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phaseshiftR1111

most authors i run into about this have the same idea. robert bruce who can see spirits... one of my best friends rich... i know many authors have talked about this. how do you see it?

you hear a lot... "we are all one" "we come from the same source" i definitely get that. source made copies of itself... etc. but am i all of you? are you me? am i creating this whole thing and i am everybody as well as you are everybody and everything? i came across this theory and its mind boggling. yet i still dont totally get it because i see a rapist or a murderer and go whelp i guess thats me... and that part kinda gets to me. or do we all come from the same source but all have different spirits and identities? THAT would make more sense to me. i know we all come from the same thing. consciousness. but if all of you are a copy of me... and i could literally see from millions of perspectives... you know what i mean?

whats your thought on this? how do you see this?

Szaxx

Take a busy day in your life.
In this day we are going to create a thoughtform for each second that transpires.
Now taking only the emotional reactions, we instill these into each thoughtform and they become alive with this emotional state you were in at that exact second.
Ok, at some point you see a guy walk into the video store, your thoughts are in wonderment. This created an inventor. A few seconds later you are in the shop too and see he picked up SAW the last one. You have already watched this and recall that scene in the shop window where the girl get chopped in half. The police are totally useless and you want to kill them for being so. In those few seconds you created psychopaths, murderers, selfish and nasty thoughtforms.
If you look at this in respect of YOUR own thoughts, how are WE all not made from one.
You're probably an ok person. Imagine the realm created by thoughtforms from a real psyco killer.
These people exist as they are a reflection of the thoughts of everyone. Greed and selfishness need to be banned from existing within our minds. Imagine the world then.
You may get to visit some in your travels...
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Fusions

Yes, this was crystal clear one moment while on shrooms. We are the same being, one consciousness that splits himself off into different version of itself to experience itself. This idea can really clear away your fear of what others think of you.
The One is ALL. And the All are One.

Volgerle

It's all a matter of the perspective / frame of reference. So the answer is always YES or NO depening on where you look at it from.

Fusions

The One is ALL. And the All are One.

phaseshiftR1111

It's really mind boggling... I kind of understsnd it... It just makes me feel lonely. If every single thing to exist is me in a different perspective

Fusions

Quote from: phaseshiftR1111 on April 14, 2014, 16:03:08
It's really mind boggling... I kind of understsnd it... It just makes me feel lonely. If every single thing to exist is me in a different perspective
From what I have heard, being one with all that is, is everything but lonely.
The One is ALL. And the All are One.

phaseshiftR1111

#7
I could see that. So are other people's actions really me on a superconscious level? Let's say someone stabs a person to death. Or even stabs me to death for that matter. I'd say oh yeah... That was just me with another consciousness I wasn't perceiving from.

Szaxx

Nah, you're one aspect of the whole. Like a grain of sand on a beach on planet Earth in the milkyway in the universe which is part of the multiverse through all time including all those energies we know and many more we don't.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Aaron330

I have been pondering this question too. Very interesting topic of discussion to say the least!
It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep; because my dreams are bursting at the seams.

Xanth

Quote from: phaseshiftR1111 on April 14, 2014, 03:42:34
most authors i run into about this have the same idea. robert bruce who can see spirits... one of my best friends rich... i know many authors have talked about this. how do you see it?

you hear a lot... "we are all one" "we come from the same source" i definitely get that. source made copies of itself... etc. but am i all of you? are you me? am i creating this whole thing and i am everybody as well as you are everybody and everything? i came across this theory and its mind boggling. yet i still dont totally get it because i see a rapist or a murderer and go whelp i guess thats me... and that part kinda gets to me. or do we all come from the same source but all have different spirits and identities? THAT would make more sense to me. i know we all come from the same thing. consciousness. but if all of you are a copy of me... and i could literally see from millions of perspectives... you know what i mean?

whats your thought on this? how do you see this?
You'll "get it" one day.  I wouldn't try too hard to understand it... it's not required for ANYTHING.
Actually, I'd go as far as saying that because reality tries so hard to hide this knowledge from us that you don't EVER need to know in order to spiritually grow.

lillymoon

Quote from: phaseshiftR1111 on April 14, 2014, 03:42:34
most authors i run into about this have the same idea. robert bruce who can see spirits... one of my best friends rich... i know many authors have talked about this. how do you see it?

you hear a lot... "we are all one" "we come from the same source" i definitely get that. source made copies of itself... etc. but am i all of you? are you me? am i creating this whole thing and i am everybody as well as you are everybody and everything? i came across this theory and its mind boggling. yet i still dont totally get it because i see a rapist or a murderer and go whelp i guess thats me... and that part kinda gets to me. or do we all come from the same source but all have different spirits and identities? THAT would make more sense to me. i know we all come from the same thing. consciousness. but if all of you are a copy of me... and i could literally see from millions of perspectives... you know what i mean?

whats your thought on this? how do you see this?

Someone once said to me, If you have to "ask". You're not ready to "know". Time will tell, Your understanding of it will develop, But in time.

Lionheart

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Quote from: lillymoon on April 18, 2014, 16:23:06
Someone once said to me, If you have to "ask". You're not ready to "know". Time will tell, Your understanding of it will develop, But in time.
I like that. Words to live by!  :-)

When I first began Aping, I was told to "OBSERVE". I had sooooooooooooooo many questions, like a lot of you do here, but was just told to OBSERVE. Now I understand why!  :wink:

lillymoon

Quote from: Lionheart on April 18, 2014, 18:31:00
I like that. Word to live by!  :-)

When I first began Aping, I was told to "OBSERVE". I had sooooooooooooooo many questions, like a lot of you do here, but was just told to OBSERVE. Now I understand why!  :wink:

There are always going to be questions, But sometimes the questions we must answer our-selves.

Fusions

This video actually explains why you are one with all that is, atleast this is one way to understand it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0YybCACQU
The One is ALL. And the All are One.

lillymoon

Quote from: Fusions on April 18, 2014, 20:18:49
This video actually explains why you are one with all that is, atleast this is one way to understand it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q0YybCACQU

No offense, but in my opinion, The understanding is different for everyone.

Xanth

Quote from: lillymoon on April 18, 2014, 20:22:50
No offense, but in my opinion, The understanding is different for everyone.
And there you have the illusion of separation.  :)

lillymoon

Quote from: Xanth on April 19, 2014, 20:12:43
And there you have the illusion of separation.  :)

How weird, I was discussing about god with someone and they said the exact same thing o.o

Xanth

Quote from: lillymoon on April 19, 2014, 20:42:50
How weird, I was discussing about god with someone and they said the exact same thing o.o
What if I told you... you were god?

lillymoon

Quote from: Xanth on April 19, 2014, 20:47:53
What if I told you... you were god?

That is the thing though, I am god. as you are god.

Xanth

Quote from: lillymoon on April 19, 2014, 21:00:07
That is the thing though, I am god. as you are god.
You'd be surprised how many people fight against that idea.  :)

lillymoon

Quote from: Xanth on April 19, 2014, 21:05:19
You'd be surprised how many people fight against that idea.  :)

True. but what do you think about it?

seapony

" If you have to 'ask' you're not ready to 'know..' "

Excuse me ? Have you never sought learning ? Never asked in order to
learn to experience to then know ?

To me..if you ask, you are ready to learn ! It is by learning that you come to know !