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soarin12

The other day I projected to my childhood home (not by choice-just ended up there) and it was a beautiful sunny day and everything was just like the physical.  I assumed I was in the RTZ.  I flew around the property and noticed a blue bottle sitting the driveway.  I thought, great!  I'll probably get a validation out of that.  I then flew around the back yard and saw a large triangular shaped cement planter.  It had several  (7 or 9)  statues of women standing in rows in the dirt, and several bright orange flowers planted around the statues. I immediately knew this is nothing my mom would have in her yard.  I flew inside the house to try to find my mom and she came down the hallway.  I said -Hi Mom.  Can you see me?  She said -Of course I can see you.  I made a pass around the kitchen and said - Watch me fly!  She said -I've seen you fly a million times!  I reasoned that because she could see and talk to me, I couldn't be in the RTZ.  The funny thing is, her astral self HAS seen me fly a million times.  I meet up with her quite often in the NPR.  My next thought was that this was maybe a sub-conscious projection (which made me feel let down for a moment) and then without warning, I was back in the physical.

I don't know what to make of this type of projection, and I'm starting to wonder if it is supposed to mean something and I'm just not getting it.

Is this subconscious garbage?  A parallel life of my Moms?  Not based in any form of reality but given to me to show me something?

My lucidity and clarity were top notch, and it's hard to believe that this extremely intricate and interesting planter wasn't put there for a reason.  -to get my attention or to show me something.

Also I'm noticing a pattern in my projections.  If I'm trying to look for meaning or validation, and then something happens that I consider a little bit stupid, I have a momentary feeling of disappointment, and then I'm immediately transported back to the physical without warning.  Are 'they' trying to tell me I'm blowing it?

BTW, I called my mom afterward and no plantar, blue bottle, or memories.

Szaxx

The blue bottle on your driveway indicates an end to an emotionally spiritual journey. It may be that you have successfully entered the astral proper and the struggles you've experienced are over.
The planter with it's contents also indicate a spiritual side where clarity and your gentle approach is recognised with spiritual perfection and gain. Being contained is a sign that you'll succeed too. The statues have added meaning but this depends upon the attachment you have eith them, not enough to say at present.
A basic interpretation, you'll have to piece it together.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

soarin12

Quote from: Szaxx on May 11, 2014, 09:05:38
The blue bottle on your driveway indicates an end to an emotionally spiritual journey. It may be that you have successfully entered the astral proper and the struggles you've experienced are over.
The planter with it's contents also indicate a spiritual side where clarity and your gentle approach is recognised with spiritual perfection and gain. Being contained is a sign that you'll succeed too. The statues have added meaning but this depends upon the attachment you have eith them, not enough to say at present.
A basic interpretation, you'll have to piece it together.

Thanks, Szaxx.  That's not the direction I was expecting you to go with that!  It makes me look at it in a way that didn't even occur to me.  Something happened with the planter that I didn't mention.  When I first saw it from a distance, the lady statues were standing up straight.  After I flew over and stood in front of it, the statues (which were facing me) were bending over at the waist.   If your interpretation is correct, it seems they were giving me a 'bow.' 

From your definition of astral proper (which I asked you about a long time ago) I'm already there so I don't know exactly what my achievement was.  This was my first visualization projection (thought I'd never be able to do that) so maybe that could be it or maybe it has something to do with my emotions/problems evening out, or a recognition of spiritual gain like you said above.  I'll have to see if anything new and different is presented in my next one.

Szaxx

The statues, were they just ornaments or likenesses of people you know?
This also adds to the interpretation. It does appear that you've been acknowledged as proficient. You have to realise this for more progress to be made.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

soarin12

Quote from: Szaxx on May 11, 2014, 14:45:34
The statues, were they just ornaments or likenesses of people you know?
This also adds to the interpretation. It does appear that you've been acknowledged as proficient. You have to realise this for more progress to be made.

My first thought when I saw the statues were that they looked like the virgin Mary or another religious saint but I never looked closely enough at their faces to know for sure who the personalities were.  The reason I said my mom would never have this in her yard is because doesn't like anything connected with religion.  For me, however, religious statues have a positive spiritual significance.

Szaxx

A little difficult but add the rest of it and it appears that your personal understanding probably with your higher self HAD issues but now these are not as strong if at all.
It suggests you have prevented yourself from progressing for a while and now a door has opened. This part you have mentioned by your first visualisation experience.
Let's hope you can repeat this at will.
Something has changed for the better, that is quite clear.  :-D
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

soarin12

The last few months I've had a major slow down in number of projections, and then recently they picked up again with new exit methods and realizations.  What the whole process made me realize, is that I'm not in charge of any of it.  I used to think that I was the one making it all happen.  I knew I had guides but had the idea that they were maybe about 5% involved in the whole process.  This wake up call made me realize that I go out when they say I go and experience what they want me to--I have to listen to how they're guiding me or I'm not going anywhere.  I'm not saying that this is necessarily everyone's path, but it has become clear that it is mine.  Definitely something I think I needed to realize in order to proceed.

