Concentration

[M4RT1N]

The biggest problem i have with astral projection is that i lose concentration whenever im attempting it. Tom Campbell said that sugar clouds your consciousness and makes it very hard to focus. so if i don't consume any sugar anymore that will make it easier to concentrate, right ? right now im concentrating on my breathing and listening to binaural beats just waiting for F10, not doing anything else. any way i could improve my chances of APing ? What do you concentrate on ?

[M4RT1N]

try a mantra or a picture of your choice

as regards tom campbell: he says that it's about 5 hours or so until he gets 'clear' again form sugar intake, so you just need to abstain from it this period of time before your attempt

i tried using a mantra but i always fall asleep (for obvious reasons)

Tom said that if you don't eat any for 3 months and then eat it again you're going to notice the difference,there's a reason why he chose to use 3 months instead of 5 hours as an example. it's because after 5 hours it just starts to lose it's effect but after 3 months its almost completely gone from the body.

[Astralsuzy]

Have you tried to listen to the beats for a while then not to listen to it.  I am not able to ap listening to something.  I can do it but I find it is harder.  We are all different and what works for one person may not work for another.  That is interesting what you say about sugar.  I do not know if I believe that.  I eat sugar but only a little bit after dinner.  Occasionally I might have a biscuit.  I have gone out of habit of eating a lot of sugary things.  I do not like eating it much anymore as it is too sweet.  I am able to concentrate.

[M4RT1N]

Have you tried to listen to the beats for a while then not to listen to it.  I am not able to ap listening to something.  I can do it but I find it is harder.  We are all different and what works for one person may not work for another.  That is interesting what you say about sugar.  I do not know if I believe that.  I eat sugar but only a little bit after dinner.  Occasionally I might have a biscuit.  I have gone out of habit of eating a lot of sugary things.  I do not like eating it much anymore as it is too sweet.  I am able to concentrate.

I think Tom talks about sugar in one of his "Tom Campbell in Ireland" videos here's part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqkHfLnNiBk you should watch all 6 parts, in one of them he talks about sugar, if you don't want to spend 6 hours watching the videos then here's a short video of him talking about sugar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CFo5ubfNsg


What happened to Volgerle's post ?

[Lionheart]

 I'll repost this part for Volgerie and extend an apology to him as well. His post must have got deleted while attempting to delete all the spam on this site today. 
I take full responsibility for that and once again apologize!  His input is ALWAYS welcomed here!

"try a mantra or a picture of your choice
as regards tom campbell: he says that it's about 5 hours or so until he gets 'clear' again from sugar intake, so you just need to abstain from it this period of time before your attempt"

[Xanth]

The biggest problem i have with astral projection is that i lose concentration whenever im attempting it. Tom Campbell said that sugar clouds your consciousness and makes it very hard to focus. so if i don't consume any sugar anymore that will make it easier to concentrate, right ? right now im concentrating on my breathing and listening to binaural beats just waiting for F10, not doing anything else. any way i could improve my chances of APing ? What do you concentrate on ?

Don't worry about the sugar thing for now.

You're not losing focus because of sugar. 
You're losing focus because you don't know how to hold your focus for long.

Work on that.  This is meditation.

[M4RT1N]

Don't worry about the sugar thing for now.

You're not losing focus because of sugar. 
You're losing focus because you don't know how to hold your focus for long.

Work on that.  This is meditation.

it's so hard to find time to meditate, there's always people in my house if they knew i was meditating they would think im crazy  , when they're gone i can either meditate or attempt to AP so i usually try to AP. i think i'll do a transcendental meditation in the morning and before sleep. will binaural beats help in meditation ?

[Lionheart]

The biggest problem i have with astral projection is that i lose concentration whenever im attempting it. Tom Campbell said that sugar clouds your consciousness and makes it very hard to focus. so if i don't consume any sugar anymore that will make it easier to concentrate, right ? right now im concentrating on my breathing and listening to binaural beats just waiting for F10, not doing anything else. any way i could improve my chances of APing ? What do you concentrate on ?

Once again it comes down to Belief. If you believe this is going to hamper you, it will.

I drink a beer, sometimes 2 per day. I drink a cup of Coffee before I attempt a Phase Session. Sometimes I Phase right after i eat. According to many books, I definitely am not doing the right thing and yet i am successful.

Like I say here all the time, when you read something here, try to filter through what is being said. Stop for a second and "See Through" what they are trying to tell you. Tom could have high blood sugar or low blood sugar, you don't know. Sugar could effect him drastically, whereas other people not a bit. MJ, my better half, goes to bed after drinking a cup of Coffee and sleeps like a baby. I know I can't do that.  

Possibly the "See through" message here is not to try to Phase/OBE when you are pumped full of adrenaline.

[Szaxx]

Your body produces sugars from the carbs you eat. The brain relies on sugars to function. Taking all the sugar producing foodstuffs from your diet will kill you eventually.
Reduced intake may help some people but definately not ALL.
My intake is larger than most and it has a positive effect on staying aware and alert when compared to those days with a lower intake.
It's a balance thats required.
Tom made a valid point, although I tried it, the effect was detrimental for me giving it nearly a months trial.
Being very active it gets used so this may have been the opposing reason.
Think it will prevent success in some way, it will, you THOUGHT it.
Think it will keep you aware longer and let your body sleep, it will. You thought it.
There's a pattern here, thoughts manifest.

[Xanth]

it's so hard to find time to meditate, there's always people in my house if they knew i was meditating they would think im crazy  , when they're gone i can either meditate or attempt to AP so i usually try to AP. i think i'll do a transcendental meditation in the morning and before sleep. will binaural beats help in meditation ?

If people think you're crazy for doing something as innocent and helpful as meditation, that's THEIR problem.  Not yours.
If I had worried about what people thought of me for what I do, I would have never learned all that I have learned. 
Don't do something for fear of what others might think of you...

