Jesus Christ

goingslow · June 01, 2003, 08:41:09

He was more concerned with his appearance than I imagined he would be.

"Do i look fat" "is my hair too long" etc.

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no_leaf_clover · June 01, 2003, 09:46:00

lmao! you're not serious, right goingslow?

sublime · June 01, 2003, 11:27:23

hah. my dad said that when he was younger he had an EXTREMELY vivid dream and he was behind a man in a long white robe with long hair. he said he just felt that it was jesus.

beav31is · June 01, 2003, 11:33:49

Given the extreme ignorance of people 2000 years ago, he might not have had powers at all.

Or he had some powers (telekinesis, changing the form of matter, etc), but thats no reason to think he went to the highest level. That would be VERY HARD while being a human and is just not necessary to do what the bible claims, not that I believe it just because its written.

Allanon · June 01, 2003, 12:47:40

What other spiritual leader do you know that rose from the dead and had witnessses for it??? That is what it boils down to. If Christ truly conquered the void by himself than he is of the "highest" level.

no_leaf_clover · June 01, 2003, 13:16:07

there is a good amount of evidence that jesus was never crucified, and that he had several children who later became kings and queens all over europe. there was once a lot more of such evidence, but the catholic church has been paying people off and destroying such things. a few statues and letters were discovered in the basement of a european church showing jesus holding his own children and some letters between them. later, after the catholic church found out, the statues and letters suddenly *disappeared*, and the guy who found them went off and became a hermit, suddenly owning a huge house and having lots of cash, but never talking to people about his discovery. this has been documented several times on tv. the one i'm referring to came on sci-fi, but i can't remember the name. if i saw it i could remember it.

Nerezza · June 01, 2003, 13:52:14

What other spiritual leader do you know that rose from the dead and had witnessses for it???

This in itself is amazing, but the fact that his apostles died preaching his word is something else.
http://www.rahul.net/beth/Ref/fate.html

But getting back to the point of the thread.

I have never had a Christ experience, neither in dreams or OBE.

Spills · June 01, 2003, 14:01:32

haha, none of them died of natural causes [xx(] its like they had to get rid of them fast. I WONDER WHY?

terrance · June 01, 2003, 14:53:08

Hello
no leaf clover... you should check out:

Holy Blood, Holy Grail by Michael Baigent, Henry Lincoln and Richard Leigh.

www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0440136482/103-2898023-0022232?vi=glance

regards.

beav31is · June 01, 2003, 16:02:12

Allanon "What other spiritual leader do you know that rose from the dead and had witnessses for it??? That is what it boils down to. If Christ truly conquered the void by himself than he is of the "highest" level."

No thats not even close to the highest level, and how would YOU know.

Allanon · June 01, 2003, 17:35:18

So all in all there are none here that claim to have ever seen Christ while in Astral Travel. Thank You for your time.

no_leaf_clover · June 01, 2003, 18:19:55

thanks, terrance. looks like a nice read [

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Joy · June 01, 2003, 23:24:26

Once when I was having a rough time at work, too much overtime, hardly any sleep for months, I "dreamed" that I was with a crowd of people when we heard that Jesus was coming. Everyone else bowed down to the ground, but I wanted to see what He looked like, so I remained standing. Apparently His power was overwhelming, because I seemed to pass out, and the next thing I knew I was waking up with my cheek lying against something warm. I suddenly realized it was someone's chest. I looked up into the face of Jesus. He had been standing there holding me, just letting me sleep. I felt such awe that I immediately bowed down like everybody else, and then He was gone.

goingslow · June 02, 2003, 01:29:09

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Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

lmao! you're not serious, right goingslow?

course i'm not.. I was just being annoying. [V]

Frank · June 03, 2003, 05:32:57

quote:
Originally posted by Allanon

HAs anyone here had an encounter with JC in an OBE? What do you guys think of him?

When I was going through a phase of touring the lower Astral I came across a number if people who believed they were not only Jesus but all manner of Gods too. I met this chap once who had a queue of people waiting to be blessed. Was quite an incredible sight.

I suppose if JC ever truly existed then he should be out and about somewhere. Though I doubt whether a character like myself would ever get to make an appointment.

Yours,
Frank

Terry B · June 05, 2003, 00:32:27

Do we see what is real or do we see what we want to see?

