OBE with sister and synchronization

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LightBeam

This OBE was an interesting one because of the aftermath, and you will see what I am talking about at the end.

During a regular dream where I was at my childhood home with my sister. I realized that I was dreaming and from that point on I took control and it became an OBE. I told my sister with an exciting tone of voice "We are out of our bodies right now. I'll show you" and then I asked mentally my deceased grandfather to show up. Next moment he is walking through the door of the living room. He was smiling and my sister was looking in shock. Then I called mentally my father who's death my sister suffered greatly. He too walked in the door and at that moment my sister gave a cry and jumped into his arms. After that I told her "Now, we are going to go back in time and experience one of our Christmases when we were kids". I grabbed her hand so we can "teleport" together and I don't loose her and few seconds later we were in the same room, but this time was all decorated for Christmas and on the table there were all kinds of food. The emotions were unbelievable. I cant even start to describe. After that I said to her "Now do you want to fly around, because we can". She hesitated and I sensed that she was a little afraid, so I said "Don't worry, we are going to fly with a car, so you can feel safer". We went outside and infront of our house was parked a blue convertible (I don't know what brand) car. We jumped inside, I gave a command and the car raised into the air. I said to myself "I want to go to a big city at night time". Instantly we are flying over a city with tall sky scrapers with millions of lights. It was breathtaking.

At that time I woke up slightly vibrating from the experience, looked at the clock and realized that my sister was awake at that time on the other side of the globe and probably at work. So, I thought that I was going to wait and see if she will mention anything possible a feeling, a thought, etc related to our AP together. So one day later she sends me an email that she had an amazing dream involving seeing our father and her hugging him. Also she mentioned me and her sitting at a table eating lots of food.

So, the conclusion: Even though she experienced a similar event with me and our father was at a different physical time than my OBE. However, I think both experienced even being apart by physical time indication happened at the same "time" in the astral. Only, because she was awake during my OBE where I made her aware, she experienced it first thing after her physical senses shut down during sleep and she was able to perceive the experience. Does that make sense? At least this is how I interpret it. When I received her email about her dream, I was like, OMG I was waiting for this, and I told her the whole experience. She said she had the same feelings especially because she misses father so much and she felt shocked that she was actually seeing him and hugging him. She said that when she woke up she was laying on her back and she felt slight inner shaking upon awaking. So, I told her that she was OBEing, but because she does not train she could not gain control and perceived it as a very vivid dream. I am still smiling thinking about this experience. Priceless!!!!!
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

enlightnd

What an absolutely wonderful experience! This interests me in trying to awaken people in my obes.

Thanks for sharing :)

Fwewyu Tìomumä

Wow, that's awesome!

I'm glad you and your sister were able to experience the joy you did. Very interesting, though, about the time factor. Kinda like a 4th or 5th dimension, eh? Haha.

Lionheart

 Wow Lightbeam that was fantastic!  Thank you for sharing that with us!  :-)

One question I have though is, in the beginning of your experience you say "During a regular dream where I was at my childhood home with my sister. I realized that I was dreaming and from that point on I took control and it became an OBE."
Does this mean that just becoming Lucid made it into a OBE or did you do some other kind of grounding technique to make it a OBE? I know you said you took "control" and it became one, but when we become Lucid we usually do take control. That's what Lucidity does. I am trying to clarify this for the people that question what a LD or OBE really is.

It's great to see that you have a experience that you can verify. Many doubters always say that we lack verification and that's why they say it's "all in our heads". To verify any AP/OBE to oneself is very important. It sets the grounds for further successful attempts. Reinforcing your belief is always a good thing, especially with this practice!  :-)

Szaxx

Excellent experience, After that your sister should learn the art. Knowing a little more than most is helpful. The two of you sharing the same experience is far superior.
I wonder how you'd react if sis sent the mail earlier, on the day of the experience?
I hope you can do this again,  the emotional side being kept under control must have been difficult.
You managed it very well.

The elation will last, soak it all up. :-D
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

LightBeam

Quote from: Lionheart on August 17, 2013, 01:26:47

One question I have though is, in the beginning of your experience you say "During a regular dream where I was at my childhood home with my sister. I realized that I was dreaming and from that point on I took control and it became an OBE."

