using AP for scientific information?

[Gummage]

Has anyone ever thought to do this or even tried this? there are many things that I and I think anyone would love to know in terms of some of the big scientific questions. I have often pondered what the secret of time travel is and perhaps what the secret is to cure cancer. Maybe if guides or spirit entities/beings are real then they could offer some very valuable info or even the straight up secret to how to achieve time travel or info on how to cure some serious diseases/sicknesses (in the physical world). Has anyone tried to get info such at this? these are examples of course.

If the astral is real and if anything out there is possible like so many say it is then finding info on how to crack big scientific questions should not be too hard at least theroretically.

[Xanth]

If you listen to the Explorer tapes from the early days of the Monroe institute, you'll hear quite often them discussing technology ideas with the beings they're talking to.   I don't know if any of it came to fruition, but it's neat nonetheless.

With that said history is littered with ideas and concepts which came directly from peoples dreams.

[TylerSnotgern]

https://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5154&p=24819#p24819

[BranStark]

I have often pondered what the secret of time travel is and perhaps what the secret is to cure cancer.

It is a bit off topic but can't help it. You don't need to AP in order to find out what pharmaceutical industry is hiding from you.
Watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM

and read something about Dr. Hulda Clark and Zapper. Don't know for sure if the cures above work, but I with a certainty I can say that zapper does. Also note that Wikipedia would not be the righ source as it again didn't disappoint with its bias.

[Fusions]

It is a bit off topic but can't help it. You don't need to AP in order to find out what pharmaceutical industry is hiding from you.
Watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWLrfNJICeM

and read something about Dr. Hulda Clark and Zapper. Don't know for sure if the cures above work, but I with a certainty I can say that zapper does. Also note that Wikipedia would not be the righ source as it again didn't disappoint with its bias.

Oh yes. The cure for cancer and for everything is already provided by gaia, advocados and walnuts will do the trick, natural cancer cures.

[Lionheart]

Oh yes. The cure for cancer and for everything is already provided by gaia, advocados and walnuts will do the trick, natural cancer cures.

That's what Edgar Cayce says! 

I eat my 2 raw walnuts everyday! 

But he says it prevents, not cures!

[Astralzombie]

There are many examples through out history in which people have related that their big breakthroughs have been from dreams. Thomas Edison and Tesla have both reported this.

However, as callous or perhaps even cruel as it may sound, we must put things into perspective. I think it's obvious that low entropy beings would be glad to offer up the cures to the diseases that cause us much anguish but on the other hand there may be natural laws or barriers that prevent them from doing so and these reasons may not be at all obvious to us.

We have already raised our natural life expectancy from the mid to late thirties to as high as 80 years.

Though I'm positive these higher beings receive no joy in our suffering, they also know it is temporary and our physical lives are nothing but a flash in the pan.

I fully believe that we will one day have a cure for cancer but it will be from our hard work and perseverance....just my thoughts.

[Gummage]

K I don't know why everyone stressing about the cure for cancer so much I mean it was just an example I really was meaning finding answers to huge metaphysical scientific questions like what makes the universe? is teleportation possible? is there a way to time travel? these kinds of things. Lets not all focus on the cancer example.

[LightBeam]

Humanity has not evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for themselves in dishonorable way. If I have any such information, I would not release it.....yet. As far as how the universe was made, scientists would not believe me anyway, just like they don't believe in AP, because it cant be proven by mathematical formulas and any physical law. Science is still very closed minded.

[Astralzombie]

I hear what you are saying but you mentioned cancer as an example so it should be expected that many of us would address that.

With that said, I mentioned Edison and Tesla so unless you have lived under a rock, I'm sure you are aware that their work had nothing to do with the medical sciences.

In any case, without a very high understanding in many different sciences, it wouldn't do much good for the average person to be told the secret to time travel (if it is even possible), since they wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of technical know how needed to utilize the information they received.

Thus it would be pointless to let the average guy in on the technology.

[Lionheart]

Humanity has not evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for themselves in dishonorable way. If I have any such information, I would not release it.....yet. As far as how the universe was made, scientists would not believe me anyway, just like they don't believe in AP, because it cant be proven by mathematical formulas and any physical law. Science is still very closed minded.

Wow you definitely got that right Lightbeam!

