Tupla Creation i.e Thought Form and my OBE

[darksidessj25]

Today, I was working on my tupla. A tupla is generally a thought form that manifest into onto this plane. Which can interact with you and what not. Just google it cause I don't feel like explaining it. Continuing on I was focusing on my dreamscape where my tupla will reside and I imagined the tarot card that I drew for a reading I did for my self earlier. I was also sitting indian style during meditation. I normally lay down but now I'm starting to just sit normally cause my back doesn't hurt that much anymore. After a while on focusing on my third eye and imagining in my the eye the dreamscape I suddenly projected there. I feel and landed on my face in the volcano that I imagined. It was kinda blurry and not very vivid. I seen my tupla right next to in the outfit I imagined as well. Kind of crazy huh? Prior to this i felt like someone was pulling me back and forth just slightly. Now I'm able to get out of body and go to my dreamscape world. :") I'm so excited. My tupla is a girl for those of you who are curious and her name is Vallery. Im not a lonely guy I've had real girlfriends, plenty of them. This tupla is not considered for sex but it is going to be my other body used for astral traveling so people don't reckoning me.

Tulpa Update: Han an OBE with my tulpa. I was sitting in the backyard with her and she asked if she had a soul. I felt really, really bad. I said of course you do. I think everone has the tulpa idea wrong. Seriously. They are beings that are manefested in the spiritual world and not the physical. I haven't even focused on my tulpa for a 2 weeks. Then outta know where she appears in a OBE. After she asked that, I touched her leg and I said can you feel that? Then she said yes. So this was defiantly my tulpa.

Ignore my grammer and my jumbled thoughts. I just like to type freely. I think I will be making youtube videos about my OBEs. I have tons of them. I will do meditation techniques as well the ones I use that seem to work well.

[Bluefirephoenix]

  extra credit for fun imagination.  Now look and see how your doing that in every day life.  Watch for them!! you don't just have one.

[desert-rat]

There is a video of this guy on you tube , he created a large cat maby a jag. , as a tulpa . As the story goes it took on a life of its own , he had to distory it . There are  warnings not to keep these things around too long .  

[Stillwater]

I have heard vague hearsay that the practice (tulpa generation) can lead to psychotic episodes if pursued too intensely.

Not sure if there is any truth to that, but be sure to take care in it all, and perhaps consider abandoning it if you find it leaving you with adverse effects.

[darksidessj25]

I have heard vague hearsay that the practice (tulpa generation) can lead to psychotic episodes if pursued too intensely.

Not sure if there is any truth to that, but be sure to take care in it all, and perhaps consider abandoning it if you find it leaving you with adverse effects.

Thanks for the advice. I will be sure to do so.

[darksidessj25]

There is a video of this guy on you tube , he created a large cat maby a jag. , as a tulpa . As the story goes it took on a life of its own , he had to distory it . There are  warnings not to keep these things around too long .  

Yea I watched that. He did it wrong though. He kept on feeding it to much energy. I'm making my tulpa energy dependent to where it doesn't need anyone's energy. She likes to meditate and do spiritual practices. I drew tarot cards for a what if spread and the outcome said it was good.

[Bluefirephoenix]

eh just dont mess with your body functions using them. If it becomes intrusive or obnoxious focus on something else for awhile. remember most of what your seeing is coming from you and is illusional youll be fine
the entity is always dependent on you. Ive heard that too its a myth.  you generate it its just thst you dont understand the extent of your ability to generate.

[sheriff_rango]

I haven't read anything on creating tulpas but I'm wondering if its similar to the 'Body of light' that the Golden Dawn used? I remember reading somewhere that if you gave it too much power it would get a life of its own or something.

[Bluefirephoenix]

no Tulpas are a type of thoughtform generated by meditation. the GD body of light is a formation of your astral body. theyre both thoughtforms and generated by the operator Tulpa making is closer to evocation in the G D system. If you have the Golden Dawn Journals.In the anthologies The article on Egyptian godmaking by Donald Tyson covers the concept in a more GD context. The books were published by the Ciceros  As with evocation the spirit generated by tulpa making is visible and audible to the operator
In Tibetian spiritual work the name Tulpa was first bought to the west by dr Alexander Niel. The practice is also western and recorded in a number of places. Its prevelent in nordic folk magick and recorded inthe eddas
In contemporary practice its characteristic of chaos magick but full development is rarely if ever acheived. But you gotta give the kids credit for trying and hopfully some will persist to mature their art. The popular figure for this was My Little Pony.  I have to say it was a interesting if slightly creepy idea

[Szaxx]

Similar to Mr Staypuffed in the Ghostbuster movie.
That was a brilliant idea...

