I'm not so sure if I'll be safe.

[MonaLon]

Hey guys,

Let me explain my situation. You see, psychic stuff runs in my family. My Dad used to do a lot of things: astral projection, psychokinesis, even this thing where he could make things happen just by saying it. When I told him I wanted to start learning how to astral project and perform other psychic practices he warned me against it. A while back when he was in college, he came across a really nasty entity, and ever since then he's cut himself off from everything psychic-related. He wasn't doing anything negative before, neither was he thinking negative thoughts or anything like that. Here's what I want to know: will something similar happen to me? If I start astral projecting or anything similar, will that entity return or something? Also, does this prove that even if you have positive intentions, some really terrible things can still threaten your life? I'm pretty doubtful here. Thanks in advance. 

P.S. I already know how to astral project, but the only barrier I have is this fear that I won't be safe.

[Lionheart]

 Hello and Welcome to the Astral Pulse!  

If you "believe" that nasty things reside in the Astral, then you shall find nasty things in the Astral.

Go there with a positive outlook and you will find positive things. This is going to be really hard for you since you are already under the influence of fear.

You either need to confront those fears or never practice AP. It's your choice.

Check out this video. You can watch the entire thing (it's very good), but the part you really need to hear begins at the 59:00 minute mark and goes for about 8 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRar8IOwic8&feature=BFa&list=PLEB923BB17E5849A3&lf=plpp_video

[MonaLon]

Thanks for the reply! I really want to astral project; it sounds like a lot of fun, and that I can learn a lot from it. I understand that it will be hard since I'm already pretty fearful. Maybe I should treat it like how I treat a dream. I never have nightmares, even if it's the "scariest" thing ever. I just kind of laugh it off, and the scary things don't seem so scary anymore.

Is it really all just fear though? According to my dad, he was in real danger. Like, if he hadn't won over the entity then he might have been destroyed. Was that just his mind?

[Lionheart]

Thanks for the reply! I really want to astral project; it sounds like a lot of fun, and that I can learn a lot from it. I understand that it will be hard since I'm already pretty fearful. Maybe I should treat it like how I treat a dream. I never have nightmares, even if it's the "scariest" thing ever. I just kind of laugh it off, and the scary things don't seem so scary anymore.

Is it really all just fear though? According to my dad, he was in real danger. Like, if he hadn't won over the entity then he might have been destroyed. Was that just his mind?

You should treat it just like that because the two are the very same. AP and Dreaming both lead to the NPR (Non Physical Realms/Realities).

Possibly your Dad was succumbing to his fears as well. Did he come back unscathed from his Astral adventures?

Danger is getting hit by a car, having your home burned down, getting mugged etc. in this physical reality. In the NPR thought =action, so any "dangers' there have little or no bearing on your physical existence. They usually come with a valued lesson though!  

[MonaLon]

Hm, that's an interesting question. My Dad told me that he actually felt pain while in the Astral. He's always come back unscathed though (otherwise he wouldn't be here to tell me!  ). Could the NPR damage your soul/consciousness/whatever-it-is? I remember reading in one of Robert Monroe's books (I think it was Journeys Beyond the Body) that he encountered an entity which attacked him so badly that he felt as if he was fighting for his very existence.

[Lionheart]

Could the NPR damage your soul/consciousness/whatever-it-is? I remember reading in one of Robert Monroe's books (I think it was Journeys Beyond the Body) that he encountered an entity which attacked him so badly that he felt as if he was fighting for his very existence.

No!  

Robert was experiencing this in the NPR not this physical existence. When he returned from his NP adventure he was still physically unscathed.

There was a lesson to learned in that adventure he had as well. Even in this physical existence, we learn more by the negative things that happen to us than we do the positive.  

[MonaLon]

I really appreciate your advice! So, your soul is safe no matter what? I wonder why that is...I also wonder why, when you hop back into your body, NPR things can't affect you anymore...

[Lionheart]

I really appreciate your advice! So, your soul is safe no matter what? I wonder why that is...I also wonder why, when you hop back into your body, NPR things can't affect you anymore...

You should really listen to that entire video link I gave you. Many, if not all of your questions are answered there. 

