i need your help in astral.

[swandance]

This topic is closed

[Fairywindblues]

Good luck. Why not try to call for a guide? Someone may be around to help you. Anyways, my photo is in my icon. I'm not on Moscow time, am in the U.S., so my schedule may conflict with any efforts I may try. I'm Russian, too, though.  Always get excited seeing a fellow Russian even when it's just online.

[embrace]

Hello, my name is Mikhail, I'm 26 years old, I live in Moscow, I need your help in the astral plane, someone takes my energy from my astral body, I ask you to come to me in the astral plane, and see who it hurts me. That you find me in the astral plane, I can give the link to my photo.

http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/1104/b0/9831446fcd34.jpg

Oh, I see you wrote on astral forum, too. I just replied to you there: http://astralforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=424 (my login there is "theWitch")

[Bedeekin]

Hello Mikhail... No one is taking Astral energy from you.

What makes you think Astral energy is being taken away from you?

[Astralzombie]

I'm new this whole energy talk but I would certainly hope that no one can take energy from us. Sneaky rascals.

[ChopstickFox]

You are both your worst enemy and your best defense out there. You can overcome with your belief that you can overcome it.

[Astralsuzy]

You are both your worst enemy and your best defense out there. You can overcome with your belief that you can overcome it.

I agree. 

[mr_coffee]

I totally agree with the people above who mentioned you are your morse enemy.  Anything you experience bad in the non-physical plane is a result of your own fears and limitations.  If you push love on anything it will immediately dimension. 

What has caused this feeling of someone stealing your energy? Has it always been like this or something recent?  What do you do when you're in the non-physical? 

[Bedeekin]

what if you consider that there is no energy to steal?

This is how I have continued all my practicing for years. It wasn't until I scanned the first part of Robert Bruce's book that the idea of an energy was put forward. Personally speaking the idea of a needed energy source is an unnecessary chain around one's neck.. like the silver chord or negative entities.

[Fairywindblues]

One of my friends recently told me about a demonic entity in the 3D. She said she was laying around, lights on, watching tv, when someone grabbed her and started speaking in tongues in her ear. She naturally assumed it was a demon because she's very Christian. She demanded that it go away in the name of Jesus, but really, the name for Jesus is just her pushing pure love on the negative entity because she believes that Jesus is pure love. In reality, if there is something "bad" or "negative" out there, the worst it can do is take some of your energy. And you only let something have your energy by surrendering to it or letting it feed off of you. This is why, like an above poster said, you need to use love as the driving force to banishing anything that you feel is metaphysically attacking you.

[Bedeekin]

What do you think this 'energy' is? and what would a 'negative entity' need it for? What does it do with it?

What is 3D?

Questions questions.  Sorry... I just want to know your interpretation.

[Astralzombie]

What do you think this 'energy' is? and what would a 'negative entity' need it for? What does it do with it?

What is 3D?

Questions questions.  Sorry... I just want to know your interpretation.

I think there is something to this energy business but it's not what we consider energy.

I don't really know how to say it. But it's like not wanting to deal with something during an OOBE, some people envision themselves forcing pure love or something like that. I just see it as not giving it the attention it wants.

It's isn't that they are taking energy so much as they are wasting our potential if too much attention is given to it. Does that make sense?

Think about what it took to create the light sabre. It may not have been actual energy but it took something to materialize the light sabre. Intent isn't a satisfying answer because what is the power behind the intent?

[Bedeekin]

It took thought to do it. I never think about using an energy source to create things or do anything nonphysically for that matter.

In the same way I'm not consciously aware that I am using an energy source when I think in physical existence. Obviously I am burning calories and using oxygen.

[ChopstickFox]

Energy was one of those things I became familiar with before I noticed any sort of connection to anything else. It was back in drama class in middle school. We were told to imagine a ball in our hands. Make it so real with our minds that we could feel it. Imagine its texture, weight, color... And in doing that I'd get little tingly feelings and found that if I had enough belief/intent on it, others could feel the tingling as well. For lack of a better word, I adopted the term energy for it.

I've always been a bit skeptical about it, like I try to be with a lot of things. Sometimes when relaxing or being stressed out I would chill and imagine pure energy rising into my body and expel the negativity. It's a visualization tool. I'm sure everything that can be done with "energy" can be done without it.

As for helping others by sending "energy" call it what you will. Intent, belief, prayer, it doesn't matter what you call it. Everything helps.

It's just a word, it's the intent behind it that give the tool its power.

At least that's my interpretation. ^^;

[Bedeekin]

That's a fair interpretation.

I can't help but imagine two people meeting in the astral. One believes that they need energy to do something.. and there is another who just does it. They are set a task to punch a hole through a wall... the first one wins an astral wedge of cheese. Who wins the cheese? The one who spends energy creating energy or the one who just does it?

[ChopstickFox]

Good question. It certainly has potential to be a hinder. If the person believes they need to cast some magic then they would have to, wouldn't they?

[mr_coffee]

Nice explanation Chopstickfox!

I soon found out my lack of intent was the only limiting factor in the non-physical.  This also is the case in the physical world when you think about it.  You can say something and not mean it at all but when every part of your existence wants something to happen, especially in the non-physical, it will. 

I also noticed in the non-physical certain tasks were easily achieved without much thought into it or intent such as flying, creating objects in the same vibrational energy level as you are in, etc.  But I found traveling from 1 energy dimension to another requires much more intent to actually make it occur. 

For example, I asked to be taken to the main source of all energy and as soon as I made that request I had fear and doubt in my mind so of course when I opened my eyes I was floating in the same spot as If I didn't make a request at all.  Although I can easily teleport within the same energy frequency that my non-physical body is experiencing.  Several OBE gurus have also came to this same conclusion.  For example one person mentioned when he enters a higher frequency energy environment than his own non-physical energy body he would be blinded by the surroundings or feel a crushing sensation but if he clearly makes the request (intent) to adapt or accept this energy he can explore again without any issues.

When I hear people mention anything about destroying, fighting, or doing something non-loving in these environments to overcome a fear I feel is the worst thing they could do and something very human in nature to perform which isn't ideal in these non-physical environments.

In conclusion, I don't believe we have a limited amount of energy in the non-physical, the energy is limitless and beyond our comprehension.  Thought/Intent is energy, emotions are energy, everything is energy! You can even measure love/fear in the physical world.  Love has a high frequency and fear has a low frequency.  The only thing to fear in the non-energy is yourself.

[ChopstickFox]

Nice explanation Chopstickfox!
In conclusion, I don't believe we have a limited amount of energy in the non-physical, the energy is limitless. 

That's the beauty of it. We create our limitations.