Frank · June 05, 2003, 11:40:04

Terry: Good point, though from my experience I reckon these people see a bit of both; in the sense that one tends to reinforce the other. Unfortunately, these people have most pieces of the jigsaw in place about the periphery. But they are short on pieces in the middle that give them strong clues as to the big picture.

Yours,
Frank

no_leaf_clover · June 05, 2003, 14:05:56

the post by goingslow about his looks was a joke. i asked if he was serious and he said "course i'm not.. I was just being annoying. [V]"

cawtney · June 05, 2003, 17:50:45

Once while sunbathing at the beach I had a dream (AP?) about Jesus... he walked up to me (on the beach) with a gentle smile on his face. I was filled with a warm tingling sensation and a welling up of love in my heart (the remnants of which stayed with me for a few minutes after I woke up). He taught me a mantra that had to do with Love. We repeated it together several times to be sure that I would remember it later but I forgot it. I'm not actually a Christian now, but did have a Christian upbringing so it's possible that if this were an AP, it could have been a guide that I interepreted as Jesus-- the closest image I had of a being of love/light.

PeacefulWarrior · June 06, 2003, 01:50:10

Joy and Novice,
Thanks for sharing your experiences, I found them very touching. I have a friend who had a dream similar to theexperience Joy had and it changed his life.

-Daniel

Robin · June 06, 2003, 02:55:24

I have seen Jesus.

I know I will see Him again.

First I was paralyzed by His eyes then to look at Him was mind blowing!

First a oval frame a gold stars burst above me in the night sky, then a burst from a billion stars formed His BEAUTIFUL face and He turned and looked at me.

He is real.

My being ached to honor and love Him I was so humbled.

sweet_celestial_sounds · June 06, 2003, 03:41:30

Hey cawtney. [

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When Robert Monroe was visited by his future self, he at first thought it God. Hm. (Wonders if that meeting with 'the Source' was a meeting with himself. That would explain the 'see through me' aspect of it certainly. And Robert thought his future self was god, it/he was so powerful and radiant. Hm.) So what you say is certainly possible, and may be for all of us thinking we are seeing God and stuff. Monroe had to ability to go back to that same being again and again, whereas I and others have only met/seen 'their' Jesus or God or Source once or twice.

Thank you for such a great post. It really opened me up to some new possibilities as I write this reply. Help others, you help your self. Help yourself, you help others.

Take care. [

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And thanks.

And as I reread what I wrote and reflect again, I again say thank you.

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Lasher · June 06, 2003, 06:30:45

I heard an interesting interview on NPR this week with Elaine Pagels (sp?). She wrote the book, "The Gnostic Gospels", and she has a new one out. I'm not sure of the name of the new one.

According to her research, she believes that The Gospel of John was written as a reaction to The Gospel of Thomas. The Gospel of John is the only gospel that states that you must accept Jesus as savior to go to heaven. The other three Gospels say nothing about this.

The Gospel of Thomas, which predates John and was not included in the bible, has Jesus saying that God is everywhere and in everyone.

Pagels seems to think that John was written to get people away from focusing on personal, mystical, experiences of the divine, and to focus them instead on viewing Jesus and the church as the only door to heaven.

If this is true, then it is too bad, because I think the main reason some people reject Christianity out of hand is because of the "My way or the highway" dogma. Ironically, this may never have been Jesus' intention.

Lasher

Allanon · June 07, 2003, 01:53:51

I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light.
None shall come to the Father but by me.

Lasher · June 07, 2003, 02:22:41

quote:
I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light.
None shall come to the Father but by me.

Exactly.

But where does that leave the Moslems, Hindus, Taoists, and the rest?

My opinion, and it is only that, is that God is like a lightbulb with a lampshade. The lampshade has many cutout designs. We only see the design that faces us. Christianity is one design. Islam is another. Hinduism is another. And on it goes. Now that we have knowledge of the entire lampshade because of worldwide communication, we must consider that God reveals himself in more than one way. If Jesus was the only path, then many good, enlightened people would be damned for no reason.

Jesus is the way, the truth and the light.
Buddha is another way. A valid way. And I think Jesus would agree.
It is man who has limited God with his limited understanding.

Again.
My opinion only.

Lasher

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