[Szaxx]

What's your inner strength like MonaLon?  
That's the question to ask yourself. It bears little in common to how you react within the physical.
It's what drives you inside, are you a follower or a leader ?
Given the extras in the non physical, would power over others go to your head and corrupt your mind into a 'I will rule the world' mindset?
Are you easily decieved by believing everything you see or hear?
By answering questions like these you can work out if you are safe with your fear level. The fears you have are the limitation to your success.
Confront them as you have said and the negatives some report on will not appear at all.
It's your thoughts that count and the correct mindset will give the maximum success in your travels.   Remember your past successes, this is the direction you need to go in. Any problems met with will be something to learn from.
Fear isn't an option. Remember and know this.

[Volgerle]

My advice: speak to your Guide(s) first. Ask them to literally (!!) give you a hand when you go out for AP. When in vibrational state just stretch out your hand and shout (mentally) "helper!". But also speak with them before you project (even now!). Just ask them for assistance and that they 'be there' for you when it happens. They will!

This is even a twofold advantage: you have an exit technique with s.o. lifting you out and at the same time s.o. who reassures you, keeps you or makes you feel safe, is a friend in the truest sense.

We all have our guides and helpers around us. I have seen many of them and know some by names they told me. I was told once by one helper that I have 10 altogether.

You see, there are many "nice people" out there. It's just like in the physical life all about the company you prefer to keep, right?  

[Astralzombie]

Hi Mona.

If you are a minor and still living at home, I think that the best thing to do is to listen to your parents. Not because they are always right but because not doing so, can cause unnecessary friction in other areas.

With that said, you are never in anymore danger than you are during any other time. Some aspect of us is always interacting in the NPR.

Perhaps you can have a talk with your father and tell him that you respect his beliefs but that you don't want to be controlled by fear. 

[MonaLon]

@AstralZombie Actually, my Dad says that he respects whatever path I'd like to take. He just told me about his experience as a cautionary tale, and that learning how to astral project might not be a walk in the park.

@Volgerle Forgive me if I sound overly skeptical, but what will talking to "guides" do while I'm fully conscious in this reality?

[deepspace]

AP is not dangerous, but would recommend first dealing with any fears regarding it. It's likely you will manifest things that you fear, but again they are not dangerous. In the big picture, I don't think anything is dangerous from the perspective of our journey here in this life. Our fears are the biggest barrier we face here.

[Volgerle]

@Volgerle Forgive me if I sound overly skeptical, but what will talking to "guides" do while I'm fully conscious in this reality?

How do you think your guides communicate with you most? It's not in the astral. It is not in your dreams (although quite often then too). It is with your daily thoughts. It's like speaking an affirmation or a prayer. It has an effect. It is "heard". They do it from their side too with giving you intuitions, or helping with manifesting some situations that create opportunities for you - although it's your choice then to grasp them (or not) as this is a planet of free will, no guide will ever force you to do sth.

If you don't believe in it it's of course your choice. I know it works from my experience. Others do, too. I've been making calls for certain 'people' or for certain things to 'manifest' in the astral e.g. the night before I tried sth and then they indeed appeared or happened. (It doesn't always work though).

But as said, it is your choice. If it doesn't fit your belief system that they 'hear' your thoughts/prayers/requests or you don't like the "idea" of it, then forget about this fact to get back in your own comfort zone (... the illusion of separateness and that no one can observe your thoughts ).

[rezaf]

In Daoism they first prepare and cultivate their energy for a long time and then they start magic and astral projection. There is some risk in going out of body and communicating with other entities and playing with these things without cultivating energy properly is just going to increase that risk. In my opinion having positive thoughts is certainly very important but on its own it is too general and vague to replace a proper training under a legitimate teacher. Some people are lucky but Including my own case I have heard about too many cases of people with some talent in these spiritual stuff who have had problems to various degrees and helping these people to get rid of the entities that see the opportunity to feed off humans is a field that should be studied and trained for.


And regarding thought=action I think it's better to say thought +reserved energy= action which is very similar to what we have in the physical world. For example you might have very good business ideas but if you don't have the financial power you will have limitations in making those ideas real. Also you must know that this rule works for other entities as well which means that if they want to harm you and they are more powerful than you they will succeed.