Also, forget about Binaurals... just meditate. 

Transcendental meditation is simply one of an infinite forms of meditation.  They're all different paths up the same mountain.  Pick one and try it... if it doesn't work for you, try another and another and another.  Eventually you'll find one that works for you.

[justin35ll]

I was watching one of Tom Campbell's videos on youtube recently and he says that you should practice meditation in many different places so after a while you you will be able to do it anywhere anytime no matter if there's noise or not. I always thought I needed complete silence to meditate, but since that is almost impossible I took the earplugs out and meditated while my parents were watching tv in the other room. If you focus enough and don't let the noise get to you, it will simply be background noise and you can do it.

And also I have been using Robert Monroe's gateway series again and it is helping me with my meditation and getting me into f10 much quicker

[Bluefirephoenix]

I don't eat much sugar and have focus difficulties at phasing level 21 or so. It's a habitual thing that the mind is trained to go dormant when your body is that relaxed.  It's  a matter of breaking that habit.  Your consciousness does not have to sleep.  As Xanth said focus is something you learn how to do, it has nothing to do with what your eating.  Focus on the skill building and not all the gimick stuff going around. You have to put the time and work into it.

[M4RT1N]

I was watching one of Tom Campbell's videos on youtube recently and he says that you should practice meditation in many different places so after a while you you will be able to do it anywhere anytime no matter if there's noise or not. I always thought I needed complete silence to meditate, but since that is almost impossible I took the earplugs out and meditated while my parents were watching tv in the other room. If you focus enough and don't let the noise get to you, it will simply be background noise and you can do it.

And also I have been using Robert Monroe's gateway series again and it is helping me with my meditation and getting me into f10 much quicker

what's the gateway series ? i can't find it.

[justin35ll]

It's Robert Monroe's hemi-sync gateway series where he uses binaural beats to guide you into different states of awareness. It is pretty expensive, but you can find it and download it online pretty easily

[M4RT1N]

It's Robert Monroe's hemi-sync gateway series where he uses binaural beats to guide you into different states of awareness. It is pretty expensive, but you can find it and download it online pretty easily

all 8 "waves" together cost $1560 !!!!!!! WTF

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/catalog/gateway-experience

[justin35ll]

Like I said they are pretty easily downloadable as a torrent ...as much as I would love to support TMI I don't have 1500$ though

[Astralsuzy]

all 8 "waves" together cost $1560 !!!!!!! WTF

http://www.monroeinstitute.org/catalog/gateway-experience

That is a ridiculous amount of money to spend.  You should be able to ap without spending a lot of money.  You can spend a lot of money and still not ap.  There is no guarantee by spending a large sum of money that you will ap.  I think some people take advantage of people and try to make a lot of money from it. 

[Lionheart]

That is a ridiculous amount of money to spend.  You should be able to ap without spending a lot of money.  You can spend a lot of money and still not ap.  There is no guarantee by spending a large sum of money that you will ap.  I think some people take advantage of people and try to make a lot of money from it.  

I am not telling you to buy or not buy. This is up to you.

I have found, at least with myself, because I know myself, that if I put money into something, I will see that thing through.

I am not advertising for anyone by saying that. I want to make this point perfectly clear. I have bought Astral programs, Binaural Beats, Iso Chronic tones MP3s, my Laxman. All kinds of things to experiment with. I find that that works for me personally. I have even been accused by some members here of being some kind of advertising plant/mark because of bringing them up.  But if my experimenting can help others find their way, then I am more than happy to continue with them.

If I am willing to put out the money, then I am READY to see the results. At least mentally prepared for them!

You all know what makes you tick. Everyone knows what it takes to create that will to succeed. It really comes down to finding that "key" and then riding it to success!  

[Stookie_]

The easiest way to hone concentration I've found:

Take a string and tie about 30 or 40 knots in it. Sit down in a comfortable position (don't lie down) with the string in your hands, close your eyes, and think about 1 thing of your choosing. It can be an image, a mantra, concentrating on your breath... just don't make it too complicated. Every time that you notice an unrelated thought or drift away from your object of concentration, pass a knot through your fingers and come back to your thought. Start off simple, like 5 minutes, and when you're done record the number of knots you passed. Do it once in the morning and once in the evening, and as you get better you'll see the number of knots getting smaller and smaller until you can bump up the length of time you do it. Keep at it and you'll naturally start seeing improvements to your concentration during non-physical experiences and daily life. This may sound very boring, but if you do it earnestly, the rewards are huge. It's free, and unlike binaurals, it's guaranteed if you put in the work. I've never heard anyone say that this doesn't work for them, only people who benefited and wished they would have done it sooner.

[Astralsuzy]

I am not telling you to buy or not buy. This is up to you.

I have found, at least with myself, because I know myself, that if I put money into something, I will see that thing through.

I am not advertising for anyone by saying that. I want to make this point perfectly clear. I have bought Astral programs, Binaural Beats, Iso Chronic tones MP3s, my Laxman. All kinds of things to experiment with. I find that that works for me personally. I have even been accused by some members here of being some kind of advertising plant/mark because of bringing them up.  But if my experimenting can help others find their way, then I am more than happy to continue with them.

If I am willing to put out the money, then I am READY to see the results. At least mentally prepared for them!

You all know what makes you tick. Everyone knows what it takes to create that will to succeed. It really comes down to finding that
"key" and then riding it to success!  

Lionheart what you did was fine.  It was a lot of money but that was O.K.  The gadget would have cost a lot of money to make so it was worth it.  You can see the value of money of how much it was worth.  Just like a TV for an example.  What I am against is charging a lot of money when the product does not cost much to put together.  I could be wrong but that is what I think.