Where Do I Project?

[svs1]

hello:)
i would really love if someone can help me!
i had several OBEs.
the thing is - the  more i read the more i get the idea that im not really projecting.

I alwyas fall asleep or get stuck in almost a sleep paralysis (sometimes for 2 hours ).
all the times ive been "out of my body" was when i just woke up still asleep.

i always fell very detached from my body when it happens.
yesterday i managed to walk to the bathroom and look at myself in the mirror (i looked strange, like made of broken energy, but still like myself), and i saw 2 girls siting on my parents bad. no way those kids where there!

in another time i woke up in a very heavy trance state.
i didnt hear anything (although the fan was on) and i tried the rope technique. i actually saw the rope, and when i reached my arm to grab it - a glowing blue hands left my pysical hands and grab the rope. i managed to pull myself up and i was out.
the sensation was bizzare, everythink looked like it was light liquid  and i saw without focus.

did i really project?!
im trying for years now, and this is the only way i succeed. i really want to manage to leave my body when ever i want and not just when im lucky.

in all those time i clearly remembring the feeling that im floating in my body. but the places i projected was different.

can any one help? can anyone direct me to some info about intention obe??

thanks guys!

[deepspace]

If you find yourself in another world, a different world from the one you normally experience during waking life and you can experience it in the same way, then you are projecting. How you get there doesn't really matter, only your experience there.

In the Astral, "where" is not a relevant term since the concept of location does not exist. You are not going to e place, you are moving dimensionally.  so in a sense the place is coming to you. In the words of the Matrix: "It is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself".

So my advice is not to get caught up in questions like, "Is this really real?" or "Am I really outside my body?" etc. Comparing things with what you think you know about the physical reality where we spend most of our time. It's more important to just experience the Astral which it sounds like you are already doing. Just keep at it, sounds like you are doing pretty well.

[svs1]

thanks!
but how can i induce AP?
i want to just lie on my bad and do it!
i tried many methods. i get to the vibrational state in my hands and legs but my upper body, including the face are never vibrating and never a sleep :/
its not fear the holds me back (tho it used to be) i just get stuck!

any ideas on the matter?

[deepspace]

thanks!
but how can i induce AP?
i want to just lie on my bad and do it!
i tried many methods. i get to the vibrational state in my hands and legs but my upper body, including the face are never vibrating and never a sleep :/
its not fear the holds me back (tho it used to be) i just get stuck!

any ideas on the matter?

There are lots of methods to induce AP, but to me it is not the method, but learning to focus your intent. There is a difference between intending and believing, trying, wanting, etc. Those are good things too, but the process is "intent driven", both in getting there and what happens once you get there. Focusing your intent is an illusive concept and something that is not easy to grasp or explain. I have done it by just trial and error, plus sheer will and determination. And of course LOTS of practice. I got out this morning, after days of trying unsuccessfully, but I really have to put my entire effort into it, anything less doesn't do it for me. But it's so fantastic to just "pop" into another complete world, I never know exactly where or with whom I will end up.

This morning it was a large group of children in a room. They were all seated kind of in a line. I thought to myself "hurry up think of something to say to these kids before you have to go back, quick , but what?" The first thing that I thought of was asking them something about where I live in California. Then, Oh, O.K. how about "Do you know the way to San Jose you know, like the song? It was kind of funny because I just went down the line and asked them one by one. Most said no, but one said he had heard of the song after I started singing it. I was having a great time there. At one point they started to fade away and go dark. I said "Hey wait a minute you can't leave me. This is MY projection and you are supposed to be here for me. There was a chorus of "No we aren't!" One said to me, "I'm here for myself." I said jokingly "I guess you're selfish huh? And the child said "Yes I'm selfish, but moral." It's quite interesting what you run into.

[svs1]

it is VERY intresting!
thats why i want to find out if i truely projecting.

how do you know its not a very lucid dream?

[Szaxx]

When you 'dream'  a disaster and a week later watch the exact scene as in your 'dream'.
That's thrown it up in the air. Lol

[Lionheart]

 SVS, here's a simple technique to jumpstart a great adventure.

Once in a good deep meditative state, visualize a small patch of sand in front of you. You don't want to see an entire scene yet. Don't rush it. For now, just look at that small patch of sand. This should be the only thing you can see now. Watch as it gets more vivid. At first you may find or should I say you will find that it is hard to just keep that image there. But for now, you just want to be persistent and keep creating that patch of sand.

Once you have a good hold on it, slowly move backwards and ALLOW more of the scene to come into play. Once again, don't rush it. Be AWARE of everything you see. You may even start to hear and feel the scene. If you want to ground/anchor it further, bend down and pick up a handful of sand and watch as it sifts between your fingers back to the ground.

Now, when you are ready, move back a bit more and take in more of the scene. If something peaks your interest, go investigate it further. If something out of the ordinary occurs, pay attention to it. This is when your adventure is about to take it's course.

This entire exercise is great because you are consciously aware of the entire scenario the entire time. You have been there for the birth of it, have watched it morph into a full bloom scenario, then watched as it faded away.

Try this and post your results later. You could substitute the sand and beach scene for a blade of grass, morphing to an entire meadow or even a puddle of water that comes to life. Be creative. Have fun with it.  

[deepspace]

how do you know its not a very lucid dream?

I don't understand why that even matters really. The main thing is to have the highest level experience and be as conscious as possible during that experience. It really doesn't matter what you call that experience.

The only thing I know for sure is that I experience it as a real world, just as real as my waking life world. And I have studied that world quite a bit while there. I've seen it in vivid colors, hi-definition visuals with all the detail I wanted to see, I've tasted it at 200% of waking life taste, I've smelled it.  I have kicked it, thrown things at it, lifted things, hurt myself on things, even bled there. And God only knows how much I've touched it. A total of many hours just touching, feeling textures, wetness, hardness, you name it. All the while fully conscious and making mental notes to take back with me. I even made physical notes on paper which I was absolutely convinced that I could take back with me even though I knew I wasn't in the physical world.

And if it helps any, I was entirely skeptical a great deal of the time, telling myself that I didn't believe any of it, telling myself that reality at that level couldn't be possible. In fact there were many times where I just couldn't handle it and would bail out, because it screwed up my entire view of what reality was or at least what I thought reality was.

A certain amount of skepticism is good, but repeatedly denying that what you experience is real, thinking it's only in your imagination becomes counterproductive. I don't ask questions like "what is real" any more, because they don't apply for me.  

So maybe it is a dream, but then, maybe waking life is too.

Maybe you have been living in a dream world, Neo.