[Bluefirephoenix]

which is creepier the giant walking growling marshmello or a purple pony clip clopping through the house.

maybe if we made an egregore ( a tulpa made by a group of people) it would be powerful enough to be seen by others. It might not be the big staypuft but it could possibly resemble the michilin man.

the phillip experiment is a good example of making an egregore.  Only the people there didn't do their homework and didn't realize what they were doing was a skill that was actually thousands of years old.

[Szaxx]

I've created a thoughtform and it's dormant in the Badlands,( not phased into any reality). Should I get challenged again by the Darkness I'll drag him there and awaken the beast of fire.
It has one purpose with precise direction, there's no way it's getting out. No mind of its own and self destruction without my directive.
I never thought of them being capable of entering this world.
Interesting concept.

[Stillwater]

I never thought of them being capable of entering this world.
Interesting concept.

The contemporary idea is that they are a shade of a person's own psyche... that is why it is said to be like electing to develop a disassociative personality disorder... the theory being at a certain point of acclimation to the practice, the person may forget the tulpa is merely a concept, and interact with it as an external being.

But this is sort of a pop-cultural idea. I have never encountered a person that had actually happened to.

[Bluefirephoenix]

The psychological label is modern but the buddhists believe the entity stems from the psych. The traditional western thoughtforms are considered separate but created by the mind.
I do think that Schitzoform mental illness are related to this.  I think that largely the thoughtforms take on shape and the person can see or hear them.  What they tend to see and hear certainly resemble shadows and if you know the patient well you can see the relationship to their fears and psychological issues.

In dissociative disorders it's internalized into multiple personalities posession syndrome, dissociation can be a characteristic of something like schiztophrenia or acute delirium

The process of learning to control a psychic ability may offer some help to people who are involuntarily exposed to the astral and cannot handle it well.  The main issue I think is sleep deprivation that the condition causes. THe activity in the astral is continuous and it can inturrupt your sleep. ( I had trouble at first til I learned to control the clairaudience)  If the sleep deprivation can be overcome with the medications then control could be learned instead of depending on antipsychotics or a reduced dependency for normal functioning.

The surface voices and halluicinations are nonsensical and even offensive for the most part. the Buddhist term monkey mind is the perfect description. So the first layer of the Tulpa would be related to the monkey mind would be an extremely obnoxious creature.  If you look at Tibetian mandalas you see the layers of the circle and so it is with thoughtforms. THe superficial layer is a very shallow unintelligent creature with almost no power.  At a deeper level the entity is capable of quite a few things and becomes more capable of affecting physical as the ability to develop it increases.   

[darksidessj25]

The psychological label is modern but the buddhists believe the entity stems from the psych. The traditional western thoughtforms are considered separate but created by the mind.
I do think that Schitzoform mental illness are related to this.  I think that largely the thoughtforms take on shape and the person can see or hear them.  What they tend to see and hear certainly resemble shadows and if you know the patient well you can see the relationship to their fears and psychological issues.

In dissociative disorders it's internalized into multiple personalities posession syndrome, dissociation can be a characteristic of something like schiztophrenia or acute delirium

The process of learning to control a psychic ability may offer some help to people who are involuntarily exposed to the astral and cannot handle it well.  The main issue I think is sleep deprivation that the condition causes. THe activity in the astral is continuous and it can inturrupt your sleep. ( I had trouble at first til I learned to control the clairaudience)  If the sleep deprivation can be overcome with the medications then control could be learned instead of depending on antipsychotics or a reduced dependency for normal functioning.

The surface voices and halluicinations are nonsensical and even offensive for the most part. the Buddhist term monkey mind is the perfect description. So the first layer of the Tulpa would be related to the monkey mind would be an extremely obnoxious creature.  If you look at Tibetian mandalas you see the layers of the circle and so it is with thoughtforms. THe superficial layer is a very shallow unintelligent creature with almost no power.  At a deeper level the entity is capable of quite a few things and becomes more capable of affecting physical as the ability to develop it increases.   

Thanks for the information. I have clear audience as well. It only happens in the morning though. Kind of odd. I told my aunt I was hearing voices then she told my mom and my mom thought I was going crazy lol. I just said I was just joking.