Looking to move to another country to learn about Astral Projection,where to go?

[Detuned_Radio]

Hello,

I am looking at the various cultures that observe astral projection, and I'm finding that there certain sects within the same belief system that practice astral projection more rigorously than others. I want to know which culture practices it the most? The Taoists, Hindus, Sufis or who? and from within said religion, which of the sects practices it more.

The reason I ask is because I intend to to move to a temple, ashram or anywhere else (temporarily for 5 years or so) to practice/evolve spiritually. Astral projection is very important to the process, but I am also interested in adopting new way of life and thinking which includes but is not limited to countless hours of meditation each day.

The question(s):

Where would you recommend going? More specifically, where and Who to go to in that country? Take India for example, it's huge, and there are many different people with different beliefs, and some are more interested in astral projection than others.

I appreciate any feedback, and hope to find good recommendations! Thanks.

P.S. I know it's not necessary to go anywhere to learn more about Astral Projection, but that is not the primary focus of my journey.

[desert-rat]

hear in the US you can get access to the net and find info in new age book stores . I would say just about any other country that did not restrict beliefs , had new age stores , and had inter net . 

[Detuned_Radio]

The thing is, I'm not from the U.S. I'm from Kuwait 

I want to experience a spiritual journey where I can safely practice some of the more intense rituals (such as experiencing a Kundalini awakening), without having to worry about work or car maintenance. I'm thinking of going to an Ashram, but need help finding a suitable one. I'm also open to any form of suggestions.

A shaman I know suggested going to Peru, and practicing with the shamans there. However, I'm more attracted to the eastern belief system.

[Xanth]

Understand that spiritual growth doesn't happen by hiding in a temple.  Spiritual growth happens though your interactions with other consciousnesses.   You don't need to go to a temple of ashram for this.

Quite the opposite in fact.  Learn that the temple is within you through those interactions.

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

If you want something very very deep I were you I would go with studying and doing ceremonies with the shamans, as they can clear your energy body much faster than meditating. But once you got the initial karmic blockages out I would then go with an ashram perhaps. Or you can check out http://www.iacworld.org/english they have a couple of places around the world where you can learn astral projection. And of course you can learn it in America at http://www.monroeinstitute.org/  Perhaps meetup.com has some place where you can learn or specialize in astral projection. Just type in astral projection and India OR Bangladesh into the meetup.com search engine, IDK.

In the end I wouldn't go with any of these unless you want to seclude yourself in order to meditate at least 8 hours a day and mostly focus on meditation practice. I've thought about doing this myself. But my health doesn't permit it. I have found free places where you can live there and do meditation. Though one of them was very small, and they could only take so many people. Didn't you google search this? I found some places with little effort some time ago when I as searching. I have to go to bed now, but tomorrow I will help a little more.

[Astralzombie]

It isn't easy paying the bills if you are meditating eight hours a day and most countries aren't willing to grant citizenship or long term visas to someone who isn't already financially stable or doesn't have a  needed skill that the host country views as critical.

You may have to make an appeal to a monastery and see if they are willing to host you on their behalf. Peru isn't likely to do this because they are trying to shed their image and want to be seen as industrialized nation and many Buddhist monasteries don't take foreigners seriously since theirs can be a hard path for people born outside of the culture. There are exceptions so don't give up easily.

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

Do you want anymore help with this Detuned_Radio?

[Detuned_Radio]

Understand that spiritual growth doesn't happen by hiding in a temple.  Spiritual growth happens though your interactions with other consciousnesses.   You don't need to go to a temple of ashram for this.

Quite the opposite in fact.  Learn that the temple is within you through those interactions.

I agree with this on many levels, and yes, spiritual growth does occur with interactions with the ones around you. However, with the research I've been gathering, many people seem to require a break from reality once they begin experiencing Kundalini awakening. It's a powerful energy that can cause serious issues if not awakened in the right environment. This is the main reason I want to be away when this happens.

If you want something very very deep I were you I would go with studying and doing ceremonies with the shamans, as they can clear your energy body much faster than meditating. But once you got the initial karmic blockages out I would then go with an ashram perhaps. Or you can check out http://www.iacworld.org/english they have a couple of places around the world where you can learn astral projection. And of course you can learn it in America at http://www.monroeinstitute.org/  Perhaps meetup.com has some place where you can learn or specialize in astral projection. Just type in astral projection and India OR Bangladesh into the meetup.com search engine, IDK.