Right now every new invention is looked at by the military before anyone else to see if it has any applications they can use or anything way it gives them an advantage over others.

In the past, every time tech was used and in this I am talking about evidence from the bible, it was used to help people. Examples using the Ark of the Covenant's anti gravitational properties to part the red sea. This was shown in the New Testament that Moses did "use" the Ark for this purpose. In the New Testament there is another there is another incident where the Ark is used to open up a river again, they state that they used it the same way Moses did. Recently a archeologist took the exact measurement of the Ark, according to Scholars and then he measured the stone box, supposedly a tomb of a Pharaoh found in the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid at Giza (even though no one was found in there once it was opened thousand of years later), he found that the Ark's dimensions are same as the inside of the supposed tomb.  Some even look at the fact that Jesus feeding others and using alchemy to turn water into wine could be seen as a form of technology. I don't state this for an argument. I am purely looking at the research with an open mind. Just recently they found evidence that Noah's Ark was round.

This is just one of the many videos to be found today on theories of the Ark being a Electrical Capacitor/Energy device with untold powers.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWEPGTxjQnI They talk about the Ark of the Covenant being the same dimensions as the tomb in Egypt at the 22:00 minute mark.

Most of what we read today as Miracles in the past can be explained using Modern science, but not all. Many believe that the Ark of the Covenant was a very powerful source of energy akin to a Nuclear Reactor of sorts.

Today we are working on making stronger skin (military applications), invisibility cloaks (again Military), Nuclear Reactors (power source and Military). They are even creating new "physical vessels" to make us last longer here. So that when we die (physical body), there is a new and improved body for our brain to be put into. I guess they expect the consciousness to follow as well, lol. They also want to alter our DNA to make us better, smarter etc.  Obviously the first ones to utilize this will be the extremely wealthy of the World. The current space race has shown the same. Only the people with millions/billions need apply. Helping people that control others and are built on Greed first principles isn't going to help this World evolve at all.

This isn't make believe. Check around. Watch the Science Channel. It has tons of programs now on new tech Science is working on. The show "Through the Wormhole" will show you how far we have come and how much further they are then you realize.

[Szaxx]

A few have access to this technology, it already exists. A clean power source is one thing, as with all these brilliant devices some trust has to be applied. If a.device was released into the public domain, what do you think it would be used for? Clean power or used in an uncontrolled cryogenic feedback loop.
I think its best left as far away from idiots as possible.
Our galactic arm doesn't need to be the start of the next big bang.
Work it out. Gain of 1*10E9 on one pass. Loop this one million times and boom.
Respect is something god fanatics don't really have a grip on.

It's unfortunate but we're not ready for this yet. 

[Volgerle]

Our galactic arm doesn't need to be the start of the next big bang.

Yes, that's nicely put. And probably that's the main reason why UFO/ET are showing more and more activity round here. They are worried about these little naughty Earth children playing around with knives and matchsticks in their kindergarden. What if they suddenly find a gun? 

[TylerSnotgern]

Humanity has not evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for themselves in dishonorable way.

Humanity has evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for the collective good in honorable way.

Both your point of argument and mine are not falsifiable. 

[Lionheart]

Humanity has evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for the collective good in honorable way.

Both your point of argument and mine are not falsifiable. 

I say you are about 10% right Tyler and Lightbeam gets the other 90% at this time in our history. Will that change? Hopefully someday! 

[Szaxx]

Humanity has evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for the collective good in honorable way.

Both your point of argument and mine are not falsifiable. 

We already do this in the NP.
We also RESPECT it's use.
The rest of the population on Earth is another story unfortunately.

[Xanth]

Humanity has evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for the collective good in honorable way.

Both your point of argument and mine are not falsifiable. 

Humanity is kind of in the stage of kindergarten...

You REALLY think that humanity wouldn't fall into complete chaos having those powers open to us?   I think we would destroy each other.

[phaseshiftR1111]

I agree. People can't care for one another, people can't even take care of themselves yet! I can't imagine what would happen.

[TylerSnotgern]

Quote from: TylerSnotgern on Yesterday at 05:16:54
"Humanity has evolved enough morally to be able to operate with teleportation, telekinesis, etc without causing chaos and catastrophe, simply because everyone will be using it to gain something for the collective good in honorable way.

