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Zecora

So as I was out and about with a friend in the RTZ, I noticed a non-physical entity in the vicinity, I wasn't sure what it's purpose was, but after scanning it, we decided since I have the most experience, I'd make contact, whilist my friend would go back to his body and ground me. So I watched him fly back, he didn't touch my hand when he slipped in, but I wasn't worried, as he was so much more aware than I had ever seen prior(normally he sleep APs).

So I wait for the entity to come by, it looked similar to that No-face in the movie Spirited away, except it was more hunchback-y and literally had no face.  It didn't communicate in pictures, nor words, or any of the standard methods normally encountered.  I decided to try and link up or make a connection with it.  As I did so, it formed a face, male, pointy bangs, no eyeballs, it seemed to be trying, but I felt a spark of fear, I was merging with it, it was a large emotional entity, but at a rate faster than I could control.  It communicated with emotions, not my thing, and it was so fast, high frequency, I started to feel a panic, so I yelled to my SO to ground me, he didn't budge.  I yell, louder and louder, no effect.  He was so out.  I was rather ticked as I didn't want to full merge(I have a big fear of it), so I split my consciousness into my body and try and move my finger to touch his body.  But when I did so I had sleep catalpsy, I'm feeling more and more fear, try and force my finger to just move enough to ground but not wake up entirely, but FAIL.  I did move, but woke up my body.  I slammed right in, jumped up, yelling at SO nonetheless who was still asleep.  I try and go back out, but just couldn't manage.

I'm pretty frustrated with myself right now.  This is a perpetual problem, which I feel hinders my progress, and certainly cool experiences.

Whenever I meet a higher frequency entity, I feel like I'm going to die, the vibrations can be rather intense, but I know from prior experiences, that relaxing helps, but I tend to resonate with fear instead or resist which complicates the pattern.  It feels like I am dissolving into the other entity, I've heard people digging that whole bliss-merge-into-one-with-universe-stuff, but everytime I have a chance I panic, unless it's a more mental based entity, in which it's all good, with none of that bliss stuff. :roll:  I'm not sure how to describe it in other terms, but electrically speaking, the grounding works the same as it would for household wires, if that helps. :-P

I'd like to transcend all of my fears, but atm this seems to be a real impedance.  Any tips?  I figure working out the fear would be the best option, but struggle with as too how?  Is there a way I can ground myself internally whilist traveling(rather than depend on say....my SO's energy field)? 
I'm tired of this hostile environment, and aggressive, dogmatic moderation.  I'm taking my 40+years of OBE experience to a forum, where those who can and do project at will can further explore without the imposed limitations spurred from ignorance. Peace.

Fusions

Quote from: Zecora on September 27, 2014, 10:07:50
So as I was out and about with a friend in the RTZ, I noticed a non-physical entity in the vicinity, I wasn't sure what it's purpose was, but after scanning it, we decided since I have the most experience, I'd make contact, whilist my friend would go back to his body and ground me. So I watched him fly back, he didn't touch my hand when he slipped in, but I wasn't worried, as he was so much more aware than I had ever seen prior(normally he sleep APs).

So I wait for the entity to come by, it looked similar to that No-face in the movie Spirited away, except it was more hunchback-y and literally had no face.  It didn't communicate in pictures, nor words, or any of the standard methods normally encountered.  I decided to try and link up or make a connection with it.  As I did so, it formed a face, male, pointy bangs, no eyeballs, it seemed to be trying, but I felt a spark of fear, I was merging with it, it was a large emotional entity, but at a rate faster than I could control.  It communicated with emotions, not my thing, and it was so fast, high frequency, I started to feel a panic, so I yelled to my SO to ground me, he didn't budge.  I yell, louder and louder, no effect.  He was so out.  I was rather ticked as I didn't want to full merge(I have a big fear of it), so I split my consciousness into my body and try and move my finger to touch his body.  But when I did so I had sleep catalpsy, I'm feeling more and more fear, try and force my finger to just move enough to ground but not wake up entirely, but FAIL.  I did move, but woke up my body.  I slammed right in, jumped up, yelling at SO nonetheless who was still asleep.  I try and go back out, but just couldn't manage.

I'm pretty frustrated with myself right now.  This is a perpetual problem, which I feel hinders my progress, and certainly cool experiences.

Whenever I meet a higher frequency entity, I feel like I'm going to die, the vibrations can be rather intense, but I know from prior experiences, that relaxing helps, but I tend to resonate with fear instead or resist which complicates the pattern.  It feels like I am dissolving into the other entity, I've heard people digging that whole bliss-merge-into-one-with-universe-stuff, but everytime I have a chance I panic, unless it's a more mental based entity, in which it's all good, with none of that bliss stuff. :roll:  I'm not sure how to describe it in other terms, but electrically speaking, the grounding works the same as it would for household wires, if that helps. :-P

I'd like to transcend all of my fears, but atm this seems to be a real impedance.  Any tips?  I figure working out the fear would be the best option, but struggle with as too how?  Is there a way I can ground myself internally whilist traveling(rather than depend on say....my SO's energy field)? 
This is what I don't understand about the whole AP/LDing thing.