So maybe the spiritual ladies bowing to me was my guides way of saying - yes, you got it.  They weren't bowing to my skill level as much as to my mindset being straightened out. (which is an important skill in itself)

Szaxx

The correct mindset is very important to succeed in anything and as thoughts are the prime mover in the NP it's moreso.
The bowing ladies is a nice touch, I like the style of action used to help you remember it. I had expected more from these statues and you filled in that gap nicely.
Overall, what I've personally experienced in connection to your last post is there appears to be some form of a control structure based upon your proficiency and mindset. The flying around days end and tasks are seemingly set for you to undertake. The better your success rate, the more intricate they become. Also, every single one of them is is NOT beyond your capabilities and they appear tailored to you as a person. This generates a strong desire for more and self feeds this desire for more. At no point does it interfere with the physical as you instinctively know where you are and as a result develop another personality that's applicable to NP only. This also gets manipulated by some apparent higher source and memories of physical world existance are duly altered in a fashion to not interfere with the experience your within.
Look out for this, it's something that doesn't occur to beginners but starts to manifest when the quests become challenging.
You'll be going to bed and drafted into retrievals soon by the progress your making. These are fun and a real challenge at times.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

urshebear

I would say, try not to be so skeptical or doubtful of your experience...maybe don't analyse it until its over and you may be able to hold on to the experience for longer

soarin12

Quote from: Szaxx on May 12, 2014, 06:36:10
The correct mindset is very important to succeed in anything and as thoughts are the prime mover in the NP it's moreso.
The bowing ladies is a nice touch, I like the style of action used to help you remember it. I had expected more from these statues and you filled in that gap nicely.
Overall, what I've personally experienced in connection to your last post is there appears to be some form of a control structure based upon your proficiency and mindset. The flying around days end and tasks are seemingly set for you to undertake. The better your success rate, the more intricate they become. Also, every single one of them is is NOT beyond your capabilities and they appear tailored to you as a person. This generates a strong desire for more and self feeds this desire for more. At no point does it interfere with the physical as you instinctively know where you are and as a result develop another personality that's applicable to NP only. This also gets manipulated by some apparent higher source and memories of physical world existance are duly altered in a fashion to not interfere with the experience your within.
Look out for this, it's something that doesn't occur to beginners but starts to manifest when the quests become challenging.
You'll be going to bed and drafted into retrievals soon by the progress your making. These are fun and a real challenge at times.

Thanks, Szaxx.  I identify with what you're saying.  I did express my intent to be a spiritual helper a long time ago, and a lot of my projections are centered around tests of my character.  How do I handle people who are angry with me, crying, in pain etc.  Also tests with negs. and I have this 'super-love' ability switched on in some so I can emotionally heal people.  I can definitely see which way the wind is blowing--just need to be more intuitive so as not to get side tracked with unimportant things.

soarin12

Quote from: urshebear on May 12, 2014, 10:21:43
I would say, try not to be so skeptical or doubtful of your experience...maybe don't analyse it until its over and you may be able to hold on to the experience for longer

Yeah, as I said to Szaxx above, I'm definitely tending to get side tracked or obsessed with certain things that are not part of the lesson. -- like trying to figure out if I'm really talking to my 'real' mom or not.  It's obvious, now, from what she said, "Of course I can see you!" and "I've seen you fly a million times!"  that my guides were trying to tell me --get over it!  This isn't where the lesson is!  The focus/lesson was the planter and blue bottle.

Thanks guys, for your input!  With out it the message would have gone right over my head and might have collected dust in the journal for another year! Lol.  Thanks also to Escape Velocity, who PMd me some very helpful insights as well!  :)

Szaxx

You've asked some important questions. The simple answer is, it's obvious when experiencing the quest'. The not so obvious is how you go about it in a way that works. I've been stumped at the very beginning with no idea whatsoever. I knew the feel of the experience immediately upon gaining full awareness but didn't know what to do. So many physical world memories were suppressed. You are there and always have been as far you know. The quest begins by your natural choices.
Angry people can be awkward to deal with. One being violent and not seeing sense was dragged (or phased) through a brick wall into a building. That worked well. The sad ones you encounter are more a mental challenge, if you get too involved it gets to you, if you don't a fail is likely.
As they are tailored to you, your experiences may differ from anyone elses in detail but the purpose is the same.
Your desire to help others will be realised when you are ready. The rest is an adventure you'll love. Expect some crystal clear experiences where a simple 'helpful to others' task is being presented, these are likely simulations. You'll feel the difference.
Best of luck.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.