. I grabbed her hand and the only way to describe it is I pulled her soul out of her body and danced with her for a few moments. Then returned to my body.It was very scary the whole time.. my house seemed way darkest than usual. The snarling sound was very unnerving.  it was almost right in my ear. I felt paranoid/watched the whole time. Afterwards I went to sleep and havld the most realistic dream I've ever had. my 2 year old kept walking away ..following something.. I could sense evil. I woke up from that around 1 and I was scared to go back to sleep.


curtis.fred

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please refer to this post 3 below this one i answeared questions about sleep pryalis and why its such a bad idea to do it while in that state. Doing astral projection while in sleep paralysis is a very dumb idea. Common side effects, feels like your being watched, you mite see things, can last from 5 to 30 mins, may see entities dark demon like, that is the common side effect of sleep paralysis look it up on Wikipedia, there no other entity around, i never ap in sleep paralysis because you will get the same side effects as you are your explaining.

refer to this post also to see my reply on another member who ap in sleep paralysis, i leave a clear explanation Wikipedia link on why people experience this every time ---> http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/thoughts_on_my_first_and_frightening_experience-t38468.0.html

withintheruins

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I didn't do it while in paralysis .. what I was sayinis i was reading about paralysis brought meto reading about astral travel

Astralsuzy

I do not see anything wrong to ap in the sp state.  I used to do it a lot when I used to sp.  You do not have to get sp to see awful things.  You could be meditating and you can see awful things.  When you see awful things do not worry about it.  It cannot hurt you.  I have seen awful things but I did not let that stop me to ap.  I rarely see awful things now.

curtis.fred

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well people have reported seeing demons, hearing sounds, eneties, everything to do with sp, while trying to do ap, i ve see these posts spammed saying omfg i seen a monster while in ap while in sp, ??? well  ur going to see stuff cause sp common side effects are as i described. WEll i am trying to say when ur in sp your going to see awfull things and hear awwfull things cause that is the common side effect of sp, so i would not recomend doing ap in sp. Also sorry u dident make it clear in ur first post that u were doing ap while in sp, my bad but i hope i did answear someones question reading this : ). My bad for not reading clearly at the top post


withintheruins

yeah it helped.. sorry for not making it clear. I'm typing on a cell phone. I want to keep trying though it seems like something that could be amazing. I told my wife about it. she now thinks I'm crazy lol

Astral-Trea

Quote from: curtis.fred on October 07, 2012, 16:07:10
well people have reported seeing demons, hearing sounds, eneties, everything to do with sp, while trying to do ap, i ve see these posts spammed saying omfg i seen a monster while in ap while in sp, ??? well  ur going to see stuff cause sp common side effects are as i described. WEll i am trying to say when ur in sp your going to see awfull things and hear awwfull things cause that is the common side effect of sp, so i would not recomend doing ap in sp. Also sorry u dident make it clear in ur first post that u were doing ap while in sp, my bad but i hope i did answear someones question reading this : ). My bad for not reading clearly at the top post



Most things I have read say that people see things like that while just IN the SP state, physical eyes open, and not able to move.. they get scared and fight it instead of just relaxing.. I believe its our minds that create these manifestations, which can also happen during AP. But the common thing is fear in both situations and thats the biggest thing to overcome.. if you are afraid and are expecting to see or hear scary things.. then you very possibly will due to that fact according to my research. Also, you are in SP everynight while you dream.. to keep you from acting out your dreams.. its just that some people get stuck in it when they wake up for a little while. I believe that while AP, your body is in a natural SP state.. therefore, you cannot AP without being in SP.. I don't know this for a fact, but I think possibly the same thing could apply where your body would start acting things out that you were doing in the astral planes. It is a defense mechanism, not something to fear.

To withintheruins, Congratz on your experiences! But one thing I noticed is before you ever mentioned the snarling, you talked about how very scary everything was. That could have possibly been the reason why you felt the way you did. I have also heard that the best thing to do in those situations is to get as far from your body as possible.. think about a place far away and go there. The part about you pulling your wife's astral body out and dancing with it is very intriquing.. I was wondering if it was just asleep the whole time or did it seem awake and concious while you were dancing with it? Amazing stuff.

Lionheart

Quote from: Astral-Trea on October 11, 2012, 16:38:56
Most things I have read say that people see things like that while just IN the SP state, physical eyes open, and not able to move.. they get scared and fight it instead of just relaxing..
You are correct here Astral Trea. At this point you have hit thought = action. So, if you are thinking scary things,  then scary things you shall find!
The key is to be aware of what is really happening to you. The first time it happens in a person's life it is always a scary event. This is exactly why people speak of being attacked in their sleep, being abducted, seeing demons etc. Which makes perfect sense. But after you experience it more and more, you get to the point whereas you realize it is a natural "sign post" of something extraordinary that you are about to experience. 
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  :-)

withintheruins

@astral-trea it was very much conscious. I asked if she remember me coming in and she now thinks I'm crazy. I thought she would remember and too experience it. alot of people talk about being pulled from their body and I was thinking maybe I did that to her.maybe she just doesn't remember.

Astral-Trea

Quote from: withintheruins on October 12, 2012, 19:25:14
@astral-trea it was very much conscious. I asked if she remember me coming in and she now thinks I'm crazy. I thought she would remember and too experience it. alot of people talk about being pulled from their body and I was thinking maybe I did that to her.maybe she just doesn't remember.

Wow.. very interesting.. I have a pretty open communication with my wife about that stuff and she has had one spontaneous OBE recently.. not sure how much you talk to yours about it but maybe she is just thinking it was a dream or she was in the dream state of conciousness instead of fully concious.. meaning she was dreaming when you pulled her out and that experience got mixed in with everything else that we normally forget so easily due to the state we are in while dreaming (non-lucidly.) But then on the other hand, I have heard that we AP naturally while dreaming so if thats the case, she shouldn't have been there, unless she hadnt started dreaming yet. (just a theory)

I won't go down the road of it being her etheric body because I dont believe that can exit the body like the astral body can unless someone dies.

How did her astral body look compared to her physical? Did she look younger, have a glow? etc.

withintheruins

I couldn't really tell. everything seemed extremely dark and hazy

Astral-Trea

Quote from: withintheruins on October 12, 2012, 19:54:35
I couldn't really tell. everything seemed extremely dark and hazy

Gotcha.. well again congrats on what sounds like a really cool experience!! Look forward to hearing about any future ones u have.. :)

withintheruins

I've been trying every night since. but when I get to the vibrations I start shivering and tense up. I always lose the feeling.

Astral-Trea

Quote from: withintheruins on October 12, 2012, 20:00:26
I've been trying every night since. but when I get to the vibrations I start shivering and tense up. I always lose the feeling.

Just try to relax and ignore it, have happy thought and let things happen naturally.. I know its hard but that seems to be what does it. Also, I hear visualizing yourself giving off pure bright white light or having a bubble of pure white protective light helps as well. You do this as you are relaxing each time. Good luck!

withintheruins