In the end I wouldn't go with any of these unless you want to seclude yourself in order to meditate at least 8 hours a day and mostly focus on meditation practice. I've thought about doing this myself. But my health doesn't permit it. I have found free places where you can live there and do meditation. Though one of them was very small, and they could only take so many people. Didn't you google search this? I found some places with little effort some time ago when I as searching. I have to go to bed now, but tomorrow I will help a little more.

The shamanic rituals are very deep, it appears they get zapped into the spiritual realm faster than any other practices. I understand their use of substances such as ayahuasca can bring about enhanced spiritual experiences quick. From what I gathered, shamans are very secretive and selective with who they teach their knowledge to. This is all fine, and not a problem if I was considering shamanism, but something about them that I can't quite put my finger on. I respect their culture and rituals, that's for sure. I'd definitely be interested in learning more about soul retrievals from them, but I'm not sure, maybe not just yet.

I'm finding an opportunity present itself in India, working for a newly established I.T. firm in the academic sector. It's nice because I can work from home for this job. However, I'm seriously looking into moving to India to work with the other staff members (meetings etc.). This company is based in Bangalore, but given the nature of my job, I can work from anywhere in India.

My question is:

• Where in India do you think I will be able to find an area that has people interested in astral projection, and Kundalini energy? As you are well aware, different regions in India have different cultural backgrounds/language/heritage/beliefs.
• Does this place have easy access to good internet and electricity ? So that I can work remotely and pay the bills

   

It isn't easy paying the bills if you are meditating eight hours a day and most countries aren't willing to grant citizenship or long term visas to someone who isn't already financially stable or doesn't have a  needed skill that the host country views as critical.

You may have to make an appeal to a monastery and see if they are willing to host you on their behalf. Peru isn't likely to do this because they are trying to shed their image and want to be seen as industrialized nation and many Buddhist monasteries don't take foreigners seriously since theirs can be a hard path for people born outside of the culture. There are exceptions so don't give up easily.

You are correct, this is something I am considering greatly. I'm torn between saving up for 2-3 years then moving, or moving there (wherever there is, most likely India) and finding a job, save up (whilst regularly visiting an ashram), then once enough is saved up to move into an ashram.

Do you want anymore help with this Detuned_Radio?

Sorry for the late response, please read the reply to your original post above. I appreciate your feedback greatly!

Thanks everyone for taking the time to read and write back! I appreciate it

[Astralsuzy]

I have learnt that by doing courses it does not mean that you you are going to learn astral projection.    I am not saying do not do a course.   By doing a course, it is fun.   You have the atmosphere and you meet people that have the same interest.    The teachers cannot ap themselves.   They teach you things which will not help you with ap.    They do not teach you meditation or the basics.    It cost a lot of money.    I do not regret going as it was an experience.    I would not do it again.    The best way to learn to ap is to practice yourself.    Practicing meditating and you are half way there.    I do not know of any courses in India.    Anyone can set up a course and charge money for it.    You do not have to have any qualifications.  It would be better to do a meditation course or a meditation retreat.   I have never been on a meditation retreat but I think it would be good discipline.   

[cyborg]

Maybe visiting India specific sites such as Indiamike.com might give the answers about India.

Link to the spirituality section: indiamike.com/india/spirituality-and-religion-in-india-f54/

[Xanth]

I agree with this on many levels, and yes, spiritual growth does occur with interactions with the ones around you. However, with the research I've been gathering, many people seem to require a break from reality once they begin experiencing Kundalini awakening. It's a powerful energy that can cause serious issues if not awakened in the right environment. This is the main reason I want to be away when this happens.

You're still not really getting my point. 
This might just be one of those things you need to discover on your own in order for it to sink in properly... but I'll give it one last try anyway. 

Realize that the temple is within you... there's never any break from reality one needs.  Reality is inescapable.  Literally. 
Even when you die... you're going from one reality to another.  When you meditate, again... just a new reality. 

When you realize that the temple is within you, labels such as "kundalini" lose all meaning and power.  When that becomes your truth, you'll understand. 
Escaping reality is as much an illusion as this entire reality is or you being an individual is.