I should have been more clear. Yes, becoming lucid converted the dream into an OBE. So for the beginners, my dream was taking place in the astral as well, but it was created and lead by my subconsciousness. When we realize that we are dreaming we become lucid and our consciousness takes control and this is what we call an OBE. At least these are the terms established so that we can distinguish certain occurrences. This is one way to project, from a lucid dream. I have them quite often. I use affirmation before falling asleep that remain aware and I have been noticing an increase in lucidity. If anyone wants to practice this technique, it is extremely important to do the affirmations as you are falling asleep, so that it can carry over. In fact all OBE techniques must be practiced while your brain is changing waves stages. If your brain is too awake the chance to project is very slim. That's why we have so many people saying that they lay there for hours and nothing happen. Just a meditation during the day when you physical body and brain are refreshed and recharged will only relax you for a little bit but it will be very hard to fully project. So, make it easy, practice before falling asleep and you will either be awaken buy the vibrations, or become aware in your dreams.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

LightBeam

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Quote from: Szaxx on August 17, 2013, 01:32:48
I wonder how you'd react if sis sent the mail earlier, on the day of the experience?
I hope you can do this again,  the emotional side being kept under control must have been difficult.
You managed it very well.

ha ha, I knew she would not have experienced it in synchrony with me, because she was awake at that time. The only way would have been if she 'd experienced dual reality perception. But that is extremely rare. She by the way has a very heightened sixth sense and has precognitive experiences very often. I have told her how to use techniques and she can easily achieve it, but I think she is a little scared and is  not admitting it to me. But she has the same beliefs and knowledge as I do. Just hesitates to practice AP.

About the emotions and control, I no longer have problems staying out long no matter how strong the emotions or excitement gets. And I cant help but get excited every time. It still blows my mind that one is able to do that. It never gets old even after over 10 years of experience. I guess because the adventures and possibilities are endless and the sense of immortality kicks in, also the realization of perfection and true happiness, unlimited joy and fear free. I think that one can never get tired of being in such a state of being.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

LightBeam

Quote from: Fwewyu Tìomumä on August 17, 2013, 01:26:42
Very interesting, though, about the time factor. Kinda like a 4th or 5th dimension, eh? Haha.


yes, I posted this experience to point the time misalignment, but that just shows that the astral experiences are not governed by time and space. And even though we have a perception that we here are, just outside of our physical senses there is a whole other invisible (while we are awake) multiverse that we constantly interact with whether we realize it or not. We are actually in it, just cant perceive it while "awake". Like blind people cant perceive objects, but that does not mean they are not around them.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

LightBeam

Quote from: enlightnd on August 17, 2013, 01:23:19
What an absolutely wonderful experience! This interests me in trying to awaken people in my obes.

Thanks for sharing :)


You can experience OBE together with anyone you wish. They may or may not remember the experience though. That depends if they are more or less attuned to within. Some people are so preoccupied with the physical lives that they never think about spiritual matters. they don't pay attention to their dreams, they are very grounded, and so they will not likely perceive in any way such an experience. But you can experiment and see what happens. It also depends on the connection between you and the other person. My sister and I for example are very close and it makes sense that we are connected at all time at some level. Sometimes we even have the same thoughts or feeling while going through our daily lives, even we live in different continents. So, it all depends, but give it a try. It definitely is more fun when you interact with people or different entities.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Lionheart

 I like you more and more each day Lightbeam!  :-)

Thank You for clearing that up.

I have been preaching the "Affirmations" at night for a long time now here. I find success with it constantly on a nightly basis.

The problem that many have is actually becoming Lucid once they see they are Dreaming. Many times people will see they are Dreaming, but watch the scenario instead of consciously taking a part in it. That's mainly because they are in the grasp of their subconscious mind and everything they see, is as vivid as it is in their physical life.

This is why Reality checks and Dream Journals are so important to having success here.

Volgerle

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Quote from: Lionheart on August 17, 2013, 01:26:47
It's great to see that you have a experience that you can verify. Many doubters always say that we lack verification and that's why they say it's "all in our heads". To verify any AP/OBE to oneself is very important.

doubters can in the meantime always be shown my wonderful little collection, which last not least consists of many accounts from this wonderful forum too  :wink:

http://da-lai.lima-city.de/OBE/index.html

when I find the time to do updates again, I might include a link to this nice dream-OBE verification, too


Lionheart

Quote from: Volgerle on August 18, 2013, 06:51:29
doubters can in the meantime always be shown my wonderful little collection, which last not least consists of many accounts from this wonderful forum too  :wink:
http://da-lai.lima-city.de/OBE/index.html
when I find the time to do updates again, I might include a link to this nice dream-OBE verification, too
Thanks Volgerle!  :-) Every little bit helps!  :wink:

...and you do have quite a collection there!  :-)