Gathering place for projectors

[deepspace]

On two occasions recently, I ended up in what was essentially some sort of meeting room for people who were projecting. In one, there were groups of people gathered around tables in a large room working on projects together. Each group was focused on some common outcome and I knew they were doing something, but you couldn't tell what it was just by watching. They were communicating, but with energy, not words. The energy level was really high, and just being there was a really wonderful experience.

In another,  I was welcomed and pretty much told. "you found us, glad you made it." able to ask some questions: "so what is this place?" One of them told me that this was where they came to relax and just be together. "We all have 'day-lives', but come here to meet."

So I am wondering if anyone else has had any similar experiences that they could share. I am also planning on going back so would like to have an ongoing discussion to compare experiences, maybe I'll run into someone here, who knows

[Xanth]

The closest experience I've had is my grassy fields projection.   It's here on the forums somewhere... It's also on my website.  It wasn't as communicative though.

[deepspace]

I've had several now, my most recent went like this:

It was my turn to host the monthly meeting where a group of APers would meet. The plan was to have these meetings at least monthly and we would meet at a different person's "house" for the purpose of trying to join up inside the room while projecting. There was quite a large group of people there. Everyone had started off in a separate room in the house and then we would project into this large room if possible to meet up there. We were doing things like counting our fingers and just comparing with each other, discussing the fact we were in the NPR. We were all excited that we were able to do it and how interesting it was. I consciously started to over-analyze things and questioning how I could know if the same people were there when we started, how could we be doing this, etc. That was when everything started fading out and I went back. It was strange because from there I had a false awakening and although some of the same people were there talking, we tested the reality and found we were not in the NPR. So I'm not really sure what was going on there, but I love the concept and find it very interesting.

[Szaxx]

...I consciously started to over-analyze things and questioning how I could know if the same people were there when we started, how could we be doing this, etc. That was when everything started fading out and I went back.

Doubt has a negative effect on those who should know better.

It was strange because from there I had a false awakening and although some of the same people were there talking, we tested the reality and found we were not in the NPR. So I'm not really sure what was going on there, but I love the concept and find it very interesting.

Doubt actually manifesting. 
Repeat after me,  'I am the master and doubt has no place in my thoughts.'
Now then these artifacts of confusion will dissapear completely.

[CFTraveler]

I've had many that are like that- like an 'office' space that is an anteroom to the actual projection, and every once in a while I would end up there on my way back from an adventure.  I remember I once tried to go overseas and got lost in the ocean, and when I got back the "gang" was there in the 'astral office' asking me how it went, laughing at me actually.  Later on I asked for help going there and it worked.  So I just assumed they were some part of my 'helpers/oversoul/or whatever you call them.'  They hardly ever volunteered anything, but helped when I asked.
I haven't seen 'them' in a while, that I can remember.

[deepspace]

Doubt actually manifesting.  
Repeat after me,  'I am the master and doubt has no place in my thoughts.'
Now then these artifacts of confusion will dissapear completely.

I knew that talking about the Randi Prize there was a bad idea  

But seriously, there is always the risk that doubts will manifest although most of my experiences have really been unaffected by my beliefs. There have been plenty of times that I stayed in absolute disbelief for the whole experience thinking the entire time about how I couldn't believe what was happening. To my surprise, nothing changed and there no noticeable adverse effects (other than feeling like an idiot). And other times, less often, when any doubt will immediately manifest. Most of what I would call my "real deal" NPR experiences have been less than believable. I often have not been able to completely believe that it is actually happening and sometimes leave because of this.

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I've had many that are like that- like an 'office' space that is an anteroom to the actual projection, and every once in a while I would end up there on my way back from an adventure.  I remember I once tried to go overseas and got lost in the ocean, and when I got back the "gang" was there in the 'astral office' asking me how it went, laughing at me actually.  Later on I asked for help going there and it worked.  So I just assumed they were some part of my 'helpers/oversoul/or whatever you call them.'  They hardly ever volunteered anything, but helped when I asked.
I haven't seen 'them' in a while, that I can remember.

One of my experiences was really similar to what you are describing. The people there were just relaxing and socializing like they had just gotten off from work, but it seemed like the work part was what they were calling their "day-life". I had just materialized there, so they took notice and seemed a little surprised, but very welcoming. I'm really interested in finding my way back there, hopefully soon.

[SaneSir]

I had a similar projection this morning and was also curious if anyone has had the same thing. I just asserted I wanted to be where I was needed and I found myself in some kind of meeting room, where people around my age were having conversation. They welcomed me as if I have been there before, and I found myself conversing with like-minded people as myself on all kinds of theories.  Funny... I tried to write my facebook for them but the letters kept morphing...

[DeathSentry]

New here and have not had an obe yet but very much interested in your experiences. Tried once as a child; had a negative experience with a shadow so only thought about trying again recently (been looking at a lot of Robert monroe vids).  Had an experience last month where I started to vibrate but got scared and stopped; hoping to try again next week.

[deepspace]

New here and have not had an obe yet but very much interested in your experiences. Tried once as a child; had a negative experience with a shadow so only thought about trying again recently (been looking at a lot of Robert monroe vids).  Had an experience last month where I started to vibrate but got scared and stopped; hoping to try again next week.

