Well that certainly got my attention

[Blazewind]

I thought I'd post this mainly because it ended up later leading me to consider a question of others on here.  Last night while laying down beginning to fall asleep but still feeling somewhat awake once again, I first noticed what I thought at first in my odd state of part wakefulness, was the neighbor upstairs walking extremely heavy and pounding on the floor so hard my apartment was shaken slightly from the motion.  Needless to say I was annoyed at first and wondering what on Earth was going on up there that could cause such a feeling of reverberation though the ceiling and walls below.  I quickly noticed another motion and again the whole room seemed to shake from the impact.  This time though it occurred to me that it almost felt like it was below me and not above at all.  As this continued with no real pattern to it, just as noticeable each time and always sending wakes of vibration through my entire body as I lay wondering what in the world was going on that night.  A couple odd things occurred to me then.  Firstly there was no banging sound or anything accompanying the constant shaking of what I thought was part of the building from footsteps.  Besides who could or would cause such a thing and just keep on doing it in the first place.  Even if it did make sense, it would be so unlike anyone that lives in nearby apartments to do so.  Secondly I still couldn't rule out that it was actually coming from below and not above at all.  It felt to be just as must be just as must below me as above, yet I live on the ground floor!

It still felt physical, like someone was simply pounding away on the floor or walls, but silent and oddly out of place.  It just wouldn't stop.  Thinking again with surprising logic, I realized and then knew without a doubt that this was completely non-physical though it felt so real and convincing.Strangely conscious and clear thinking now in this state, I realized that I had mistaken non-physical vibration for someone banging on the walls and my ceiling extremely hard.  Of course from here I changed my thinking from frustration over what I had thought to be troublesome neighbors, to curiosity about the state.  Even though I was nowthinking somewhat intently, it still didn't stop and I realized that as long as I didn't think TOO much or panic it was okay to reason a bit.  I wondered then if I should try to move my non-physical body and see if anything would happen.  I wondered then if I actually wanted to.  It occurred then that I had no idea what to do or how and that was fine with me.  Whatever was happening just continue and I recall thinking very clearly "Wow, I always thought it might scare me if it got this obvious."  The thought that followed immediately was simply, "It's not scary at all.  Why panic?"  At some point very soon after I suppose I just dozed right off to sleep.

Now the question I was left with from this, because I've noticed such a thing before though not under quite this circumstance, is simply does anyone else commonly find themselves just basically not sure at all how to proceed and doing nothing because of momentary cluelessness.  it;s odd to find just how in such a state logic can just seem to work differently..                  

[Szaxx]

This is typical. You really should have got up and moved away. Ir would have stopped and left you wandering around your home.
These effects are so real too, theres no way to discern them from actuality.
You witnessed a distraction and theres far more of these too. Once you become experienced you can create them or change whats occurring. Yoy then know it's like a false awakening and time to move.
Good for you to have control of your fears. This is where the uncertainty can help you scare yourself.
As it's not an issue use it as the last signpost to get away from your body.
The rest will be an exiting experience for you.

[Blazewind]

Thanks Szaxx,

I was a but surprised at my own lack of fear.  But then of course a motion that feels a bit like someone pounding on a neighboring wall, is not THAT jarring of a feeling, all things considered.  If anything i got confused and missed it at first, assuming for so long it was actually someone physically banging nearby because it was not steady and not what I would have been expecting.  Haha, I had just recently made a post on this forum that lead to a comment about nothing being as we would have expected.  Well timed I think!

I suppose I really could have tried to get up and move away.  The thing that seemed to get me is simply doubtful thoughts, "Is it a good idea to move yet?' "Do I really want to?" "Maybe i should wait longer."  etc.  Strangely I had no idea exactly what to do next and so did nothing at all.

The question I have now about this is why would I have fallen asleep right away after that?  I mean sure it makes sense becuae it was night time and I was laying down.  But still it seemed I went right from thinking and noticing something very odd, to sleeping.

[Szaxx]

Any time you become aware you really need to move away from your body. There's so many posts and reports saying the same. It's where your body has more say than you and you'll also hear of sight not being present. You move away and it appears.
Worth bearing in mind.

[enlightnd]

Defiantly, Iv had this happen plenty!! Especially in the beginning stages, I have become aware, Iv noticed my surroundings, Iv seen and heard whats happening but still i lay unsure how to attack it.

Its just like any strange situation, Even in the physical, When something your oblivious too is pretty much thrown in your face as an unexpected but controllable aware situation, Unless your comfortable with this, One doesn't normally pounce at these types of strange situations, Hah.

I think you'll find as i have, With the reoccurrence of these situations you will tend to realise sooner that "Hey, Im aware, Im out of body! Lets not mess about, Lets move! Haha.

Exited for you, Your on the right track for sure.

I recall thinking very clearly "Wow, I always thought it might scare me if it got this obvious."  The thought that followed immediately was simply, "It's not scary at all.  Why panic?" 

You said it, Keep that in mind next time you become aware. Youl soon be experimenting and zooming all over the place.

[Bedeekin]

Something I've noticed that is a distinct trait of all nonphysical experiences like the one you posted.. is that no matter what is going on like vibrating pounding or the sense someone is in the room.. is that we simply don't react to it in the same way we would if it truly happened while we were awake.