[soarin12]

with the research I've been gathering, many people seem to require a break from reality once they begin experiencing Kundalini awakening. It's a powerful energy that can cause serious issues if not awakened in the right environment. This is the main reason I want to be away when this happens.

If the only reason you want to go to India is fear of how the Kundalini awakening will affect you, I would seriously rethink your decision.  It can only make you sick or 'crazy' if you're afraid of it.  You feel some weird effects, get scared-which causes more weird effects-more fear...etc. etc.  I know this from personal experience.  It can be hard not to feel fear when you experience some of it's effects, but you have to relax and remind yourself that this is happening for your good and spiritual growth.  Fear that is not released and dealt with is what will mess things up for you.  Also, if your awakening is leading you into being increasingly more humble and loving, you are on the right path.  Some unfortunately, when feeling this new power, become egotistical, thinking they are better than others.  Don't let it happen to you and you'll do great.  So to some up,   love...humility... and no fear    That's all you need to remember.  Have the intention toward these three things and you will have no problems with Kundalini. (What a word!  Here in this country, I think it scares people just to say it. lol.)  Hope you are not offended by the unsolicited advice!  I know it's not the answer you asked for.

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

If your afraid of how kundalini will effect you then just stick with water meditation. And stay away from fire traditions.

Also I heard that you want to work in India. This sounds more like you just want to get out from the place you are at right now, than to seclude yourself so that you can meditate many hours a day. You just might be able to do it if you go part time. I am thinking like 20 hours a week if your lucky. But that could easily be pushing it especially if you get a stressful job or a long commute, which would negate the meditative benefits. So I doubt this is going to give you the benefits you think you are going to get. Most all the spiritual practices that you think they have for you at an Ashim you can learn right from your computer or books right off of amazon or something. So if I were you I would just focus on secluding yourself right at your current place you are living, and meditate many hours a day there, and practice astral projection while your at it. If you are insistent on going to India then go to meetup.com like I said and type in Bangalore, India into the "within * Miles of" box. But IMO I don't think this is going to give you what you are looking for. And if you think you could prove it to me other wise, then tell me what you think going to India is going to give you, more than staying where you are currently at? I know you were talking about not having to deal with car problems, then why not just buy a new car? And if your can't, then why do you think going to India is not going to give you car problems. If getting public transportation is an issue. Then find someplace near you that has public transportation. In the end if you mostly just want to get out of your current situation for non-spiritual reasons then say that. I'm just having a hard time believing that you have to go to India. Do they have any places where you can meditate where you live right now? Try meetup.com and see if you don't know.

Peace.

[Fusions]

Why not try some vipassana retreats first, that is 100 hours of meditation in 10 days. People there have kundalina awakenings all the time and the teachers now how to deal with it.

There also is a difference between 'going to' and 'running away from'.

[Detuned_Radio]

I appreciate everones input  I will keep this reply short ( as I am typing from my phone, hopefully I will edit it later). I understand that my intentions may not be clear for the lack of clarification on my end. Kundalini is to be respected and not feared, I understand this and hope to do just that.

I feel that if the opportunity is presenting itself in India, and there is large room for spiritual growth there, why not go for it? I am limited with the resources available in Kuwait, and many advise undergoing Kundalini with a teacher of sorts. I do appreciate the feedback from everyone and I hope to add more in the future.

P.S. I will be going to a 1 week trip to India and see what it's like over there. Any recommendations?

[desert-rat]

If you have enough money to live on, then earning a living is not a problem .  If you need to work to live , then you need to see what jobs are avaible. See if they require work permits , ect.       .  Also you will want to see how outsiders are treated .  Hear in the USA most people  have no problem with people from other parts of the world , but we do have a few people that do not accept them . Language is another problem , you would want to think a bit before going to a country with a difficult to learn language .   

[desert-rat]

You could visit a place for as long as a visa would allow  , rent a place , then go back home after having learned and teach others at home . 

[PlasmaAstralProjection]

P.S. I will be going to a 1 week trip to India and see what it's like over there. Any recommendations?

Make sure you have a backup plan if you get robbed, or any other number of things that can go wrong on a trip to a foreign country.

Good luck.