Sounds like your getting close so keep trying. I've had quite a few mind-blowing OBE experiences in the NPR and it's well worth the effort required to get there. There are completely real worlds you can experience in exactly the same way you experience waking life. Really made me reevaluate my concept of reality that's for sure. Once you touch it you know.

[DeathSentry]

Sounds like your getting close so keep trying. I've had quite a few mind-blowing OBE experiences in the NPR and it's well worth the effort required to get there. There are completely real worlds you can experience in exactly the same way you experience waking life. Really made me reevaluate my concept of reality that's for sure. Once you touch it you know.

Thank you so much. One thing I was wondering, was reading a series of posts here by Frank Kepple (actually looked like someone compiled all of his posts) and he had some theories similar to Robert Monroe but one stated (focus area 2) that an OBE is really us exploring our inner mind, and as such, is a subjective reality  (vs. shared) within ourselves.  Was thinking though, don't you interact with each other/other entities? So was thinking it was more of a shared experience.

In any event, I'm excited to try.. was funny, was listening to a binaural youtube vid when that heavy vibration came on; felt so much like electricity and that I was falling (happened to be on my side at the time). I tend to look at this as exploration of normal but untapped human abilities vs. a paranormal type thing but I could be wrong.  Ok sorry, think I'm rambling.. like a kid in a candy store, this is one of the most exciting things that I've wanted to do for years and its about 40 years since I've tried.

[deepspace]

Thank you so much. One thing I was wondering, was reading a series of posts here by Frank Kepple (actually looked like someone compiled all of his posts) and he had some theories similar to Robert Monroe but one stated (focus area 2) that an OBE is really us exploring our inner mind, and as such, is a subjective reality (vs. shared) within ourselves. Was thinking though, don't you interact with each other/other entities? So was thinking it was more of a shared experience.

My opinion is that all "reality" is subjective, mainly due to the fact that in order for you to experience reality you must create it internally by taking in data through your senses and projecting it onto your internal screen. So in effect we are always experiencing reality through our inner mind if you want to call it that.

The more "shared" a reality is the more objective it seems but what we are really experiencing is stability and consistency, defined rule set, etc. not true objectivity. So when you project, you can end up in realities that are shared or just completely created by yourself. Of course you are always participating in that creation at some level, experiencing that reality through your own perception. There are often other entities there, maybe they are part of your creation or maybe not. So they may also be looking at you, maybe even wondering the same thing.

People often ask things like "But how do I know it's real?" or "What if I'm just imagining all of it?" From an experiential point of view, these things don't really matter. The only thing that is real is your experience. The value of an experience lies outside the concept of "what is real". If it turns out that our entire life is some kind of virtual reality simulation, it will have no less value from an experiential point of view. We don't need to invest ourselves into any realities by creating beliefs, whether it's our physical or non-physical world. I've spent quite a bit of time in the Astral trying to be skeptical, thinking to myself "I don't believe any of this is real." Then doing every test I could possibly do to try to prove I was right. My refusal to believe just turned out to be a waste of energy really, and didn't change anything, unless it got to the point where my intent changed. So basically going from "I don't believe this is real" to "I don't want this to be real" At that point you are exercising choice and of course you will create change. So my advice is don't put too much energy into trying to analyze the Astral, it's really way beyond that. Often, you can't even use words to describe it because there is no translation. The main thing is to just be there.

[DeathSentry]

Thank you for such a great answer, I truly hope I can achieve an OBE one day

My opinion is that all "reality" is subjective, mainly due to the fact that in order for you to experience reality you must create it internally by taking in data through your senses and projecting it onto your internal screen. So in effect we are always experiencing reality through our inner mind if you want to call it that.

The more "shared" a reality is the more objective it seems but what we are really experiencing is stability and consistency, defined rule set, etc. not true objectivity. So when you project, you can end up in realities that are shared or just completely created by yourself. Of course you are always participating in that creation at some level, experiencing that reality through your own perception. There are often other entities there, maybe they are part of your creation or maybe not. So they may also be looking at you, maybe even wondering the same thing.

People often ask things like "But how do I know it's real?" or "What if I'm just imagining all of it?" From an experiential point of view, these things don't really matter. The only thing that is real is your experience. The value of an experience lies outside the concept of "what is real". If it turns out that our entire life is some kind of virtual reality simulation, it will have no less value from an experiential point of view. We don't need to invest ourselves into any realities by creating beliefs, whether it's our physical or non-physical world. I've spent quite a bit of time in the Astral trying to be skeptical, thinking to myself "I don't believe any of this is real." Then doing every test I could possibly do to try to prove I was right. My refusal to believe just turned out to be a waste of energy really, and didn't change anything, unless it got to the point where my intent changed. So basically going from "I don't believe this is real" to "I don't want this to be real" At that point you are exercising choice and of course you will create change. So my advice is don't put too much energy into trying to analyze the Astral, it's really way beyond that. Often, you can't even use words to describe it because there is no translation. The main thing is to just be there.

[Astralzombie]

Years ago I was kicked out of a meeting because they said that I wasn't serious enough and needed to commit myself to the experience. I now know they were right then but I think they would accept me now if I ever ran across them again.

[EscapeVelocity]

Wonderfully said deepspace.