Many times I have entered SP and thought someone was in the room or that an intruder had broken in I have been concerned and fearful... yet also very 'meh' at the same time. In reality I would get up or start pooing myself.

[Szaxx]

Nice thought B.
When deep in phase I can create these noises, thats absolutely anything. I've played around making sounds appear and even generated a fear of fear to see the runaway effect. I soon quit that one. All this with full physical movement available.
So you may not control the noises conciously, it's my thought that subconciously you actually do.
The method is basically the same as being out. You keep within the physical and stay there. When the longer lasting noises start, work with them. Become aware of them and try to slightly alter them, lengthen them and slightly change their timbre. Once you've done this a few times, imagine hearing yourself saying "boo it's me" .
You'll do this then as nothing happens, you drop the thought. Wait a couple of seconds and you hear it loud and clear.
Try it. If reading a boring book sends you to sleep, do this. It sets things up nicely

[Blazewind]

The other day a similar thing happened again.  This time while I was dozing off to sleep, and fully intending to try getting out of body, I was met with the very distinct feeling of very heavy footsteps walking hard across the floor.  This time though it was distinctly my own floor as opposed to anything that could have been in any neighboring apartment.  Once again for a while I managed to both misjudge it and also react in a way that now seems ridiculous of course.  After a second of being startled by the sudden thumping that dragged me partly back from a near sleeping state, I simply assumed with some irritation, that someone was certainly insisting on walking awfully heavy across my floor while I was obviously laying down.  It was only after the next quick second it took me to actually realize that I live alone and had no house-guests, that it occurred to me to wonder who on earth could have been doing it in the first place!

Obviously I need to get the hang of this.  At least for now my "signpost" might be that sudden and erratic Thump...thumpthump... bang, on floors and walls, as opposed to anything more steady as I must admit I had been almost expecting.  I have to admit this is a tough one to work with because it is so sudden and not steady and it could almost be physical.  It's very interesting.             

[astralee]

cool i think you just remained awake when falling asleep start focus your intent when falling asleep in the morning.

[Szaxx]

The sudden onset means you are intetacting with the NP. More there than here if you like.
It might be worth the effort to get up and walk to another room. Do this as you would normally and once there try something that wouldn't work in the physical. A reality check. Write something down like the time. If you go there in the morning and the note isn't there you did it. If it is then you tested a theory.

[soarin12]

I get the same thing in SP before I project.  All sorts of strange noises but mostly loud footsteps and banging noises.  You're lucky you're not afraid of them.  I was terrified for quite awhile and almost quit phasing because of it.  Szaxx in his wisdom made me reconsider and now the noises don't scare me at all.  I also figured out how to change/control them.  Before, when I was still afraid of them, I would do an exit as quick as possible just to get away from them.  Now I'm starting to go back to phasing all the way through (no exit) just to see if my NP experiences are any different or better that way.  Seems like I used to have more exciting ones that way. I don't know.  I'm still testing this.  Anyway, back to the noises.  Now I either just ignore them or play with changing them, and exit when or if I feel like it.  I don't bother doing a quick exit out of fear like I used to.

[Szaxx]

Nice one Soarin,
To make things really pleasant, you can think of some nice music and compose it too.
There's no point in scareing yourself is there now?
All of us can do this too.

[soarin12]

Szaxx, good idea. I will try that.  I used to compose songs years ago so I should know at least somewhat what I'm doing. 

[EscapeVelocity]

Hi Blazewind,

I think you are handling these experiences just right. It's ok if it happens slowly and bit by bit. It did for me too. You are being introduced to a new mental/emotional environment and yes, your thinking and logic do somehow change. So, you are getting a little taste of it each time to allow you to adjust.

Personally, I think this is a series of small tests placed before you by your higher self/inner self/subconscious? to help acclimate you to this new environment. Maybe it's just a natural safety-mechanism to scare us away from the NPR. A lot of people react with fear and get a Dweller on the Threshold kind of experience or waste time thinking this is some kind of astral "attack".

So keep a positive, receptive attitude towards it happening and yes, next time stay calm and cool and try for an exit while ignoring all the hypnagogic "noise".

And always remember nothing can hurt you.

Best wishes for your success!

EV

[Lionheart]

Hi Blazewind,

I think you are handling these experiences just right. It's ok if it happens slowly and bit by bit. It did for me too. You are being introduced to a new mental/emotional environment and yes, your thinking and logic do somehow change. So, you are getting a little taste of it each time to allow you to adjust.

Personally, I think this is a series of small tests placed before you by your higher self/inner self/subconscious? to help acclimate you to this new environment. Maybe it's just a natural safety-mechanism to scare us away from the NPR. A lot of people react with fear and get a Dweller on the Threshold kind of experience or waste time thinking this is some kind of astral "attack".

So keep a positive, receptive attitude towards it happening and yes, next time stay calm and cool and try for an exit while ignoring all the hypnagogic "noise".

And always remember nothing can hurt you.

Best wishes for your success!

EV

Welcome back EscapeVelocity!   We missed your positive attitude and helpful comments here for awhile now!  

Your reply was "spot on"! 

[EscapeVelocity]

Thanks Lionheart, I sincerely appreciate that! Been somewhat grounded in earthly affairs the last couple years.

Best to you and everyone.