Quick question?

[HindSight]

Is it possible to AP with someone who isn't projecting?

[Astralzombie]

The above post is in it's original form. I meant to reply but hit the modify button instead. Sorry.

People have spontaneous OOBE so you can't dismiss the off chance of a meet up but it's hard for experienced projectors to meet up intentionally so don't go making any plans just yet.


I shouldn't say that. Of course you should experiment and push the boundaries within ethical limits (don't try and force someone "out" against their wishes) but don't bet the house on it.

[Szaxx]

The simple answer is yes. I've done this with a friend at 6 years old.
I went to his house and saw him floating above his sleeping body and grabbed it to move it outside. He partly woke up. The idea at school was to take him flying over the woods at the back of our houses.
It failed, he told his parents and I was banned from seeing him.
I took my brother this way too on many trips.
All in the RTZ of course.
I for years thought everyone could do it.
Apparently not.

[LightBeam]

I have experienced APs in numerous occasions with my sister. I will make a separate post about one particular experience from 2 days ago related to this topic and will add the link later in here.
But, yes, everyone's spirits, or parts of their spirits is experiencing the astral as we speak, but this part of ourselves just isn't aware of it because our brains cant translate this information. We become aware of our activities in the astral during our dreams and OBEs. Our awake physical senses are suppressing in a way the access to the other worlds, but again, as we speak, parts of our spirits are existing and interacting with the inner worlds. So, you can have an experience with anyone you can think of, but they may remember glimpses in forms of feelings, thoughts, etc, or they will experience something similar next time they fall asleep and dream, just like it happened with my sister.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/obe_with_sister_and_synchronization-t43204.0.html

[HindSight]

 that's so extraordinary because i was having a dream with my girlfriend where she was holding my hand and i told her "think of astral projection, or think of her grandpa (she told me she wanted to walk with him because he had passed and she really misses him), but before, the scene was dark and gloomy, and i talked to this man who who was a suspicious individual who in the same dream passed though me and gave me negative, dark vibes. after continuous talk with this man i made him break down and cry as if it was the key to the astral. this is when the dark vibes almost lifted but the scene was still dark  (every time i ' projected' it was always dark and didn't fell right), that's when all of a sudden my girl appeared on my right hand, holding it, interlocking fingers. that's when i told her " think of the astral...^^" we both closed your eyes and then open them, and everything was bright and happy, the scene had totally changed. there was this man that she stared closely looked at and she said it almost looked like him, but i was sure that i was to inexperience to contact the decease as it was so high up on the astral realm. she was in tears as she brought out a picture of her grandpa and someone else. what really got me thinking as when she woke up and told me she was sad, this maybe far beyond me or just a coincidence, what do you think?

[HindSight]

@Szaxx it almost seems like everyone can do it, well... everyone does do but doesn't have the subconscious intuitive to experience what we experience. it seems like the older we get without the knowledge that the astal pulse provides and other sources, the more ignorant/uneducated we get. the more we get involved with money and 'property'  the more we get lost in society and the corruption that comes with it... but im just ranting aha  , society chappes me out 

[Szaxx]

It's also something that doesn't enter your mind in all probability from the distractive nature of the NP.
Having the intent is one thing, if there's no practicality or urgent purpose, it gets left out in the rain.
Macarthur park syndrome.