RTZ + Bonus stuff

[Gandalf]

>Then I look around his head and I see a red helium filled balloon floating near the ceiling.
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Hiya Georgie! Ya wanna balloon Georgie? I can see you want it... oh boy you do! They all float...


Sorry, couldnt resist it (You have to have read Stephen King's IT or watched the tv version to know what I'm on about here!).

Just as long as you don't meet any evil looking clowns on your travels, you'll be fine!

Douglas

[Greytraveller]

Hey Wonderboy that was a cool projection. [8D]
Good idea to experiment on friends who might be able to verify part of it later on.
About the RTZ. Occasionally when I have a projection into the (ethereal) RTZ I have noticed that objects were either missing or were out of place. However, (in my view) this is mostly because of faulty perception on my part. Most people agree that objects in the RTZ are relatively fixed and un-malleable. (That is why it is hard for people who project to manipulate physical objects ?) Anyways consensus opinion holds that objects are very malleable only on the astral plane(s).

[weagle]

it could be a projection of the mind, goto mysticweb.org signup for astral course they explain it there that if you do awareness during the day you will have less proejction from the mind and the more real the ap will look.  Some items can be really there but then if the dream/daydream thing kicks in it starts putting things that are not there.  It could also be a symbol of some sort as well sometimes placed as that.

[wonderboy]

Hi everyone,
  I projected in the RTZ with no real 'plan' because it has been a couple months since my last projection and I wanted to get back out there. Anyway I shoot out of my body into my room and go outside through the window to explore the neighborhood and fly around, mostly I'm just elated I successfully projected after numerous failed attempts in the last 2 weeks. So I'm curious whether my roommates are home, and I go through one's window. He is sitting at his computer and I get inspired to get his attention because he still believes that projecting is fake. I scream I wave my arms and fly around him. This is all pretty normal, and he doesn't have the slightest clue. Then I look around his head and I see a red helium filled balloon floating near the ceiling. I go up and grab it which is weird because you can't manipulate anything in the rtz and would normally shoot right through it, not to mention when I went to his room he was sitting in front of the computer where he should be, but no red balloon in sight. Well I hit him with the astral balloon a couple times, got bored and flew out the window. But I guess my question is that those of you who find yourself in the RTZ fairly often, do you see objects or items that aren't there on the physical and find them to be malleable in your astral form. It was just something new for me and was surprised because I never intended to create the balloon like I have intended other astral items in the past. Thanks,
Wonderboy