Is there any ex-atheists or ex-naturalists that found astral projection works?

[david14433]

I am looking to find someone who would have never believed astral projection in a million years (practically forever), yet later on they found that astral projection absolutely works and is for real. Is there anyone with a good testimony here they would like to share?

Thanks.

[Anonymouse]

I haven't fully "get there", at least I suspect so, I'm not sure.

Before I knew about OBE, I would have never believe in such a thing. I used to think we are just flesh. We die, and we feed the plants, animals around us. That's it. I didn't believe in god, energy... absolutely nothing. I have to admit, I used to believe it was all "crap".

Complete skeptic.

And here I am, experiencing things that to me are obvious. Reading from honest people.

But I do believe this is something each of us have to discover. If I could talk to my own self 2 years ago, and tell my younger self about OBE's. I would have told my self to shut up!, and tell me another story.


P.S: Listen to some of William Buhlman interviews, he was a skeptic too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJRVeg5LgyE&list=PL3FE6EF71959D44FE

[Xanth]

Regardless of your beliefs, you should always have an open mind about things.

A skeptic with a closed mind, someone who refuses to even try something... well, they've already lost.

[Szaxx]

Thats the problem with humanity. Too controlled to believe anything that their immediate peers tell them.
Its unfortunate that all religions share differing views amd are willing to die with their ingrained beliefs.
The new world order thats splashed over the internet will also be a control ideal.
Its up to the individual to see the light for themselves.
This art of projection is in mostly all religions but this is steered away from.
Until the day a majority understand the art it will be shunned.
We are beginning to understand more and the interest is increasing. Lets hope this continues.

[justin35ll]

Growing up as a kid I always had an interest in ghosts and paranormal stuff, but never any experiences to believe it was real.
I grew up riding skateboards, playing paintball, being a basic punk kid (hasn't changed much lol)
It definitely has to be discovered individually and I'm glad I did

But a few years ago, if I knew I was going to be meditating twice a day I would have said you're crazy

[confusedartist]

I have a friend who, when he was very young, got a concussion during a football game and said he floated above his body, looking at himself. While he's not an atheist, this was when he was about 8 years old and didn't believe in any psychic phenomena as far as I'm concerned.

[moorland]

I'm an atheist, and I have been for years as I've experienced a variety of phenomena. Atheism is only the disbelief in a god/gods. It has nothing to do with materialism, though the two go hand in hand for the most part.

The non-physical dimension is just another part of nature, and any reasonable person would accept the evidence provided by repeated experiments (projections).

You just don't have to accept this idea of an objective, universal-monotheistic Hebrew war god reclining somewhere in omnipotence and indifference.

[Bedeekin]

You just don't have to accept this idea of an objective, universal-monotheistic Hebrew war god reclining somewhere in omnipotence and indifference.

Nice.

[Volgerle]

Atheism is only the disbelief in a god/gods. It has nothing to do with materialism, though the two go hand in hand for the most part.

you're a notable exception (congrats!), Atheist = staunch materialist in 99% of all cases

[Volgerle]

Btw (and looking at the thread title now) isn't it amazing how they literally kindapped (and misuse) the word "Nature" in "Naturalist" as an almost synonym for Materialist/Atheist nowadays? Same applies to Freethinker btw.

[teagueblue]

There are still materialists that practice the OBE, but call it the phase. At obe4u.com.

I don't believe that way, but I respect their right to their opinion.

[Volgerle]

There are still materialists that practice the OBE, but call it the phase. At obe4u.com.

I don't believe that way, but I respect their right to their opinion.

correct, but as much as I've seen and heard about it, their forum isn't very populated, just Summerlander acting as dictator-moderator and very few regular posters (not sure if all of them are materialists)

[teagueblue]

correct, but as much as I've seen and heard about it, their forum isn't very populated, just Summerlander acting as dictator-moderator and very few regular posters (not sure if all of them are materialists)

Yes. My opinion as well! So funny.

[Bedeekin]

correct, but as much as I've seen and heard about it, their forum isn't very populated, just Summerlander acting as dictator-moderator and very few regular posters (not sure if all of them are materialists)

Anyone who actually diligently explores nonphysical travel can't help but run into problems if they strictly believe in pure materialism. It's evident that those on the forum struggle with this issue knowing they can only bring it up in the 'Astral etc' topics... and doing that will lose the respect of Raduga, who is also walling himself in based upon his belief in pure materialism.

The best policy is to leave it open to interpretation... those repeating the experience over and over again invariably come to the same conclusion.

[david14433]

Thanks all you guys for your responses.

[Xanth]

Ex-athiests?  I'm a current athiest.
I find astral projection to work quite fine... 

[majour ka]

I grew up with a fascination of science, nature and biology. I can't deal much in faith, never have and doubt I will. I like to have good evidence or for something to make rational sense before I believe anything entirely. I remember thinking when I was around 10 years old religion is just for weak people that need something to believe in.

I'm now a busy working psychic and medium and have astral traveled and OBd many many times and can testify for the absolute realty of it. I have seen physical matter dissolve and change in front of my very eyes. Which was witnessed by some one else with me and could tell you enough stories to fill a book. I've been privileged to wittiness incredible acts of healing, with the scientific proof to back up the phenomena. Before and after blood tests and scans etc.

Interestingly enough the scientist that devised the theory of evelution with Darwin, Dr A.R wallace also studied, examined and tested spirtitulism and the communication with people passed over through a medium,  the contuation of the human soul and it's survival beyond the physical death. He argued fiercely that he found its realty to be as real and aswell proven as the facts if any other science. Many if his colleges agreed the same.

[majour ka]

Ex-athiests?  I'm a current athiest.
I find astral projection to work quite fine... 

Best answer here !