Both your point of argument and mine are not falsifiable.  evil"

Humanity is kind of in the stage of kindergarten...

You REALLY think that humanity wouldn't fall into complete chaos having those powers open to us?   I think we would destroy each other.

Yes, I think that we not only could but are doing so at this moment in a very minor way.  Drop Andrew Basiago an email. He will explain teleportation to you.

As to telekinesis, this capability has been around for the longest time dating back to the ancient Egyptians reflected in their texts. Seems we are still here, are we not?

Again, as I pointed out, neither your position nor mine is falsifiable except that you are incorrect in terms of there being no examples of teleportation and telekinesis in use...and the non-results from their use.

[Xanth]

I never said there weren't examples of its use throughout the ages.   I honestly don't know.  Nor do I really care.

What I DID say was that humanity (modern humans)  wouldnt be able to have these powers and not destroy ourselves and everything around us with them.

I have a rather high regard for humans these days, but even I wouldn't trust anyone, including myself with those powers. 

[LightBeam]

As to telekinesis, this capability has been around for the longest time dating back to the ancient Egyptians reflected in their texts. Seems we are still here, are we not?

Wait a minute, do you have telekinetic abilities, does anyone on this forum does, please raise your hand. Do any of the worlds government possess in full such ability? If yes, our war systems would have been very different. I would like to see this ability in the hands of the north Korean leader and then we will talk about honorable ways. Even if the US gov had it, do you think that this corrupt, power driven institution would use it to help the masses? They are not doing it now, I can imagine with such power what the consequence would be. Now, imagine that everyone had that power. The prisoners will be free, there will be no law, and basically whoever has the strongest power will rule. Or if organizations form collective power to dominate then the world will again be divided, just as it is now.
Someone may have experienced to some extend such abilities, but they are not fully developed, otherwise it would have become obvious by now. Or if some one has developed these abilities and the world has not been destroyed yet, then these people are some of the few morally and spiritually developed to a degree where the negative human characteristics such as greed, selfishness, power, possessions  are absent.But let's face it, as of now 90% of the humans still carry these DNA encodings in them. If it was otherwise, there would have been no prisons, criminals, law to keep everyone in check, etc......

[Lionheart]

I have a rather high regard for humans these days, but even I wouldn't trust anyone, including myself with those powers. 

I was thinking this very thing yesterday. I know that I am not in control enough of my emotions and self control period, that I could be trusted with these abilities at the moment.

All it would take is just one negative action or moment of greed by each and every person to cause irreparable chaos and carnage.

It doesn't take much to fuel a fire these days. Just look at the current events in Thailand, Egypt and now the Ukraine. There's unrest everywhere now. Even in the USA, it's just the people here just grump and moan, but they don't act. 

[TylerSnotgern]

Wait a minute, do you have telekinetic abilities, does anyone on this forum does, please raise your hand.

So telekinesis does not exist? In recent years after a number of experiments on telekinesis, Dr. Robert G. Jahn (the head of the Laboratory of abnormal studies at Princeton University) managed to prove that the human by his psyche can affect material objects. It was verified after thousands of experiments, which involved hundreds of men and women of all ages and professions. Subjects had to move a pendulum, placed under a transparent plastic cap. Five subjects were able to do it at any time and distance.

Psychokinesis is amply demonstrated in physical mediumship, again, scientifically verified, investigated and concluded to be real by thousands and thousands of cases both in modern and historical physical mediumship seance. Braude/Muegge comes directly to mind.

[LightBeam]

So telekinesis does not exist? In recent years after a number of experiments on telekinesis, Dr. Robert G. Jahn (the head of the Laboratory of abnormal studies at Princeton University) managed to prove that the human by his psyche can affect material objects.

I never said telekinesis does not exist. Some people may be able to lift a feather few mms. We are talking here about full blown telekinetic abilities such as moving all kinds of objects freely for example regardless of size or weight, or ripping the molecules of your body apart. Or full blown human teleportation, where one can teleport himself into a bank and get himself out unnoticed. This is what we are talking about. These abilities can be unlocked, however humans are not ready to manipulate with the full power of these abilities.

[Xanth]

Again, these things do exist whether you care, or wish to refuse their existence, or not. We are still here.

'Nuff said then.

Again, straw man.  Nobody here ever said those abilities don't exist.