Everytime I have dreams, sometimes lucid sometimes not, sometimes vivid/somewhat realistic and sometimes very weird and confusing (what mostly happens) they look nothing like experiences in 'the real time zone', they (afterwards) always feel and look like dreams.

Now in these 2/3 years that this has interested me, I never had one experience that felt like I was in the world so to speak with my spirit. I have left my body consciously, felt myself being pulled out and all, but I always end up in a not realistic dream environment.
And now you come here saying casually that you were in the RTZ with a friend and all.

So could you please describe your experience in a detailed way, how you and your friend leave the body, how you perceive your surroundings, how you perceive eachother and if you talk with eachother after the experience, thank you.


Now as for you problem, idk what to say because you already know your an infinite spirit, that in the unknown there is only more of yourself etc.

Though I can recommend meditation and staying as the awareness for reducing any anxiety, also don't forget that these experience too shall pass ;)

And you also don't have to be in a hurry because you have an infinite amount of time

The One is ALL. And the All are One.

Bluefirephoenix

What that probably is . is a shadow generated by your own mind. When the shadowforms loose energy they return to their origin .. that is you. It's a normal thing. You have some part that your afraid of and won't accept.  Your seeing your mind working when you project. The shadow cannot merge with you unless you open to it. It cannot do it against your will... and neither can any other being.  The fear your probably dealing with is fear of possession or fear of loosing your identity. In fact that fear may even be what that shadow form is.  All thoughts become as living things on the astral plane. The RTZ is also a shadow form and that belief is based on Fred  Aadama's work plus what I know from experience.  Work with accepting the fear and the entity will disappear.

Zecora

QuoteAnd now you come here saying casually that you were in the RTZ with a friend and all.
Is it the casual aspect which bothers you so, or that I mentioned another, or perhaps both?

QuoteNow in these 2/3 years that this has interested me, I never had one experience that felt like I was in the world so to speak with my spirit.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say.  I've experienced a lot, from my perspective over the course of time, but know that what I have is but a miniscule fraction of what the possibilities could be.  I'll do my best to answer your questions, but I don't like typing novels, mostly though, I'm not sure how much of my experiences I'm willing to disclose just yet, due to how I don't see a benefit in arguing perspectives, or inadvertently triggering someone....so I'll skim the surface for now. 

how you and your friend leave the body I practice a few techniques, friend does the Robert Monroe techniques(not sure what that is though).  I do a couple as to cover my bases.  It begins with the day, where I work to bring mindfulness to each moment, or awareness of my actions as I work; this is so when I dream I'll more likely realize it and jump out of the dream to an obe or whatever.  Then I meditate prior to going to bed.  As I fall to sleep I do the mind-awake(focusing in, listening in stuff), body asleep thing, when the vibrations get strong enough, I'll work on wiggling out or if I get bored with that, go deep within where I can work on inner stuff easier.

How you perceive your surroundingsDo you mean how I see?  Like I do in this world, but can choose to operate from either the astral body, which is similar to the physical body, or another body which is more like a point of conciousness. So sometimes I use my astral eyes, which are a facsimile to physical eyes, but prefer to use my mind's eye which is more 360* or laser-like depends on focus.

How you perceive eachother I perceive him as himself, but lighter(less dense), if I scan him, it's very much an energy-like body but with a tether to the physical body.  So I can trace him back to his body, sometimes I may see a silver cord coming out of him.  As to him, he describes me as more dream-like, perhaps foggy.

If you talk with eachother after the experienceYes, it's fun to compare notes.

QuoteYou have some part that your afraid of and won't accept.  Your seeing your mind working when you project. The shadow cannot merge with you unless you open to it. It cannot do it against your will... and neither can any other being.  The fear your probably dealing with is fear of possession or fear of loosing your identity. In fact that fear may even be what that shadow form is.  All thoughts become as living things on the astral plane. The RTZ is also a shadow form and that belief is based on Fred  Aadama's work plus what I know from experience.  Work with accepting the fear and the entity will disappear.
Awesome, thanks.  Yeah, my friend and I were discussing if it was a shadow aspect.  I like how you brought up the shadow aspect, I definitely that part of fear or nonacceptance as that is what literally happened.  I can see how the fear may even manifest itself as a shadow form, it's happened before, but usually I have an easy time communicating with it, at which point it would tell me, hey, I'm your shadow aspect, let's merge.  :-P  Guess this is a really big fear though, I need to button down and work this out. Thank you, gave me some great pointers.

Thank you Fusions and Bluefirephoenix, practical advice is just what I needed.
I'm tired of this hostile environment, and aggressive, dogmatic moderation.  I'm taking my 40+years of OBE experience to a forum, where those who can and do project at will can further explore without the imposed limitations spurred from ignorance. Peace.